Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged With Murder In The First Degree #1

[Snoofo]

Yes .... but contracts were in the works .... some of those would be with established airlines as well as private individuals (with jet aircraft).

Tons of paperwork and exacting standards are required to be a certified repair operation ... potential clients would want to see all the qualifications and a tour of the facility itself .... these are sometimes multi-million dollar contracts.

Such a facility should exude the appearance of being clean , certified and professional

The last thing that should be in the building is an auto-wrecker ... or any hint of shady characters ....

Based on your post I would say the company would never get clients with DM at the helm after WM was gone. Not because i think he is as shady and useless as you all seem to think, but because he would probably lack the necessary experience that the clients would look for, in order to run it to these exacting standards you refer to. That he recognized this and ceased operations was a good move on his part IMO, rather than kidding himself and others. Or perhaps once WM committed suicide some potential clients pulled out because he was the one with the reputation in aviation, not DM. :moo:

 

[SnooperDuper]

Based on your post I would say the company would never get clients with DM at the helm after WM was gone. Not because i think he is as shady and useless as you all seem to think, but because he would probably lack the necessary experience that the clients would look for, in order to run it to these exacting standards you refer to. That he recognized this and ceased operations was a good move on his part IMO, rather than kidding himself and others. Or perhaps once WM committed suicide some potential clients pulled out because he was the one with the reputation in aviation, not DM. :moo:

Yes, e.g., it was WM that had the contacts at the airports and found the three guys to set up the MRO based on his connections.

DM didn't pursue an aviation career and I think that's because things are more competitive now: e.g., I think to be an Air Canada pilot now you have to have a bachelors AND a pilot's licence AND your hours of flight time on appropriate large planes, so a lot of hurdles...DM didn't finish high school, I read, and later went to community college not uni...so he was never really in the running for a professional career in aviation.

 

[Snoofo]

Yes, e.g., it was WM that had the contacts at the airports and found the three guys to set up the MRO based on his connections.

DM didn't pursue an aviation career and I think that's because things are more competitive now: e.g., I think to be an Air Canada pilot now you have to have a bachelors AND a pilot's licence AND your hours of flight time on appropriate large planes, so a lot of hurdles...DM didn't finish high school, I read, and later went to community college not uni...so he was never really in the running for a professional career in aviation.

Right so we cant blame him that he was not fit to run an MRO without his father. At least he was wise enough to know what he doesnt know in that respect.

 

[Blomquist]

Right so we cant blame him that he was not fit to run an MRO without his father. At least he was wise enough to know what he doesnt know in that respect.

Yes.... why stay in a business that you have no real interest in... Keeping it on for the 'nostalgia' would be pointless imo....

 

[Archangel7]

Based on your post I would say the company would never get clients with DM at the helm after WM was gone. Not because i think he is as shady and useless as you all seem to think, but because he would probably lack the necessary experience that the clients would look for, in order to run it to these exacting standards you refer to. That he recognized this and ceased operations was a good move on his part IMO, rather than kidding himself and others. Or perhaps once WM committed suicide some potential clients pulled out because he was the one with the reputation in aviation, not DM. :moo:

Gee, think he might could have spoken up way before now, like before millions were spent/wasted and he could shut it down decisively and cheaper much earlier?

Or was he begrudgingly against it from conception? Because it cramped his chop shop ops? Millions and millions to be had legally but nope, just a thief?

 

[Snoofo]

Perhaps he was trying to be supportive of his father during the inception and construction. This could have been just the thing that pulled WM out of a rut and made him excited again and not a good time for DM to be a negative nellie.

AB's article (the one in the Post) indicates DM was in charge of construction. If there was any intent for him to oversee operations of the MRO he would have had a position on the operations side, at least to work and learn alongside the experts.

 

[Blomquist]

Gee, think he might could have spoken up way before now, like before millions were spent/wasted and he could shut it down decisively and cheaper much earlier?

Or was he begrudgingly against it from conception? Because it cramped his chop shop ops? Millions and millions to be had legally but nope, just a thief?

Why would he have spoken up? When his dad was alive he was obviously concerned that his dad was lacking contracts and tried to help by approaching the guy that was supposed to getting them...AS.... DM obviously felt that AS was not working in a way to help his dad...and maybe once his dad died he felt overwhelmed and did not want to deal with so called professionals who can't keep their promises...JMO

Maybe he had become wise to how business was done these days and wanted no part of it... cant say I blame him. He appears to have inherited enough to start something new...... I think some people are often too humble hearted to be involved in the rat race that big business has now become. JMO

Maybe DM did not want to upset his dad by saying he wasn't really interested in aviation business..... maybe the new hangar that was for Dellen was supposed to be a thriving business for Dellens future (Dellens Project) but once the contracts weren't there it was a non starter.....so maybe DM felt it was not worth pursuing any further. It seems quite obvious to me....JMO....MOO

 

[Sillybilly]

"My grandson (Dellen) is not overly interested in the business but maybe that will change," Carl Millard said.

~Carl Millard (2005)

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

 

[Sillybilly]

Police sources also told Toronto’s CityNews that Wayne had announced shortly before his death that he was in love and engaged to be married. While Mr. Sharif said he knew nothing about his client’s romantic life, he acknowledged he was feeling business pressures and “had heard rumblings that … Wayne was drinking again.”[/I]

<rsbm>

This line caught my interest today:

from:
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...toronto_police_search_farm_for_third_day.html

McLane would not say whether Millard was home on Nov. 29, 2012, when police were called to the Etobicoke house he shared with his father.

Unknown police source about WM's gf, so we still don't know if she existed, but if she did, perhaps it was her who found WM and not DM who called 911.

If WM was in fact about to be married, that might have put a glitch into any anticipated inheritance DM believed he was entitled to.

 

[hopingforjustice]

~Carl Millard (2005)

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

And perhaps its 'cause he just plain and simple didn't want to "work" for a living..

It's easy to grow up privileged when someone else is doing all the work.

And I say that whether he is involved in this murder mess or not. He just strikes me as the kind of guy that wants to have fun and have someone else foot the bill for it.

JMO

 

[Blomquist]

And perhaps its 'cause he just plain and simple didn't want to "work" for a living..

It's easy to grow up privileged when someone else is doing all the work.

And I say that whether he is involved in this murder mess or not. He just strikes me as the kind of guy that wants to have fun and have someone else foot the bill for it.

JMO

I disagree....

Firstly DM was the one who took AS for dinner to discuss business and the lack of contracts. Apparently DM was looking out for his dad and the business, he was pointing out to AS that there was limited money that was for the MRO and that it needed the contracts that AS was supposed to have brought in but failed miserably in doing so.....MOO

Obviously DM was able to step up when needed and did it would seem. The fact that WM said it was Dellens Project indicates to me that Dellen was running some part of said project.

I think its easy to assume that just because someone comes from a monied background that they have no work ethic. I come from a business family and I was 'working ' from the age of 8 or 9 in some capacity....

I think you will find its commonplace for guys in their teens and twenties to want to have fun and it's hardly Dellens fault if his family had money which made it possibly a little easier to have fun than most !!!!! JMO

 

[swedie]

I disagree....

Firstly DM was the one who took AS for dinner to discuss business and the lack of contracts. Apparently DM was looking out for his dad and the business, he was pointing out to AS that there was limited money that was for the MRO and that it needed the contracts that AS was supposed to have brought in but failed miserably in doing so.....MOO

Obviously DM was able to step up when needed and did it would seem. The fact that WM said it was Dellens Projectindicates to me that Dellen was running some part of said project.

I think its easy to assume that just because someone comes from a monied background that they have no work ethic. I come from a business family and I was 'working ' from the age of 8 or 9 in some capacity....

I think you will find its commonplace for guys in their teens and twenties to want to have fun and it's hardly Dellens fault if his family had money which made it possibly a little easier to have fun than most !!!!! JMO

BBM I disagree and can you provide links?

DM was ready to throw in the towel before his father passed away. Both Carl and WM knew and stated DM was not interested in the business. DM only invited AS to dinner because he was interested in finding out what the business was worth. We've been over and around this oodles of times. AS explained no one was interested in finalizing contracts until they could tour the facility which DM refused to clean up. DM was more than willing to walk away so why would he care about talking business with AS; He was only interested in finding out how much the business was worth, which AS told him.To dismantle the business before things really got underway and plans came to fruition could mean getting back just 20 cents for every dollar invested. Too bad AS wasted his time and efforts on DM, someone who didn't give a hoot, just wanted to have the big garage to carry on illegal business in.

There was no lack of contracts; in fact a video I posted a few times stated there were huge contracts in WM's hand. DM just did not want to cooperate and clean up his playroom. Seems like he had many temper tantrums over this issue IMO.

When did DM step in when needed to do so? Throwing in the towel?! I guess you could call that stepping in seeming logical to someone who didn't care about the business. Why waste any more of his inheritance?!

The fact that WM said it was Dellen Project was because WM was hoping his son would finally grow up and become a man and run the business like it was meant to be run instead of some tinker toy room.

DM came from money and he knew it and took full advantage of it by not going out and getting a real job. One which may have included his post education interests. Instead he decided to remain on Millardair's payroll and live the good life riding dad's coat tails. When things got really tight with dad's money because dad invested it all in the new hangar, less for DM, DM thought he would start his own business with a buddy chop shopping, drugs and maybe an escort service on the side. ALL JMHO. And time will tell the facts. HTH.

He was just a spoilt little brat who had his way all his life and didn’t appreciate what his father was doing for him.” “He was an impediment to the hangar operation” who didn’t meet his deadlines, almost never arrived at work before noon, and refused to clear his collection of cars, jeeps, hot rods, jet skis and personal airplanes from the business premises.

“I went over all of the contracts that were in negotiations and the potential for 2013.

Less than two weeks later, 0n Nov. 29, 2012, Wayne Millard died, reportedly of a gunshot wound to the head in the family’s suburban Toronto home.

neither Wayne nor Dellen — both of whom were their parents’ only children — had been heavily involved in Millardair,

He told both Mr. Sharif and a former Millardair pilot that it was designed to be “Dellen’s project” and provide his 27-year-old son with a secure future.
with Wayne dead, the family business unraveled, and Dellen facing one murder charge and under investigation for others, including his father’s.

He emphasized to Dellen, as he had to Wayne, that the real value of the business lay in its coveted Transport Canada operational certification, the high-quality team it had assembled, and the potential customers who, Mr. Sharif says, were lining up. To dismantle the business before things really got underway and plans came to fruition could mean getting back just 20 cents for every dollar invested.

Yet that’s exactly what Dellen, Wayne’s sole heir, did when his father died suddenly. Mr. Sharif and the Millardair team were told that Wayne had died of a brain aneurysm.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...bosma-murder-suspect-started-to-dismantle-it/

 

[swedie]

<rsbm>

This line caught my interest today:

from:
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...toronto_police_search_farm_for_third_day.html



Unknown police source about WM's gf, so we still don't know if she existed, but if she did, perhaps it was her who found WM and not DM who called 911.

If WM was in fact about to be married, that might have put a glitch into any anticipated inheritance DM believed he was entitled to.

Yes I would imagine DM may have been fearful of losing some inheritance to a potential bride. Maybe WM gave DM an allotted amount of time to get his act together and threatened to pull the rug out from under him. Was December 1st the deadline? Did WM talk about rewriting his will now that Millardair was a new and huge entity and was on the upswing? :scared: :moo:

 

[Blomquist]

DM was ready to throw in the towel before his father passed away. Both Carl and WM knew and stated DM was not interested in the business. DM only invited AS to dinner because he was interested in finding out what the business was worth. We've been over and around this oodles of times. AS explained no one was interested in finalizing contracts until they could tour the facility which DM refused to clean up.

Regardless of whether DM was interested in aviation he STILL helped his father when needed. You provide your links to where it says DM only invited AS to dinner to find out what the business was worth....TIA
It comes down to the credibility of AS who failed as an employee and also came forward as a disgruntled and mean, IMO, man who was jealous of DM and who wanted something for nothing IMO. The hangar has been shown to be quite tidy and its only the word of this individual which imo has no credibility due to his failure as a contract bringer (which is apparently what he was paid to do) and the fact that he makes derogatory comments about someone he obviously barely knew...JMO

DM was more than willing to walk away so why would he care about talking business with AS; He was only interested in finding out how much the business was worth, which AS told him.To dismantle the business before things really got underway and plans came to fruition could mean getting back just 20 cents for every dollar invested. Too bad AS wasted his time and efforts on DM, someone who didn't give a hoot, just wanted to have the big garage to carry on illegal business in.

DM ONLY decided to dismantle the business when the business was his....and after AS failed to bring the contracts that WM was hoping he would... I believe he respected his father enough to stand by him and to support him.
There is absolutely no proof that DM was the one behind any alleged chop shop, which as yet is still unproven. If AS wasted any time it was in slacking on the work front and failing to bring in the contracts that he obviously did not bring in...JMO

There was no lack of contracts; in fact a video I posted a few times stated there were huge contracts in WM's hand. DM just did not want to cooperate and clean up his playroom. Seems like he had many temper tantrums over this issue IMO.

Anyone can claim to have contracts....especially if being paid to bring them.... fact is, the hangar was in good shape and looks spotless to all who viewed the photographs and will admit it. imo. Where is the proof of even ONE temper tantrum by Dellen. ??? Now AS that is another matter... imo

When did DM step in when needed to do so? Throwing in the towel?! I guess you could call that stepping in seeming logical to someone who didn't care about the business. Why waste any more of his inheritance?!

I made it clear DM stepped in to deal with AS... People often honour parents wishes, especially when they know the parent has dreams... nothing new here. Dellen obviously had access to enough money to take nice vacations, buy friends gifts etc...so why would he be wanting more.... seems like a nice humble guy to me...judging by what I have read MOO

The fact that WM said it was Dellen Project was because WM was hoping his son would finally grow up and become a man and run the business like it was meant to be run instead of some tinker toy room.

Yes 'hoping' ....that Dellen would want to run the aviation business, nothing wrong with that. Why should DM or anyone else for that matter have to follow in fathers footsteps.... maybe Dellen saw how his dad had did that and not pursued his own dreams..... jmo ...

DM came from money and he knew it and took full advantage of it by not going out and getting a real job. One which may have included his post education interests. Instead he decided to remain on Millardair's payroll and live the good life riding dad's coat tails. When things got really tight with dad's money because dad invested it all in the new hangar, less for DM, DM thought he would start his own business with a buddy chop shopping, drugs and maybe an escort service on the side. ALL JMHO. And time will tell the facts. HTH.

How do you know he took advantage of anything ??? How do you know what he did or didnt do for his father or the business? The claimed 'escort business' of which there is absolutely no proof is 'claimed' to have been during the time WM was alive.... how do you explain that?

He was just a spoilt little brat who had his way all his life and didn&#8217;t appreciate what his father was doing for him.&#8221; &#8220;He was an impediment to the hangar operation&#8221; who didn&#8217;t meet his deadlines, almost never arrived at work before noon, and refused to clear his collection of cars, jeeps, hot rods, jet skis and personal airplanes from the business premises.

Spoilt brats do not usually appear humble and super friendly....believe me... (I have a very spoilt brat as a half sister and she is far from humble or friendly. )These words spouted about Dellen come from some guy who is obviously trying to save face after failing in his business capacity....imo

&#8220;I went over all of the contracts that were in negotiations and the potential for 2013.

Contracts in negotiation does NOT mean they were coming...merely that they were on the table (or merely in someones head).....along with a host of other potential companies after same contracts.....means nothing IMO, AS would have needed to show that he had the ability to seal the deals....which apparently he did not...

He told both Mr. Sharif and a former Millardair pilot that it was designed to be &#8220;Dellen&#8217;s project&#8221; and provide his 27-year-old son with a secure future.

He emphasized to Dellen, as he had to Wayne, that the real value of the business lay in its coveted Transport Canada operational certification, the high-quality team it had assembled, and the potential customers who, Mr. Sharif says, were lining up. To dismantle the business before things really got underway and plans came to fruition could mean getting back just 20 cents for every dollar invested.

Again the words of a 'short term' failed employee imo

If DM was willing to get 20 cents on the dollar I guess that throws the 'needs to get his hands on the business' .... ' not wanting to waste more of his inheritance'.... and spoilt brat who needs money to buy toys and run a chop shop...out of the window IMO

 

[Blomquist]

Yes I would imagine DM may have been fearful of losing some inheritance to a potential bride. Maybe WM gave DM an allotted amount of time to get his act together and threatened to pull the rug out from under him. Was December 1st the deadline? Did WM talk about rewriting his will now that Millardair was a new and huge entity and was on the upswing? :scared: :moo:

I think WM would have made sure that DM was very securely taken care of. The business was a family business passed from father to son. I hardly think WM marrying would have marred DM's inheritance in any real way. The interest from a fraction of the estate would have taken care of his new wife.... (basing this on the value of the properties involved) ... If DM was a giver in the sense of always buying for friends...I hardly see him as depriving a much older lady a place to live and some money to live on....Not only that WM could have given her the house to live in in her lifetime and then passing to Dellen....

As for the 'alloted time' ...I believe the 'hangar businesses' were in WM's lifetime...and I cannot see WM as not having visited his brand new hangar also....JMO

 

[matou]

Accused in the Tim Bosma killing now charged with killing his father, girlfriend

Dellen Millard, the man accused of killing Timothy Bosma, is now also facing first-degree murder charges in the deaths of his father and girlfriend.

Mr. Millard, 28, was charged with murder after Mr. Bosma went missing from his Hamilton home last year. The Ontario Provincial Police and Toronto Police confirmed Thursday afternoon that he is now also facing first-degree murder charges in the deaths of Wayne Millard and Laura Babcock.

omg......we were right.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...irlfriend/article17919798/#dashboard/follows/

 

[canadiangirl]

Refresher on the odd obituary ...
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?pid=161695472

WAYNE C. MILLARD Wayne C. Millard has passed. He is survived by son Dellen Millard. For those who wish to gather in fond memory of Wayne, there will be a reception from 12:00 to 5:00 p.m. on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at Vinsanto Ristorante, 28 Roytec Road, Vaughan, ON. What few words could make comment here... His hope was for a time when cooperation would be the norm and competition was only friendly. He was frugal with himself and generous to others. The only people he feared were racists. He would answer a question with a story. He stepped carefully while advocating carefreeness. He could read and write five languages. He was patient and stubborn. He admired Christ, Gandhi and Lindbergh. He believed animal welfare was a humanitarian effort. He was a good man in a careless world. He was my father. A Master Pilot... Many who knew Wayne Millard, knew him as a pilot. Rightfully so, as he defined himself by the responsibilities of the trade. I now carry his pilot's license in my wallet. It's a good photo. Beside it are noted the type certificates he held. It's a long list from B747s and B757s, to DC3s and L101s, to BH47s and HU500s. For Father piloting wasn't just his job, it was his freedom. A Humanitarian... Wayne supported, organized, and helped fund many missions on behalf of animal welfare. Sponsor a Dog, the Canadian Flora & Fauna Society, Canadian Wildlife Film Productions, the Sea Shepherd Society and the Toronto Humane Society, only to name a few. He saw a future for mankind where we do not pollute our environment or subjugate animal lives to our industry. He was a man of vision. Yet To Be Realized... His last, still unlaunched, animal welfare mission is accepting donations to the 'Elizabeth Glass Animal Welfare Fund', 5 Maple Gate Court, Etobicoke, ON M9C 2K4. He believed we can make a difference in the world. With Wayne in my heart, I believe we must.
- See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?pid=161695472#sthash.NuX9ZJjb.dpuf

 

[bessie]

Canadiangirl, I was just coming here to bump the obit, too. Thanks.

 

[Wondergirl]

WTF. Unbelievable. What many of us suspected all along. I didn't think MS on DM's Dad's death though.

Wow. How many others guys? Holy crap.

 

[Wondergirl]

In October of last year, Toronto Police confirmed that the province's serial predator crime investigations co-ordinator had become involved with the case.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...irlfriend/article17919798/#dashboard/follows/