WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - # 9

[Coldpizza]

As far as the mothers interview up thread http://www.thenewtakhoman.com/111411.html
It really tied things together for me as far as JB is concerned. What a cultural conflict to begin with and add the mothers disdain for men its a scary recipe for disaster IMO. For JB and her brother to be subjected into a completely different culture at their ages only to be abandoned by their father (in the mothers words) then influenced by her complete venom of him it helps me understand some of the behavior here. It's weird, on the news this AM they were featuring a Co. that cleans up after hoarders and the mental disabilities that go with. I thought really its the complete opposite in most minds of OCD but it made me wonder if it's not the same, just on the other side of the spectrum?

 

[jash]

Tuesday, Nov 1: Marathon Mediation
Thursday, Nov 3: JB notifies her attorney she wants to back out of the custody agreement.
Friday, Nov 4: JB's attorney notifies SM's attorney JB wanted to back out of the mediation agreement.
Sunday, Nov 6: Sky is reported missing.

hth

I assume JB didn't take the kids out for Halloween (as no one had seen Sky for two weeks prior to his going missing). Is it odd for a mother to not take her 4 year old out trick-or-treating?

 

[Twelve of One]

Whoever is commenting to Julia on some of the newer photos rocks.

I know what you mean because I agree with the comment she's leaving, but I don't really think it's a good idea for outsiders to engage her or get her riled up. We don't know what her mental state is right now and all I see is that LE is handling her very gently, so I think it's not wise to interfere and poke sticks at her. If LE thought that would help they'd do it themselves. Also, she'll end up switching it to private if people start doing that. It's not hard to switch it to private, but you need to look around a little bit for the instructions. She might get motivated to do that if people start bugging her.

 

[katydid23]

BBM.

My apologies if it looks as though I'm trying to vilify the father. My heart goes out to him, and I have no doubt that he loves his children. And as difficult as it is to do, it's taking a great deal of courage on his part to do what he's doing now, such as going on national television and admitting your wife would not allow you to use the toilet for one, now that would be a hard one .

Unfortunately, for some reason that is not totally clear, he allowed this wife of his, JB, to completely run roughshod over him and their children to the point of beyond abuse, physically in not feeding and caring for their children, and emotionally toward him and the children. She would not allow him to use the toilet. She refused to have food in the house and feed the children. She refused to let him sleep in the bedroom because it was the "perfect place"?

So what would have happened if he had said, "Are you kidding me? This is my house, my bed, my children, and this is what we're going to do. I'm going to sleep in my own bed, I'm going to use my own toilet, I'm going to have food in my own refrigerator, and I'm going to feed my children, Julia. And if you can't handle it, you can get out." JMO

As parents, we do anything that is required to protect our children.
And if it came down to it and required me to "kidnap" my babies to keep them safe, I would do it in a heartbeat. Again, JMO

In his defense, what you say he should have done might have been IMPOSSIBLE. She seems to be Batzhitt Krazy. If a man defied her, and said too bad, I am going to go use the bathroom, when he came out, he was likely to find cops at the door, after receiving a 911 call from her. She would likely have punched herself or cut herself, just to have a reason for them to take him in. That is how crazy wives gain control of their homes, imo. I have seen it happen myself to a very sweet man who wanted the best for his kids. He never had a chance.

 

[bendrn]

We are allowed to post links to the flickr account, right?

If not, MODS, please correct me and I will delete this posting.

The photo of the marina was taken in September 2011, but posted today. It is the only picture she has posted that I've seen that is not of a person, and it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

Any locals recognize this marina? If I'm correct, that is Mt. Ranier in the background, isn't it?

3729513803_fea386b7bf

Sorry to keep going on about this marina, but it sure sets off alarm bells in my mind.

 

[Twelve of One]

I assume JB didn't take the kids out for Halloween (as no one had seen Sky for two weeks prior to his going missing). Is it odd for a mother to not take her 4 year old out trick-or-treating?

Some Christians don't do trick-or-treating. There are no Halloween pictures for any of the years, so maybe it's not something they did.

 

[pdxmama]

RSBM

I think he likely WAS very shocked. Yes, he was complicit with Julia in the Target incident, but I think he truly learned his lesson through his punishment. IMO he was probably extremely surprised that Julia did not learn the same lesson and continued the behavior. After all, he has not been privy to the family's actions for the last 10 months or so...

Yup, if I were in his shoes I would be shocked and horrified to find out my estranged spouse had left our 2 year old alone in a stalled car from where he subsequently disappeared. :twocents:

Yep, you're right, he even said as much. He said that he was surprised that she had done it again after they both got caught doing it at Target and he felt it was a terrible decision that he made and had learned his lesson. (Not an exact quote.)

 

[Cubby]

If people start commenting she'll set them to private......

Or she'll use the 'everybody is against me' like she did when she pulled out of the mediated agreement with her childrens father.

jmo

 

[neesaki]

In his defense, what you say he should have done might have been IMPOSSIBLE. She seems to be Batzhitt Krazy. If a man defied her, and said too bad, I am going to go use the bathroom, when he came out, he was likely to find cops at the door, after receiving a 911 call from her. She would likely have punched herself or cut herself, just to have a reason for them to take him in. That is how crazy wives gain control of their homes, imo. I have seen it happen myself to a very sweet man who wanted the best for his kids. He never had a chance.

BBM. Good point. So for me, I guess that's when the kidnapping would come in.:twocents:

Batzhitt Krazy.... Hmmm, I Love it! So much it's going in my 'new word of the day' list. :floorlaugh:

 

[pdxmama]

Hmmm. If LE has a warrant for flickr, then the IP address Julia uploaded from is on flickr's servers. So if they weren't sure about where she is staying, they could be now.

Conversely, in a brilliant ruse, someone else could be uploading the photos to throw them off.

I'm hoping the first possibility plays out.

I'm also hoping that the IP address matches the one used to set up the profile on the "dating" site.

 

[Magdalyn]

I'm trying to figure out how Solomon can be stealthily abusive, controlling and/or manipulative, while at the same time not having a spine, not wearing the pants, and not man enough to run his own house and stand up for himself... :waitasec:

Either way, it looks like there will be plenty of people happy to blame Solomon for Sky's being missing/dead even if it was at Sky's mother's hands.

I'm gonna take a break. :seeya:

 

[Patty G]

We are allowed to post links to the flickr account, right?

If not, MODS, please correct me and I will delete this posting.

The photo of the marina was taken in September 2011, but posted today. It is the only picture she has posted that I've seen that is not of a person, and it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

Any locals recognize this marina? If I'm correct, that is Mt. Ranier in the background, isn't it?

3729513803_fea386b7bf

Sorry to keep going on about this marina, but it sure sets off alarm bells in my mind.

If this is the photo with the extension of "photos/metalwala/3729513803" it shows that photo being taken on July 3, 2009 using a Canon PowerShot SD770 IS. It may have been uploaded in September 2011.

 

[pdxmama]

We are allowed to post links to the flickr account, right?

If not, MODS, please correct me and I will delete this posting.

The photo of the marina was taken in September 2011, but posted today. It is the only picture she has posted that I've seen that is not of a person, and it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

Any locals recognize this marina? If I'm correct, that is Mt. Ranier in the background, isn't it?

3729513803_fea386b7bf

Sorry to keep going on about this marina, but it sure sets off alarm bells in my mind.

We can link to the account but can't post the actual pictures on the forum.

 

[Patty G]

If people start commenting she'll set them to private......

I thought the same thing and WE don't want that to happen.

 

[sunflowerchick]

BBM.

So what would have happened if he had said, "Are you kidding me? This is my house, my bed, my children, and this is what we're going to do. I'm going to sleep in my own bed, I'm going to use my own toilet, I'm going to have food in my own refrigerator, and I'm going to feed my children, Julia. And if you can't handle it, you can get out." JMO

As parents, we do anything that is required to protect our children.
And if it came down to it and required me to "kidnap" my babies to keep them safe, I would do it in a heartbeat. Again, JMO

*Respectfully snipped by me and respectfully disagree.

I don't know if it would be that simple. I think there was an emotional abuse also taking place by Julia. She may have threatened harm to herself or to the children. She also may have been very volatile, even violent if he did something that upset her "balance". Having had a friend in a situation with someone with a personality disorder, I can tell you stepping up to them or leaving is the hardest thing you will ever do.

 

[OneLove]

Thank you! I think that is part of what's bugging me about him. Perhaps if he would've "manned" up, this may not have happened. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but I'm tired of him accusing her of all this abuse on national television and the poor me/feel sorry for me when he should've protected those kids with his life.

Do whatever it takes. If it means calling the cops every night....so be it.

Respectfully, what some people fail to understand is that police can do nothing until a crime is committed.

Calling the police because your mentally unstable wife wants you and the kids to sleep on the floor would do....what exactly? Calling the police because your wife will not feed the kids and insists on you leaving work to come feed them will do.....what exactly? And so on and so on and so on.

Soloman was doing everything he was allowed to do within the limits of the law, and beyond. He was getting his wife medical help, help I'm sure they weren't in a great position to afford, but he did it because it was the right thing to do for his wife AND for his kids. When the kids fell into the unfortunate abyss of the "system", he followed it's dictates as required by law. In the meantime, he nearly killed himself trying to take care of them ALL, hoping that medical care would bring things back into the fold of sanity.

Had Soloman INSTEAD decided to "man up" as you say, as in break the law, I'm sure we all right now would be reading about this case from the perspective of his being a monster and violator of the worst degree.

I've lived this scenario personally and helped my son in every way possible to survive his year in hell. I gave up the life I was living and moved to live near them to help protect the life of my granddaughter in her first year.

It is very discouraging to see people criticize Soloman when he did everything he COULD do.

The police will not do anything until a law has already been broken. CPS will not do anything until a child has already been abused. It's a terrible situation.

 

[GingerRed]

We are allowed to post links to the flickr account, right?

If not, MODS, please correct me and I will delete this posting.

The photo of the marina was taken in September 2011, but posted today. It is the only picture she has posted that I've seen that is not of a person, and it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

Any locals recognize this marina? If I'm correct, that is Mt. Ranier in the background, isn't it?

3729513803_fea386b7bf

Sorry to keep going on about this marina, but it sure sets off alarm bells in my mind.

I'm checking it out now. The photo is pointing SE.

 

[MaryAnn]

Yes many of these uploads are new, but some are repeats.

What is her message, here? She is clearly trying to communicate something.

And if I were LE, I would be at that marina she posted a picture of ASAP with dogs and divers.

MOO.

If you look at pic 5368982600_cce6717543 of Sky in his bedroom on the floor both the mattress and box spring are leaning against the wall which seems strange to me and a bit dangerous. If they tip over they could crush and smother a 2 year old. Julia's house is not baby proof at all. This is consisten with Solomon's explanation of how she didn't let them sleep in their beds at the end. They all had to sleep on the floor so they wouldn't dirty up the beds. Unreal.

 

[Cubby]

I assume JB didn't take the kids out for Halloween (as no one had seen Sky for two weeks prior to his going missing). Is it odd for a mother to not take her 4 year old out trick-or-treating?

Some Christian churches do not believe in celebrating Halloween. I've considered JB may have belonged to a church with those beliefs. Though, I have always seen some kind of party or alternate activity provided by churches which don't believe in celebrating traditional Halloween.

So yes, imo, it is odd it doesn't appear she took them out for some type of activity on Halloween whether she celebrates with trick or treating or another way.

jmo

 

[Cubby]

I know what you mean because I agree with the comment she's leaving, but I don't really think it's a good idea for outsiders to engage her or get her riled up. We don't know what her mental state is right now and all I see is that LE is handling her very gently, so I think it's not wise to interfere and poke sticks at her. If LE thought that would help they'd do it themselves. Also, she'll end up switching it to private if people start doing that. It's not hard to switch it to private, but you need to look around a little bit for the instructions. She might get motivated to do that if people start bugging her.

IMO it would be a GOOD thing if she set the photo's to private. It would demonstrate some self restraint on her compulsions and protect her children. she could always set it up with a password for her friends and family to view.

I honestly can't think of one good reason to leave them public other than as a means to taunt her STBX.

JMO