WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #11

[wenwe4]

No Halloween pictures . . . . no 2nd birthday pictures . . . the picture of Sky eating in the sink has what appears to be a little pumpkin behind him or an orange?

Where were this little boy's extended family members and friends celebrating his big 2 with cake all over his face and opening presents? Did he get cars and trucks and trains and blocks and stereotypical "boy" toys? The only toys I recognized (from having 2 girls and no boys) were all of the pink dollhouses, strollers, vacuum, baby dolls, etc. I didn't see any recognizable "boy toys", although I am not saying that is a bad thing . . . just where was the focus on what Sky might have wanted/loved? No focus on what Sky might be thinking or wanting or saying when (if) he is talking? I know nothing about little Sky except how SM described him. I know more about MM due to the multitude of pictures. I wouldn't know Sky from any other kid in the world from what he likes, what his favorite things are, what words he says . . . etc. Is there any video of this little guy? I want to see his little spirit because I am not getting quality information from the people who should love him the most (ie: Mom). Dad said he was "little dude" and going to be a "football player" and he wasn't small he was a big kid. Other than that . . . I have no idea who this little "dude" is.

 

[GingerRed]

While I believe that all the photos we've seen are of Sky I however have felt for quite some time now that Sky was long gone before the mediation.. I even believe it's very likely to have been before 10/23.. This is not sourced as a family or friend but rather just someone who lives in the same apt complex that they recall seeing Sky on 10/23(anyone guess on why that specific date).. My thoughts were even further confirmed with Julia's latest upload of pix on 11/17 as if trying to prove she has recent pix of him.. Still tho we see no pix past summer 2011.. There is nothing whatsoever marking Solomon's 2nd birthday in September 2011, but we clearly have MM's most recent 4th birthday party documented.. This to me has me really fearing Sky has been gone quite a while..

I would really like to know when is the last time grandma and brother, Shelby, or Grandma Sue last saw Sky?? I feel that date will be much closer to when Sky actually disappeared..

Tonite when SM voiced his concerns over this same thought I've had for quite some time I had to say something myself.. Moo..moo..

Yep.

I wonder if LE has shared with SM that they cannot confirm that Sky has been seen for months. Perhaps he's been so upset, he thinks he saw M in that photo (likely the blurry media version), confirming what he's already been told. I can't imagine he's slept much, eaten much, I'm sure he's worn out. This kind of stress is going to fry a person.

 

[Madilu]

I am not familiar with the direction of the hospital she was supposedly heading to . . . wasn't it overlake or something like that?

Watershed park is quite a ways from her apartment . . . so I would assume she would have driven there. I am not sure she had a car when she was seen in the survellience stills . . . maybe she didn't get her brother's car until the weekend?

I was curious today about why she was headed South on 112th on the way to the hospital. I couldn't figure out how or why she was on that side, but since the interchange looks so funky there, I Googled directions from her apt. to Overlake Medical Center AND from her apt. to where the car was found. When you compare the two photos, it is a 90 degree wrong turn -left vs. right onto 108th Avenue. I looked at street view to see if there where blue Hospital "H" signs, and saw none for the exit, or at the end of the ramp. The area she SHOULD HAVE passed through (Norfolk Way) seems kind of industrial and would have been empty on a Sunday morning, so I was wondering if a dump site might have been behind the Bright Horizons Family Solutions campus, or the State Board Community College. Check out all that wooded area to the left of those buildings? Also, when on street view in front of the Bright Horizons, you can see a bunch of big dumpsters at the edge of the woods. Wonder if they have surveillance cams there?

I hesitate to mention this, but what the heck...thought I would throw it out there. I was thinking that if one is going to lie, and to tell a story, then it's easiest to keep as close to the story as possible, especially if cameras catch you anywhere you did not say you were. If she took that exit (108th NE) off of 520, then she could have turned right, dumped, then double backed, crossed 520 and landed on the other side. Then if they found him, then it is close enough to where she says she "lost" him, so she could back peddle and say, "I told you so." Just a thought here.

 

[GingerRed]

No Halloween pictures . . . . no 2nd birthday pictures . . . the picture of Sky eating in the sink has what appears to be a little pumpkin behind him or an orange?

Where were this little boy's extended family members and friends celebrating his big 2 with cake all over his face and opening presents? Did he get cars and trucks and trains and blocks and stereotypical "boy" toys? The only toys I recognized (from having 2 girls and no boys) were all of the pink dollhouses, strollers, vacuum, baby dolls, etc. I didn't see any recognizable "boy toys", although I am not saying that is a bad thing . . . just where was the focus on what Sky might have wanted/loved? No focus on what Sky might be thinking or wanting or saying when (if) he is talking? I know nothing about little Sky except how SM described him. I know more about MM due to the multitude of pictures. I wouldn't know Sky from any other kid in the world from what he likes, what his favorite things are, what words he says . . . etc. Is there any video of this little guy? I want to see his little spirit because I am not getting quality information from the people who should love him the most (ie: Mom). Dad said he was "little dude" and going to be a "football player" and he wasn't small he was a big kid. Other than that . . . I have no idea who this little "dude" is.

This is SO SPOT ON.

You have articulated so well why the photos have bugged me since the beginning. It isn't just the count that feature M more prominently, it is that you can see she is a girly girl whose mother thinks she's pretty, and then, there's just Sky here and there occasionally. We have seen her toys...multitudes of them, right to the toy vacuum. Where is Sky's stuff?!?!

I recall one photo of Sky where he was holding building blocks...a "unisex toy". Was this boy allowed any identity of his own? (I'm not saying M was allowed an identity outside of her mother's constructs either--it just might not be so obvious).

Honestly, the only real demonstration of personality and identity that comes strongly and clearly from those photos are the two children together. They loved each other. Needed each other. Likely slept together. There was that bond.

And now, they don't even have each other. Makes me want to bawl.

 

[Miziree]

The picture of Julia where she's at the counter that looked as tho she was looking at map(Miztery confirmed for us that it was the counter of the Chevron).. In that pic Julia's hair doesn't have dark roots, it had already been colored.. Also even in going with Julia having colored as late as 11/4 as reported when she went to the salon that is still PRE-disappearance(11/6).. Therefor her roots were already done on 11/6 kidnapping..

I still cling to my belief that LE's main goal for releasing screen caps was a direct msg to Julia but also to show that in weeks prior to Sky's disappearance(11/6) that this represents whT Julia looked like at that time seeing if it jogged memories of locals having seen her anywhere in those weeks leading up to 11/6 due to LE believing the events of grave importance(disposing of Sky) took place during the time in which Julia looked as she did in the latest screen caps released.. Make sense??

All in all I'm betting on them being closer to 10/23 when she disposed of Sky(while Julia still had dark roots).. and that Julia had already had her hair touched up blondeing the roots prior to the mediation of 11/1..

I totally forgot about that post. Ugg. This is really not looking good.

True, i said earlier in another post that if I seen the flickr/facebook photos and really saw the women we seen on the new photo's I would have dismissed her , they are totally different. Glamour model to well what I look like everyday (hahaha) I am a mom :crazy:

You made a good point about her not showing up looking like that at the mediation..Totally makes sense..

Also the no photo's for his birthday, no halloween photos really is strange and would fit into what you are saying.

The day Sky went missing I was reading this on the news and my 9 year old came into the room. I showed her the picture (kids look at kids) and read the very first paragraph...Sky missing from unlocked car mom left him and took 4 year old sister. She said "first of all..why would a mom leave one kid and not take the other..second..why didn't she lock the car? *shakes head* then she said "I hope this don't turn into another Casey Anthony" and walked away.. I'm like thinking "oh not even my kid compares Casey Anthony to other missing kids now"..How true her words are becoming...just how long has he been missing?

This is so very hard for me not to get in my car and start searching woods, seriously! MOO

 

[Marah]

Can anyone link the beginning reports/videos of when he went missing? Are there any with Julia in it or speaking in them? TIA!

 

[RabidBadger]

So why don't they just come right out and say it? Something like this is the last image of Sky's mom on the day Sky was kidnapped. If anyone remembers seeing her or Sky please call the tipline or something like that. Not directly pointing the finger at her but make it sound like she's a victim of a child kidnapping.

I don't get the mind games by LE. Yes they may be trying to get at her BUT there is still a little boy missing and these cryptic messages are very confusing for those who may want to try to help.

If that's what she looked like on Nov. 6th. say so. If that's the way she looked like 5 months ago, say so. They know when the surveillance photos were taken. If they don't tell people what day it was, how does that help with locating Sky?

:maddening:

Because they know their audience is not just people wanting to help. It is also people looking to cover up their crime. LE usually has a very good reason not to divulge details that you and I would like to know. They need to protect their case, the evidence, and ensure their findings hold up in court. Releasing info to the public can be counterproductive to these goals.

Remember, everything we see and hear, JB and potential accomplices also have access to. Place yourself in LE's position. Then place yourself in JB's position. Then you will understand why they can't be specific.

 

[RabidBadger]

Can anyone link the beginning reports/videos of when he went missing? Are there any with Julia in it or speaking in them? TIA!

There aren't any. She never spoke publicly, ever.

 

[GingerRed]

Can anyone link the beginning reports/videos of when he went missing? Are there any with Julia in it or speaking in them? TIA!

No, she didn't speak to the media, ever.


ETA Jinx RabidBadger!

 

[wenwe4]

Can anyone link the beginning reports/videos of when he went missing? Are there any with Julia in it or speaking in them? TIA!

I have never seen any with Julia. . . . I would love to!

 

[hambirg]

I am now more curious than ever to know the date of the surveillance screen caps.. I am almost thinking that they are waaaaaaaaaaay PRE-mediation(11/1).. That there more like 10/23 or even before!! I'm having a feeling that may be the case here thus even more of a direct msg to Julia from LE saying that they've not only retraced and verified her movements for the week before Sky disappeared but to say, "Hey look Julia we went all the way back to the day we know you disappeared him!"..

Other confirmation of this is that I believe with all my heart that Julia would have never attended that mediation with those dark azz trashy roots!! Never in a million years!! That's why I do not believe that when she went to the salon on 11/4 was when she got her root touch up.. If you'll recall it's reported that on 11/4 Julia just got a haircut!! I believe that!! Because I believe her root touch up was prior to 11/1 the day of the mediation.. Thus making the surveillance screen caps that much farther back dated!!!

I believe this definitely is possible and I believe it makes the msg from LE to Julia with releasing photos that much more direct in letting her know we've got you on tape from weeks before Sky "disappeared"(11/6) and possibly even on the very day Sky actually disappeared(waaaaay prior to 11/6)

One thing I promise you is this.. There is no way he!! That Julia went to that mediation with this dark azz roots as has been speculated.. She wouldn't!! And in putting that thought together with the report actually stating it was just a haircut on 11/4.. It makes evident the surveillance pics are from further back than we originally thought..

I believe that Sky went missing possibly before the 9/5 massive upload on flicker.

There is a pic of M and Sky in their car seats. It says the photo was taken 9/4, but it was taken in 2/6 along with the other photos of them out and about on 2/6. In the 9/4 photo Sky has a hat on and both kids have blankets on them. It was still warm here in early Sept. Nobody would have hats and blankets on their kids in a car then!!!!! Nobody is that stupid, Julia! Do you here me?

One more thing. . .the June 15 photos. . .I'm not convinced of those date stamps AT ALL. We are to believe that all the Costco, stroller, haircut and friend's house are the same day. I don't believe they are. M's outfit is different. Her hair style is different. Sky's shoes are different. He looks younger in some of the pics than in others.

So I went to find out something about her camera and lo and behold, you can change the date stamp of a previously set date and time!!! Page 12 of the user's manual:

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/3/0300000993/01/PSSD770IS_IXUS85IS_CUG_EN.pdf

Where is Sky???!!! :furious:

 

[GingerRed]

Because they know their audience is not just people wanting to help. It is also people looking to cover up their crime. LE usually has a very good reason not to divulge details that you and I would like to know. They need to protect their case, the evidence, and ensure their findings hold up in court. Releasing info to the public can be counterproductive to these goals.

Remember, everything we see and hear, JB and potential accomplices also have access to. Place yourself in LE's position. Then place yourself in JB's position. Then you will understand why they can't be specific.

Agreed.

 

[wenwe4]

Please don't let this be another "I haven't seen my child in 31 days" scenario!

 

[Miziree]

This is SO SPOT ON.

You have articulated so well why the photos have bugged me since the beginning. It isn't just the count that feature M more prominently, it is that you can see she is a girly girl whose mother thinks she's pretty, and then, there's just Sky here and there occasionally. We have seen her toys...multitudes of them, right to the toy vacuum. Where is Sky's stuff?!?!

I recall one photo of Sky where he was holding building blocks...a "unisex toy". Was this boy allowed any identity of his own? (I'm not saying M was allowed an identity outside of her mother's constructs either--it just might not be so obvious).

Honestly, the only real demonstration of personality and identity that comes strongly and clearly from those photos are the two children together. They loved each other. Needed each other. Likely slept together. There was that bond.

And now, they don't even have each other. Makes me want to bawl.

I too would like to know more about him.

My first kid was a boy 2 1/2 years later I had a girl. These pictures of Sky and his sister remind me so much of my kids when they were young. They too were close and still are, they are 16 and 13 now. My son would bring her toys, nap with her, get her drink ect. He just adored her. I see that in M and Sky and it too breaks my heart. Will they ever be able to be together again and how is this going to effect little M. It hurts to know what all they might be missing thinking back of how my kids grew up together.

I had a tons of toys for my son and my daughter played with those. I also made sure to have "girly" stuff for her to play with and over the years her toys grew to as much as his. It is odd there are very few toys for Sky, the only one I really saw that was a boy toy was the ball.
MOO

 

[RabidBadger]

Please don't let this be another "I haven't seen my child in 31 days" scenario!

No this is a "I left my child in the car while I wandered for hours and magically he was kidnapped and I expect you to believe my BS because I am the centre of the universe and everyone always buys my BS. Exhibit A: I got custody of my kids despite being a danger to them. If the courts believe me, why won't you?"

 

[Madilu]

No problem! Here you go: http://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=Ve...gIdHpa3-CHWElfUzuzJ5Q&vpsrc=0&mra=ls&t=m&z=13

I will edit my original post as well.

Great map. Thanks. I had taken a different approach earlier, and googled directions to Overlake which would have taken her down 520 to the 108th NE exit - I have pics of what I mapped out, and tried to upload it, then figured out that I can't upload a pic from my hard drive....?

 

[~n/t~]

Because they know their audience is not just people wanting to help. It is also people looking to cover up their crime. LE usually has a very good reason not to divulge details that you and I would like to know. They need to protect their case, the evidence, and ensure their findings hold up in court. Releasing info to the public can be counterproductive to these goals.

Remember, everything we see and hear, JB and potential accomplices also have access to. Place yourself in LE's position. Then place yourself in JB's position. Then you will understand why they can't be specific.

Oh I get that but they're taking the risk anyway by divulging these photos. Do you think the people covering up the crime would not take this as a threat? I think if there is a slight chance Sky is alive, releasing photos of mom and announcing that's the way she looks and not what's being circulated in the media may throw her/ them over the edge. Showing where she was, etc etc.

I'm still iffy about how this investigation is being handled. I know what they're trying to do but like I said, a little boy is still missing and dates of when he was last seen or information leading up to the day is just as important for the public to know.

I think the most important thing right now is finding Sky. They can get Julia or whoever is responsible later, imo.

It's obviously not working. She's doing her thing and is more concerned about her blog postings and flickr pictures.

Are they playing cat and mouse on national television? :waitasec:

 

[RabidBadger]

Oh I get that but they're taking the risk anyway by divulging these photos. Do you think the people covering up the crime would not take this as a threat? I think if there is a slight chance Sky is alive, releasing photos of mom and announcing that's the way she looks and not what's being circulated in the media may throw her/ them over the edge. Showing where she was, etc etc.

I'm still iffy about how this investigation is being handled. I know what they're trying to do but like I said, a little boy is still missing and dates of when he was last seen or information leading up to the day is just as important for the public to know.

I think the most important thing right now is finding Sky. They can get Julia or whoever is responsible later, imo.

It's obviously not working. She's doing her thing and is more concerned about her blog postings and flickr pictures.

Are they playing cat and mouse on national television? :waitasec:

It makes perfect sense if you consider they might know he is dead, therefore there is no risk to Sky. Then they know if they set Julia off she will make mistakes. Strategy. Maj Johnson says this word at every PC. They have a reason for everything they say and release.

Plus bear in mind, help from the public, like you and I, is not always beneficial. Imagine all the sleuths trampling evidence and tipping off JB unintentionally. Like we could be doing right now, talking about the case on a PUBLIC forum.

 

[Miziree]

It makes perfect sense if you consider they might know he is dead, therefore there is no risk to Sky. Then they know if they set Julia off she will make mistakes. Strategy. Maj Johnson says this word at every PC. They have a reason for everything they say and release.

Plus bear in mind, help from the public, like you and I, is not always beneficial. Imagine all the sleuths trampling evidence and tipping off JB unintentionally. Like we could be doing right now, talking about the case on a PUBLIC forum.

That is what keeps me from going out into the woods

 

[RabidBadger]

That is what keeps me from going out into the woods :innocent:

:blowkiss: