WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - # 8

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  • #241
I wonder if SM still has to pay her child support? One child is in the care of CPS and one has been missing for 10 days.

Boy, if I were him, I would be trying to amend the child support and spousal support orders in a flash.

In my experience, Washington State per policy, as soon as a child is placed into foster care by CPS, they notify the State child support enforcement office to direct payments to the State as the Foster Parent will be paid directly from the State. Children in kinship care also are entitled to the child support payments as well. JM will also be responsible for at least a minimum of $25 per month in child support (if all of the proper procedures are followed) even if she has no verifiable income . . . as children needs still continue despite parents not having a job.

The money must follow the child . . . it is to meet the child needs not the parents needs. If child support is the only source of income that JB has, she could soon be homeless from her apartment. She currrently has no children in her care and therefore would not be entitled to income from child support. If the child will be returning to the home within 30 days, the State may waive the child support payment and allow the parent to keep it to assist in having the child return to the home.

I highly doubt MM will be returning to her Mother's home anytime soon, but the State should have a responsiblity to ensure SM has supervised or therapeutic visits with his daughter. MM needs to have access to a parent who is loving, nurturing, and helpful to regulate her emotions. I believe SM can do that quite well.

If the visits are going well with MM, they will titrate up the frequency and duration of the visits and eventually move toward non-therapeutic, non-supervised, in home visits. Finally, culminating in overnights with the parent and slow transition back to the parent's home.
 
  • #242
her facebook was recently changed...

also, LE will not comment at all on their social media investigation/emails, etc...

I think there is a lot we do not yet know about Julia.

MOO...

This woman is a complete flight risk imhoo... she has family in Canada and in Russia (per past linked media articles)... and another article said that SM had the stipulation put in place that the kids could not have passports or travel outside of the state because she would take off with them.

At the end of the presser today one reporter asked LE if they had people in Scottsdale, Arizona as the media had heard from SM that Julia told him she would drop her allegations if he let her go to Scottsdale.

LE didn't comment..

but who is in Scottsdale? I am glad they found her sugar baby profile for sure!!! She just may have an "Amber"...

:twocents:

Where is her Sugar baby profile?
 
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But they are not divorced yet. The hearing was supposed to be Monday Nov. 14th.

I know with my ex step "mother", she about broke her friggin neck rushing to change back to her maiden name as soon as my dad walked away from the house he had for 25+ years... she even updated her vehicle tags to show off her maiden name... she was also the one behind the divorce.
 
  • #245
Until she outed him. He continued to do stupid stuff even after that (that hair color had me ROFL).

ETA: I think we'll see more internet things as the days go by.

ETA #2: I can't imagine how she is handling her OCD right now. If the financial strains/loss of control were enough to exacerbate her symptoms in her own home, I can't imagine how she is doing now.

I think the crumbling of her "perfect" image is more distressing to her than anything related to OCD or her children. She can no longer be perceived in the manner she tried so hard to project. We have learned shes "crazy", neglectful, money hungry, prostituting, and may have killed her own child. Her image is her number one. The jig is up. It keeps her up at night. That why she is so exhausted, its not worry. Of course I do take comfort in thinking that anyway. I shouldn't take pleasure in someone elses pain but she deserves every bit of it. She is a monster.
 
  • #246
Have there been any organized searches by volunteers been done within a 3 mile radius of JB's home? Would TES come in or is that too far away from their home base? I know TES has to be invited in . . . but as each day passes I feel the outcome worsens.
 
  • #247
While perusing the net, I found an alternate spelling for Julia paired with Biryukova.....Yulia. Might be worth looking at.
 
  • #248
Is anyone here a member of the dating website Plenty of Fish? I wonder if she has a profile there.

I don't think she was interested in dating. At least not for free.
 
  • #249
I think the crumbling of her "perfect" image is more distressing to her than anything related to OCD or her children. She can no longer be perceived in the manner she tried so hard to project. We have learned shes "crazy", neglectful, money hungry, prostituting, and may have killed her own child. Her image is her number one. The jig is up. It keeps her up at night. That why she is so exhausted, its not worry. Of course I do take comfort in thinking that anyway. I shouldn't take pleasure in someone elses pain but she deserves every bit of it. She is a monster.

I am not so sure it is her "image" of being perfect as being number one. What I mean is . . . I don't think that how "other people" view her is her primary motivation. I think her OCD totally revolves around her ability to control her own environment. Her idea of "perfect" is not necessarily other's idea of "perfect". Sounds as if she was dust/dirt/food phobic if those substances entered her home . . . but to look perfect to others would not include not allowing others to use the bathroom, not offering food to guests, not allowing people into her home, being somewhat isolating and staying in for hours/days/weeks.

I just think that it needs to be "perfect" for her . . . but not "perfect" for others.

(whereas in a really bad comparison IMO "martha stewart" considers whatever is perfect for her must be perfect for all others ).
 
  • #250
I don't think she was interested in dating. At least not for free.

Maybe if he were rich enough...or could have been a starting point to get some guys lined up "just in case."
 
  • #251
Don't his children serve as "anchors"?

Having a child does not automatically secure residency or citizenship for a person here illegally or legally. It is a long process to secure citizenship and to maintain residency. Kids can be a small factor but the biggest factors are gainful employment, ability to support oneself, etc.

Also, there is nothing to suggest Solomon was ever here illegally, or that he does not now have citizenship. My feeling is he was brought here as a kid on his parents' work visas, (he went to high school here) then had to get a green card himself and may have had problems with that which were lessened when he married Julia. I'm betting he has citizenship at this point.


I'm a feminist but I find this emasculating to men. It bothers me a lot. They are not women and should not be forced to pee like one. Everyone should just be taught to clean up after themselves.

So now we know why he stayed with this very strange woman despite the conditions that he says that he was forced to live under by her. Truthfully though, given that he was raised in Pakistan and still a citizen there and considering the condition of women's rights in Pakistan and the way that females are still looked down on in that country I would think that it would be far more difficult for him to live under the conditions that he claims to have been living under than he is trying to make it sound.

I just think that we still don't have the whole story here. IMO there is a reason why Sky, the male child, the traditionally more valued child in Pakistan, is missing and the girl child is right where she is supposed to be.

It's very strange to me that she has said nothing at all in her own defense.

As far as the sugar baby thing goes they don't have proof that she is the one that set it up.

I wonder how LE found out about it, if it was on her PC and if anyone else had access to her PC. The hinky meter is off the charts here but some of it seems just way too obvious and maybe too convenient.

ETA: How do we know "everyone" had access to her PC. Looks like LE found this by examining her e-mail trail and hard drive. It's her photos on there, sounds like her if you compare it to her few FB posts and why would anyone else take the time to do something like that? Do you think Solomon broke into her house in June, when it was set up (and they were long separated) and created this profile for her? To make her look bad?

I think Sky is missing because he is Daddy's mini me. It's clear Julia hates Solomon. Having a little, perfect reminder of him was not good for Sky.

I don't think he stayed with her for citizenship. I think he stayed because he loved her and when she got ill, he hoped she would get better. Mostly, though, I think he stayed so he could be there to protect the kids.

And while it is true that girl children are not as valued in places like Pakistan, that is a generality that is not always reflected in each individual family or person.

From the audio and from pictures and Solomon's declaration, it appears he adored both of his kids. He loved M. Also, as a Christian Pakistani, his culture may be afar different than the larger, Muslim culture there when it comes to how girls are viewed.

But she lawyered up. I'm not sure what they expect her to do. Surely, they don't think she's going to run over there and answer questions and implicate herself.

This "taunting" can go on forever.

No, she'll be like Scotty Peterson. Drive around, get on the computer, call friends and family, and she'll slip up. MOO

I try to imagine the intricate process of such an investigation. We all want answers and movement now. But I gather it takes a long time and careful analysis, maneuvering, etc. And I have no doubt they have FBI profilers advising them on how to increase the stress on Julia and possibly get her to slip up, or agree to divulge something to them or, on how to make her feel more comfortable about talking with them and cooperating so they can get more info.

I would just not pay her. What's she going to do at this point - request a contempt hearing? Good luck with that.

True, but she can always go back in time and request support arrears and interest so it's better if he tried to modify spousal support now and halt child support for Sky. Support for M should be going to CPS. You can't get a retroactive modification of support unless the other party agrees and having seen the result of people not trying to modify support as soon as possible, I take every opportunity to let people know they need to seek a modification if something changes!
 
  • #252
Is anyone here a member of the dating website Plenty of Fish? I wonder if she has a profile there.

IRC from my internet dating days, PoF frowned on paid dates. I'm pretty sure PoF would have referred her to Craigslist or an "arrangement" seeking site. Same with Match, eHarmony, Cupid etc.

She may have a profile on AFF or CollarMe or Alt.com. They allow that kind of "date for money" advertising.
 
  • #253
I was out for a few hours today and didn't record the presser, do we have a link by chance? TIA
 
  • #254
He won't disclose what they have found on social media sites. He won't talk about specifics of the social media sites.

How can all theories still be on teh table after 10 days? It comes back to evidence. They have sufficient resources. The evidence hasn't directly pointed in one specific way.

Key accomplishments from days 1-10. He will answer that later; wants to protect the integrity of the investigation.

Haven't processed all 1100 tips. Those processed haven't been really helpful in the investigation.

How long has it been since talked to Julia? Initially, it was couple of hours with an attorney on the 6th. Since then have reached out to her attorney but to no avail.


Hi - frequent lurker (much) less frequent poster. I've been following this case from the outset and this, to me, is unbelievable. They haven't had any contact with JB, even through her attorney, for over a week. WHAT?!

Is it possible that she has had a complete breakdown and is secretly hospitalized somewhere. I'm assuming the police would know that, of course, and it seems like the only possible reason that they would go so long without talking to her.
 
  • #255
her facebook was recently changed...

also, LE will not comment at all on their social media investigation/emails, etc...

I think there is a lot we do not yet know about Julia.

MOO...

This woman is a complete flight risk imhoo... she has family in Canada and in Russia (per past linked media articles)... and another article said that SM had the stipulation put in place that the kids could not have passports or travel outside of the state because she would take off with them.

At the end of the presser today one reporter asked LE if they had people in Scottsdale, Arizona as the media had heard from SM that Julia told him she would drop her allegations if he let her go to Scottsdale.

LE didn't comment..

but who is in Scottsdale? I am glad they found her sugar baby profile for sure!!! She just may have an "Amber"...

:twocents:



IIRC I saw a sugar daddy being listed as residing in Scottsdale.
 
  • #256
Even most anti-anxiety/anti-depression drugs take at least 2 weeks to achieve the full effect. I could be wrong, but doesn't OCD require behavioral therapy too?

Cognitive and behavioral therapies are the primary form of treatment for OCD -- even OCD as extreme as it sounds JB's was/is. There are medications that can help reduce the underlying anxiety that fuels OCD compulsions and obsessions but, to my knowledge, there's no easy 'fix' via medication for this disorder. I can tell you from experience that cognitive and behavioral techniques (and sometimes you only use one or use one more than the other -- it's two separate approaches that can be intertwined) work really well for OCD. Some medications can take up to a month or even longer to take effect.
 
  • #257
ETA: How do we know "everyone" had access to her PC.

My question was actually, "does anyone else have access to her PC".


Looks like LE found this by examining her e-mail trail and hard drive. It's her photos on there, sounds like her if you compare it to her few FB posts and why would anyone else take the time to do something like that?

Her pictures are easily available to anyone on the web as we have all seen.

Do you think Solomon broke into her house in June, when it was set up (and they were long separated) and created this profile for her? To make her look bad?

From what we know right now there is nothing that says that the account was created by her or that it was even created from her PC. She may have, he may have. Either is a possibility from what we know at this time.


I don't think he stayed with her for citizenship. I think he stayed because he loved her and when she got ill, he hoped she would get better. Mostly, though, I think he stayed so he could be there to protect the kids.

And while it is true that girl children are not as valued in places like Pakistan, that is a generality that is not always reflected in each individual family or person.

From the audio and from pictures and Solomon's declaration, it appears he adored both of his kids. He loved M. Also, as a Christian Pakistani, his culture may be afar different than the larger, Muslim culture there when it comes to how girls are viewed.

Could be that all that you say here is correct. I'm saying that there are other possibilities and that we really don't know much at all. People can be extremely cruel in divorce cases. People can be very cruel in marriages as well and people can learn buttons and enjoy pushing buttons. If what Solomon says is true about Julia then something very clearly broke her. Right now all that we can do is speculate and one possibility is that he knew the right buttons and pushed those buttons. People can be very cold and calculating as well all know here.

I like to look at the both sides and many times as I see people push one side other possibilities come to me. I have personally known some very manipulative people who were very good at hiding their manipulation and their abuse.

One thing that I do know without a doubt right now is that all we have is Solomon's side of the story and I find that very strange.
 
  • #258
Okie-Dokey. After all this psychological profiling, I'm going with:

Personality Disorder -- very self-focused, history of fabrications, vindictive, obsessed with self-image, interested only in her own gain

OCD -- remember, OCD is an anxiety disorder and that it can be nonsensical to outside observers. I don't think the fact that she may have slept with anyone (and how that can be "dirty") has anything to do with her OCD. If anything, I think it speaks more to a PD.

Bipolar/Depression -- I think these were misdiagnosed and are actually OCD/PD behaviors and symptoms. People with PD's are famous for "tricking" clinicians into making an incorrect diagnosis.

I believe JB left both children unattended during the epic mediation session and I think she had frequently left the children unsupervised for long periods of time and believed it would be okay this time too. I think she came home to find Sky deceased (and I go with this theory as opposed to a psychotic break because I believe her story about leaving Sky unattended in the car matches up with what probably actually happened -- that she left him unattended at home. When people lie, there's often a grain of truth hidden somewhere in there and I think the abandonment theme may just be that grain of truth). Sad to say, I'm guessing she may have covered up the crime by using a local body of water, which is why they have not been able to find him. I don't think Sky was ever in the car when she abandoned it and I think she may have been hoping someone would steal the car so she'd have a possible scapegoat.

I do think with her increased stress levels from the mediation as well as possibly coming home to find Sky deceased, her cognitive abilities were compromised, which is why she told such a tall tale that was easily disproven about a kidnapping. I also think the motivation for trying to squash the new custody arrangement is because she knew she couldn't produce Sky. This theory also explains why M. is still around but Sky is not.

It's all speculation, but those are my two cents!
 
  • #259
Okie-Dokey. After all this psychological profiling, I'm going with:

Personality Disorder -- very self-focused, history of fabrications, vindictive, obsessed with self-image, interested only in her own gain

OCD -- remember, OCD is an anxiety disorder and that it can be nonsensical to outside observers. I don't think the fact that she may have slept with anyone (and how that can be "dirty") has anything to do with her OCD. If anything, I think it speaks more to a PD.

Bipolar/Depression -- I think these were misdiagnosed and are actually OCD/PD behaviors and symptoms. People with PD's are famous for "tricking" clinicians into making an incorrect diagnosis.

I believe JB left both children unattended during the epic mediation session and I think she had frequently left the children unsupervised for long periods of time and believed it would be okay this time too. I think she came home to find Sky deceased (and I go with this theory as opposed to a psychotic break because I believe her story about leaving Sky unattended in the car matches up with what probably actually happened -- that she left him unattended at home. When people lie, there's often a grain of truth hidden somewhere in there and I think the abandonment theme may just be that grain of truth). Sad to say, I'm guessing she may have covered up the crime by using a local body of water, which is why they have not been able to find him. I don't think Sky was ever in the car when she abandoned it and I think she may have been hoping someone would steal the car so she'd have a possible scapegoat.

I do think with her increased stress levels from the mediation as well as possibly coming home to find Sky deceased, her cognitive abilities were compromised, which is why she told such a tall tale that was easily disproven about a kidnapping. I also think the motivation for trying to squash the new custody arrangement is because she knew she couldn't produce Sky. This theory also explains why M. is still around but Sky is not.

It's all speculation, but those are my two cents!

I agree with all you have gleaned from this case in regard to her mental health issues. I think the behaviors may be more indicative of "borderline" tendencies . . . a sort of black and white thinking . . . either you are with me or you are against me. No grey areas and very manipulative to meet her own needs. I am just guessing here . . . but this sort of rings true with that sort of that "I hate you . . . don't leave me" sort of mentality. I surmise that when JB feels like her cup isn't filled she will make sure to fill her empty space with whatever her need is . . . but picking up on and appropriately meeting her chidrens needs and cues are too overwhelming for her.
 
  • #260
Even most anti-anxiety/anti-depression drugs take at least 2 weeks to achieve the full effect. I could be wrong, but doesn't OCD require behavioral therapy too?
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I don't post here much, but i have a unique insight into this case as I have very bad OCD. I have pondered whether or not to post this as its personal, but might give you an idea of how the OCD mind works. If you need to verify this then to the mods: please feel free to contact me. I'd also like to point out this post is not designed to offer medical advice to anyone, as one man's sugar is another man's poison. Finally I'd like to point out that at no point did i worry about posting this because its a mental health issue. I am happy to share this as I believe if someone de-mystifies mental health problems by talking about them then the world is a better place for everyone : ). When we hide it, we give it power over us and stop others seeing what is going on, thus stopping them from helping us and us from helping them. This too is ironic, as OCD is often known as *the secret disorder* because we hide it so well.

My OCD is *contamination* and *magical thought* based (magical thoughts mean my brain makes me perform rituals to cancel out bad luck or to keep things good, such as turning a light switch off and on 8 times before its *ok* and I find certain things which i know are not dirty, but i *feel* they are, which combined with magical thinking means everything takes forever). The worse it has been left me unable to leave my home except for once a week when i *had* to go out, for two years (i called it *my bubble* and nothing got into it without being cleaned, and if it couldn't be cleaned then it didn't come in). At one point (after i'd started trying to recover instead of letting it control me, which i did for many years) i ended up with my nephew, who was 2, coming to live with me. It was incredibly difficult. He'd be bathed the moment he came into the house, he had *inside and outside* clothing. At 3 he started attending the local nursery and every day he came back he got washed, and my husband had to drive him to the group as if i left the house i *had* to have a shower and *decontaminate* the house upon return. I did my best to hide it from him (making bath times fun and trying not to freak out if he touched something that made me want to scream out loud but I couldn't because i would never let him see me like that). The fear of this child (who i love like a son) was my only control over it for a long time, then i realised that he was picking up some of my *habits* so I had to fight with all my might to show him that the world was not a dirty place (not easy when your brain is telling you it is over and over again). I believe part of OCD is genetic (I have *deduced* that I have several family members who have it in differing severitys), so I didn't want to *plant any seeds* for future suffering for him. I know other *mothers* who have used their children as the reason to *fight back*, but it takes a lot of strength and some simply can't do it at that time.

So i went back to the doctor. they gave me several medications to try. it took 3 years to find one that worked. Meds don't take it away even when they work. Its always there at the back of my mind, and almost everyone I have ever talked to who have been lucky enough to get help with their OCD to the stage where they can cope have told me the same. Its like a shadow: The more you look at it the more you notice it and it can engulf you, but it can fade. You can be given pills to calm a panic attack down, but it just calms the heart and not the mind. The best way to do that is a combination of medication and therapy. The medication issue is quite complicated too:

Every brain is different. One med might work for one person but not suit/adapt/be accepted my another. One therapy might work for one person and not for another. The first medication they gave me had a huge effect on my blood pressure (as it worked on the same part of the brain that regulates blood pressure) and despite the fact it left me having dizzy spells, fainting spells and sudden blood-pressure drops as well as feeling terribly ill. I still took this drug for 3 months, just on the hope it would work. it can take at least 3-6 weeks (sometimes longer) for some of these meds to *build up* in your system enough to be effective. i tried 4 different meds (for a few months at least each). I was also having therapy at the same time (one session twice a month).

I have had times when I have been *triggered* into having a massive negative reaction. I was once so bad that when i thought i'd become *contaminated* by some food i ate I tried to gargle with bleach (if my husband was not here it would have been a lot worse, as I only ended up with slight burns rather than possibl dead). Whilst these things are happening I know deep in my heart and my mind somewhere that its irrational, that it is not a normal reaction, but to control it is the hardest thing in the world at that moment. Your mind simply betrays you and you feel powerless to stop it. you can see the pain in others eyes as they watch you/try to help, but you feel you can't stop. I wish i could find a better way to put it into words, but I fail every time I'm afraid.

I (and i know this sound strange) got *lucky* in my treatment, in that it was decided for me by fate. One day we were visiting a city about 160 miles aways and I became *contaminated*. This led to my husband having to drag me through a mall in one of our buggest cities whilst i was alternately hyper-ventilating and trying not to scream (and failing). We got into out car and i had a full blown panic attack (OCD often causes huge panic attacks, and a lot of the rituals and pandering to it that you do is in an effort to *stave* those off). We got stuck 160 miles from home in the worst moment there could be, and on the way out of there to get home as quickly as we could we got stuck in a huge traffic jam for an hour and a half. That hour and a half changed my life. It allwoed the panic attack to go full circle, i didn't calm myelf dlwn, i just *burnt out*. Then i realised that the world was still here, the people i love were still here and the panic subsided. i was shattered, but i realised i didn't *have* to do these things. I had been exposed to the worse thing that could (in my mind) happen, it happened and i was still there. From that base i worked to raise my confidence in my ability to interact with the outside world. I could touch things i wouldn't have dared to like money or bread from a bakery or simply open a door without it reducing me to tears (to be honest after this revelation i went a bit mad with power and did things like going to a supermarket and lightly bumping into people, as i had really feared contact with people i didn''t know, and even those i did). 6 months later i found a med that worked, and now i have my life back. Now, i'm not suggesting this as treatment to anyone, as if you did this to someone without their complicity then you could scar them for life, but this worked for me. But it never goes away. I find I'm always 10 thoughts ahead of everyone (which often shows up in my spelling as my brain is trying to spell the next word before its finished the one its writing), and i have a level of paranoia that is much more heightened than in those around me. The urges to follow rituals are still there, i just have to not give them power.

What i am trying to say is, i know what its like to have ocd and a small child/children around: so here are my thoughts:

Having OCD and a child around makes the OCD *thoughts* worse. It doubles/triples the *work* you feel you need to do. I was lucky that my love of this child actually helped me. It was if i had to watch every move i made plus every move the child made, and had to perform the OCD rituals and thought patterns for us both. This meant i was tired all the time.

I can see a situation where she could hurt her child because of OCD if she had what i called *a meltdown* (it took her over so completely that she did something and hurt him, ironically in what could have been a bid to save him from hurt).

I have some friends who have OCD and some have it completely effect their spouses/children (who are often forced to follow their rituals too). Some of these are the best parents i know, but i can't explain how i managed to, through the love of one special child, fight it, but not everyone can do this (but most of them do try more than anyone will ever know).

As far as her *putting it on*, from everything i have heard from the husband and her *friends* she shoulds like someone who has been dealing with it for a long time. It never goes away like i said, but fighing it takes up a huge abount of the finite amount of energy we have for such things, so sometimes if an external stressor come to the fore it can cause the OCD to get worse/makes it harder to fight (a bit like a car, it only has so much fuel, and I'm aware of how sad it is that this is the best way to describe it so i aplogise if that offends anyone). She has had a lot of these recently according to all i have read. I can imagine as a fellow dirt avoider that moving house so often them losing the house you thought was forever must have been terribly traumatic (we moved once 7 years ago and it took me a year to recover and i nearly had to be hospitalised).

I have to wonder this: Is the reason she isn't helping because she's had a *meltdown* to the degree that she can't help anyone? Whether she has anything to do with it or not, she is likely (as an OCD effected person would) blaming herself (unless she is a sociopath, but I don't think she is). Could something else have triggered a massive panic attack that he bore the brunt of? I imagine that whilst in the heat of a huge meltdown a small scared chaild might push you to the stage where you just *break*?

Now I want to clarify one thing for you: I am not making any judgements here because its too *close to home*, i am simply stating what i think as an OCD effected person and factoring in the fact that i know her brain works in a different way to most others (as mine does), a way thats hard to understand for someone without this disorder. I just wanted to shed a little light for all the non-ocd'ers out there. I also point out that this is all in my (and i might add well-thought-out) opinion. I actually don't think enough is being done about the OCD angle, as i think this is the crux of the case. I also want to add that I am not suggesting that OCD'ers are violent or dangerous, but if those who live with it are honest it does cause us to think and sometimes do some pretty odd things that at the time we feel we have no control over in a way that can be hard for anyone else to understand. In fact the ocd'ers i've met have been some of thenicest most kind people I've ever met.

I finally want to share one last thing with you: OCD is on the autism spectrum, and autism spectrum disorders such as aprergers have been described as *being like a shotgun wound to the brain*. Every shot is similar in what it does, but the pellets can land anywhere, effecting differnt parts of the brains in everyone. everyone with an autism spectrum disorder may have similar symptoms but it can be hugely different from one person to the next. It also means that it has a lot of co-morbid (illnesses that exist along side other illnesses) conditions (such as I am bi-polar also). She could have many smaller co-morbid conditions that could be having an effect on what is going on. This is why i thin they should be looking into the OCD angle. I understand why they seem to be dancing around it/avoiding it but as someone who has lived it i know it could be a huge factor.

again, in my opinion, and apologies for any grammer or spelling issues. I'd finally like to point out that this case is simply breaking my heart. When i see the father my heart hurts for him, as he is going through the most unimaginable pain, plus he has loved someone with OCD which is one of the hardest things to do. I do hope with all my heart that this boy is found safe. but like i said the heart and the brain are two different things, and my brain is telling me otherwise (in a way i can listen to nd believe).

blessings to you all.
 
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