Resolved WA - Thurston Co, Nisqually Reservation, WhtFem UP12017, 30-60, light-pigmented skin, Nov'13 - namus removed

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Maureen Kelly left a campsite on a spiritual quest in June of this year & was never heard from again.

Campsite is 130-140 miles away http://goo.gl/maps/kygRF

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/20715
NamUs has both DNA & dentals.
Her NamUs profile has no picture, but this picture is from the thread we have for her - WA - Maureen Kelly, 19, spiritual quest in Skamania Co., 10 June 2013

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Wow, I live and work very close to here. Yelm Hwy (510) is the main road near where the search was conducted. I would characterize it as a very busy two-lane road. Just south of the smaller road (Church Kalama Dr/Peter Kalama Dr) is part of the network of dirt roads associated with the military reservation. Most are not gated, and anyone could pull off on one of these roads and end up within the search area. So the victim may be someone local, from a nearby town for example, but maybe not super-local (i.e., not from the Nisqually Reservation) because all those dirt roads are well known by a lot of people in the area. I wonder if this UID is someone who has not been reported missing.
 
Wondering if the body was cut in small pieces because the perp. could not carry larger ones and had to travel a great distance to dump them, or to make it easier for animals to scatter?
Also thinking about the small pieces of tattooed skin found in Stirling Heights sewers ...
MI MI - Macomb Co. WhtFem (UP10563 & 11130), Body Parts In Sewer, Aug/Dec'12 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today...-on-nisqually-reservation-cut-up-by-a-person/
BBm.

“They were actually cut instead of being pulled apart by animals. There were numerous points that have been cut,” said Detective Sgt. Ray Brady of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office.

“We have reason to believe they were dumped and then animals scattered them over several hundred yards. There is a fairly large pack of coyotes there."
 
Okay, this doesn't directly relate to the remains, but just an idea of odd things in this area...

I lived in Lacey, WA last summer. In September of 2012 I was out on a drive by the Red Wind Casino on the Nisqually Reservation. I was taking pictures and saw a pretty area where I decided to pull over. Before I knew it there was a tribal policeman behind me with his lights on. He came and pulled up next to me and asked what I was doing. I told him I thought it was a pretty area and that I just wanted to relax and enjoy the scenery. He was actually really nice and ended up explaining to me, "Okay, we've just been questioning people back in this area, because we've been having problems with people digging up the graves back here." I couldn't believe it!! He let me go and ended the conversation by suggesting that I come back and visit the tribal museum sometime.

Also, off of Yelm Highway on another day last summer I pulled over and saw this (hoping the picture displays). It's a deer that was dumped with the skin cut off in weird patterns (not chewed by animals). Nothing too creepy, obviously just a hunter who didn't want the deer, but this was right at the entrance to one of the dirt roads marked as Fort Lewis (now JBLM) property and says not to enter, but people do it all the time to dump things in these areas.

ETA: Obviously the picture didn't display, but it was nothing exciting.
 
goldiegirl said:
Okay, this doesn't directly relate to the remains, but just an idea of odd things in this area...

I lived in Lacey, WA last summer. In September of 2012 I was out on a drive by the Red Wind Casino on the Nisqually Reservation. I was taking pictures and saw a pretty area where I decided to pull over. Before I knew it there was a tribal policeman behind me with his lights on. He came and pulled up next to me and asked what I was doing. I told him I thought it was a pretty area and that I just wanted to relax and enjoy the scenery. He was actually really nice and ended up explaining to me, "Okay, we've just been questioning people back in this area, because we've been having problems with people digging up the graves back here." I couldn't believe it!! He let me go and ended the conversation by suggesting that I come back and visit the tribal museum sometime.

Also, off of Yelm Highway on another day last summer I pulled over and saw this (hoping the picture displays). It's a deer that was dumped with the skin cut off in weird patterns (not chewed by animals). Nothing too creepy, obviously just a hunter who didn't want the deer, but this was right at the entrance to one of the dirt roads marked as Fort Lewis (now JBLM) property and says not to enter, but people do it all the time to dump things in these areas.

ETA: Obviously the picture didn't display, but it was nothing exciting.
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Digging up graves?! That's very disturbing and interesting. Thanks Goldiegirl for this information.
 
2 things I get from this case so far.

The remains do not belong to someone who got lost and succumbed to hypothermia, a fall, or animal attack,etc.
They do not belong to someone who died and was buried prior and an animal dug them up. Now ritual is a possibility.

Neither would be possible because this victim was dismembered by human means.

I would like to point out that Israel Keyes MO sometimes included dismemberment and he was apprehended in March in Texas. He claimed to have killed 4 women in Washington State. This could be one of his victims.
 
Wow, no known missing women match! I wonder if this comparison only included women in that area or all over the country? It's always disturbing to me when a "doe" is found, because I can't believe that no one notices that someone is missing. So it must be either someone from another area, or if this comparison was comprehensive then someone homeless who others wouldn't notice as missing.

And yes, I couldn't believe the digging up graves. I looked it up as soon as I got home but never found anything about it. I got the impression that they were tribal graves, so I'm assuming there's a graveyard right near the baseball field by the casino where I got stopped. It may be one of those old "Indian graveyards" rather than a modern cemetery, but he didn't clarify. Either way yes, disturbing.
 
I am also surprised there was no match yet. This area has certainly had its share of disappearances and disturbing crimes, but this one still stands out. If the UID was someone from out of the area or a transient, answers could take quite a while...
 
This is so creepy! Honestly, I hope they can ID her and bring her killer to justice. What is wrong with people?!
 
Scary ....
And looking at the maps so many just vanished.......

If there was tissue what about DNA ......?
 
MicciStella said:
Scary ....
And looking at the maps so many just vanished.......

If there was tissue what about DNA ......?
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It's interesting for me to see this discussion, because I grew up in that area. In Mason County, actually, but went to college in Lacey from 2005-2009, right where this happened, and moved back for a while last yr. My degree was in criminal justice, and I've always been a follower of missing persons cases, but I never thought of it as a dangerous area or thought we even had that many missing people. I always felt safe there, safer than in other parts of the country where I've since lived. It's just interesting to see different perspectives on this from people who aren't from the area. I look at statistics from some other parts of the country and think that I wouldn't want to go there, but locals defend the areas and say they are safe. Now I'm that person. Kind of funny what you DON'T notice when it's right under your nose.
 
Thank you for this thread. I live locally, and have been stymied by the amount of petite brown haired females who have disappeared in the last few years from this area. Thank you for the missing persons map..
 
dotr said:
Thanks for posting! Who is this 30 to 60 year old woman and what, if any connection did she have with Nisqually?
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Unless they found two sets of partial female remains in Thurston county in November of 2013, this is Nisqually.
 
omg why? who would do that?

Soulmagent said:
I watched this on a news report this morning and I was really mad at this guy . Thankfully his wife had some cells working in her head.

I don't understand why he would just rebury . I was upset some news reporter didn't mention anything about how many people come up missing everyday and how many people miss them. That would have been the perfect time to present the issue .

I am really unsettled by this mans actions and have to hope he is the only person in the world to do this but somehow I doubt he would be the only one.

Actually I know of a company that found 2 bodies and rehid them and our Sheriffs office still hasn't went and tried to locate them. An employee turned them in but they had moved the bodies but the guy had picture proving they were there. It makes me so mad.
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goldiegirl said:
... always been a follower of missing persons cases, but I never thought of it as a dangerous area or thought we even had that many missing people. I always felt safe there, safer than in other parts of the country where I've since lived. It's just interesting to see different perspectives on this from people who aren't from the area. I look at statistics from some other parts of the country and think that I wouldn't want to go there, but locals defend the areas and say they are safe. Now I'm that person. Kind of funny what you DON'T notice when it's right under your nose.
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I've always kind of felt that way too, but not necessarily about "other parts of the country" like you said. I was raised, and currently live, in a tiny town (about 200 people) out in the country.

I always felt like things were more dangerous in "the city" rather than a specific area of the country.

But what you said made me think about that...

I lived in "the city" (actually Louisville or Lexington, so not HUGE ones) for close to a decade. I never had my house broken into, was never robbed or assaulted or anything like that while I was living in anything that qualifies as a city. That only happens where I am now. My tiny town with one caution-light, one mini-mart and the Post Office in a double-wide.

Yet I still "feel" safer here... I guess that is due to familiarity. But "crap" can happen anywhere at any time. We just tend to not make as big of a deal about it when it's local. Anything really bad that happens seems to happen "somewhere" else to "someone" else. But "crap" happens here, too.
 
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