Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police #3

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  • #121
From the DFPS (CPS) website: "With the judge’s permission DFPS moved about two dozen teenage boys to a facility outside the area. All the rest of the children are at the coliseum."

http://www.dfps.state.tx.us/About/News/2008/2008-04-14_news_pm.asp
Thanks! From that link there was this about the separation of the women who returned to the compound.

"Adult women with very young children were provided the opportunity to remain at the shelter at this time. The other women were given the choice to return to the Eldorado compound or to a safe place. While DFPS understands mothers want to be with their children, normal protocol is to separate children from their parents during investigations into abuse and neglect.

This decision was not made by CPS alone. DFPS sought counsel from the attorneys of the children, mental health professionals and others. The judge concurred that a partial separation is in the best interest of the children at this time.
 
  • #122
Why did they move the boys and why do I think the teenage boys are going to be the bigger story in the end? I'm scared!
 
  • #123
Why did they move the boys and why do I think the teenage boys are going to be the bigger story in the end? I'm scared!

That shocked me, and scared me too. There could me numerous reasons, many of which scare me too much to think about.
 
  • #124
Coming up. New details on what sparked the investigation in texas. The phone call. Details coming up that may shake up the case.


How did the fundamentalist branch of the latter day saints get the millions of dollars to build that posh child abuse resort??

Follow the money. There is more to this story than meets the eye.
 
  • #125
Why did they move the boys and why do I think the teenage boys are going to be the bigger story in the end? I'm scared!

And why are there only a couple of dozen of them?
 
  • #126
Why did they move the boys and why do I think the teenage boys are going to be the bigger story in the end? I'm scared!
maybe because teen girls have a value to these people. the value is as a sex slave but they do want the teen girls.

teen boys not only have no value but are a threat to the 50 year old perverts.

if you would rape a 13 year old girl what would you do to the 17yr old brother that tried to stand up to you?
 
  • #127
And why are there only a couple of dozen of them?

Do you think since the Eldorado compound folks were Jeff's "cream of the crop" that he chose to send a limited number of young boys, or do you think that there are already a number of "lost boys" wandering around somewhere, banished from the TX compound? It's only been 4 years since the Eldorado compound has been in existence.

Very scary thought, either way.
 
  • #128
maybe because teen girls have a value to these people. the value is as a sex slave but they do want the teen girls.

teen boys not only have no value but are a threat to the 50 year old perverts.

if you would rape a 13 year old girl what would you do to the 17yr old brother that tried to stand up to you?
That my friend is what scares me, those poor boys.
 
  • #129
Last night we discussed an article that appeared in the Deseret News in which women who were removed from the YFZ ranch and were at Fort Concho, did a telephone interview via cells phones with reporters who were at the YFZ ranch. In the article, the women went by first names, declining to state their surnames. I felt last night and still feel that the telephone interview was orchestrated by the FLDS men back at the YFZ ranch. Last night I posted a message, and here's part of that message:

I'm having some real reservations about this article. The women mentioned in the article, who gave their first names only, are Dorothy, Paula. Kathleen, and Barbara. I checked these first names against the listed names of parents on the subpoena published in the Eldorado Success. There is no Dorothy on that list. Of the other names, the only woman named Paula and Barbara are Paula and Barbara Jessop. There is a Kathleen Steed and a Cathleen Jessop.

Tonight, Anderson Cooper interviewed Kathleen, who didn't want her surname used. Later, Anderson Cooper interviewed Carylyn Jessop, who escaped from the FLDS five years ago. Carolyn recognized Katheen and identified her as a sister-wife of Merrill Jessop.

All of the women who participated in that cell phone interview from Fort Concho, were Jessops..............Paula, Barbara, and Cathleen/Kathleen Jessop. The Dorothy who also participated in the cell phone interview wasn't on the list of parents on the subpoena. I suspect she may have been one of the older woman - a grandmother - with no children at Fort Concho.
 
  • #130
And why are there only a couple of dozen of them?
When the raids occurred some of the male children could have been at one of the other places in AZ or Utah or at work in one of the FLDS owned businesses outside the compound. That might be why there were so few young men/boys removed.

I suspect they're being separated from the females for the same reason the older women were given a choice to go home or go to a shelter. The boys can be talked to without interference from some of those women. AND, the boys who might try to intimidate, scare etc.. some of the younger females won't be able to.

If these young males are all wishing to stay out of the compound they're going to need counseling and the investigators are going to have to be able to talk to them without them being intimidated.
 
  • #131
Kathleen's interview was one of the strangest I've ever seen. She never looked into the camera, and all of her answers seemed rehearsed, Cooper even called her on that. We are most likely going to see quite a few of these in the coming days, and I'll bet we learn nothing from them, just like tonight.
 
  • #132
Leila I think you are right about that!
 
  • #133
So if they can't locate the 16 year old from texas, and she is still being abused then i really beleive that she can be considered a federal witness, and colerado, and arizona, may be next, in trying to locate this poor child who is being shuffled away. Feds can search the other two compounds on those grounds, to locate the 16 year old! No other reason may be needed!
 
  • #134
How did the fundamentalist branch of the latter day saints get the millions of dollars to build that posh child abuse resort??

Follow the money. There is more to this story than meets the eye.


The kids were nothing but *sex toys* to these men.

Forget *food stamps*.

Where did these men get the Big Money???
 
  • #135
So if they can't locate the 16 year old from texas, and she is still being abused then i really beleive that she can be considered a federal witness, and colerado, and arizona, may be next, in trying to locate this poor child who is being shuffled away. Feds can search the other two compounds on those grounds, to locate the 16 year old! No other reason may be needed!
The FLDS has branches in Idaho, British Columbia, Canada, Nevada, AZ and Utah and Colorado as well as Mexico.
 
  • #136
The FLDS has branches in Idaho, British Columbia, Canada, Nevada, AZ and Utah as well as Mexico.


Well then IMO and from talking with another person who is familiar with this law. They can all be search/investigated/ on the grounds that this 16 year old is now a federal witness. and they need to ensure her safety.

A weapons room was found on the texas ranch with automatic guns and grenades!
 
  • #137
A weapons room? Oh my!
 
  • #138
The kids were nothing but *sex toys* to these men.

Forget *food stamps*.

Where did these men get the Big Money???
Some of their companies bid on govt. contracts and some of the families, I believe the Kingston family that's in the flds owns Waste Management? The salaries of the members is paid over to the head of the flds and they are expected to tithe on top of that.

The men have a legal wife and then all the others are considered single. They apply for welfare, wic etc. and it all gets turned over to guess who. The FLDS pulled all of their members who were teachers out of a school yet retained control over the board of the school. They siphoned money that went into the school into their own coffers. They were the only school that had a private jet to fly board members around.

Things like that are only the tip of the iceberg.
 
  • #139
Well then IMO and from talking with another person who is familiar with this law. They can all be search/investigated/ on the grounds that this 16 year old is now a federal witness. and they need to ensure her safety.

A weapons room was found on the texas ranch with automatic guns and grenades!
Wisan said there was rumored to be a weapons cache near Colorada City.

The FLDS members are trying to say that the reported 16 year old is nothing but a hoax since two locations received the same type of calls.
 
  • #140
Larry King has a reporter who went into the compound at Eldorado.

EDITED TO ADD: Journalist says that the women told them that no one there was ever forced into marriage. That it's rare for a 16 year old to get married. etc..
 
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