Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged With Murder In The First Degree #1

[ABro]

Carli wrote:

Well, no point in going on with this further except to say I see nothing about this Obituary, or either Obituary, that suggests it was written by a murderer or, in fact, implies that any murder had taken place. Perhaps, at trial, this document can be dissected more thoroughly and thereby underscore your reactions to it, rather than mine. MOO. IMHO. etc.

No one has said that you can tell from the obituary that a murderer wrote it or that the death of Wayne was a murder. The point is what insights, if any, do the the obituary (and the guestbook) give about the writer and the family dynamic?

Obviously this kind of thing is open to interpretation.

 

[Tamarind]

Carli wrote:



No one has said that you can tell from the obituary that a murderer wrote it or that the death of Wayne was a murder. The point is what insights, if any, do the the obituary (and the guestbook) give about the writer and the family dynamic?

Obviously this kind of thing is open to interpretation.

My interpretation is that someone was trying to incorporate as much about WM as they could into an obituary that would look somewhat 'enigmatic or different' from the run of the mill obits. I don't think there was any intention to be evasive or cryptic, but as you say it has now become open to interpretation. As for the dislike for racists, I personally don't think it is meant as in the usual association of the word 'racist'. It could well be directed at those who tend to put their own 'race' ( the word 'race' has come to mean things other than black v white or white v black ) above others. I think the obit was probably composed with contributions from a couple of people or more and that is why it seems a little disjointed. imo

The lack of context pertaining to the dislike of racists comment is probably a good thing. The comment states what is probably a fact, but they don't go into detail and point fingers, it is after all an obituary and not an expose , which limits the extent of where the prose decides to go.

 

[Juballee]

I first read the Wayne Millard obit just after Dellen was charged with murder and before any reports on his death. Here's what I noticed:

1. The stilted, bad writing of someone trying and failing to appear erudite
2. Weird comments about fearing racists without any context as to meaning
3. Reading and writing five languages is exceedingly rare. Unlikely to be true
4. No cause of death, which often means suicide
5. No reference to anyone else in family except Dellen, the writer. Narcissism warning
6. Reception/memorial happening day of publication of obit, discourages anyone from coming
7. Mother wrote to Dellen in guestbook. Who communicates that way?
8. Aunt wrote in guestbook no one had told her about Wayne's death. Extremely bad form.
9. The EG fund didn't exist. Why solicit donations? And why mention her name and no family members?
10. The picture of the baby seal, which seems especially sinister in light of the current charges
    

Strange things that jumped out about EG obit:

1. Appears two years after her death
2. All the references to family imply closeness yet writer communicates through a newspaper obit
3. The animal welfare fund, which doesn't exist and is tied to the strange obit of Wayne Millard
4. No other references to EG anywhere
5. Weird style. Could it have been written by Dellen Millard? (Forensic linguist says very unlikely)

It is my experience that people go out of their way to immediately inform others of a death and funeral -- even estranged family members and friends. It's peculiar that in both cases, the convention of notifying people clearly wasn't followed.

I realize that most of the other points here have already been disputed, so I do not want to sound redundant, but try as I might, I cannot understand what is so sinister about a baby seal photo, please elaborate. I could see it as being sinister if a seal had been accused of his murder, but I just don't see the sinister connection there, sorry. Is it a pun I am missing or was the seal line added as a joke I just don't get, perhaps?

In regards to the EG part, wasn't it you who had paid for the forensic linguist yourself, if I recall correctly? Are you saying now that you disagree with their professional assessment, is that why you included that question about the possible author being DM?

And has anyone ever considered that maybe the EG memorial piece was written just as a means for WM to express a loss he may have still felt two years later, or to commemorate the sad anniversary in a meaningful way?

 

[Snoofo]

And has anyone ever considered that maybe the EG memorial piece was written just as a means for WM to express a loss he may have still felt two years later, or to commemorate the sad anniversary in a meaningful way?

That's a very good point and the most logical IMO.

 

[ABro]

My interpretation is that someone was trying to incorporate as much about WM as they could into an obituary that would look somewhat 'enigmatic or different' from the run of the mill obits. I don't think there was any intention to be evasive or cryptic, but as you say it has now become open to interpretation.

I agree that Dellen Millard strives to be different and enigmatic. I also believe the whole test drive murder scenario was designed to be different and enigmatic.

 

[ABro]

I realize that most of the other points here have already been disputed, so I do not want to sound redundant, but try as I might, I cannot understand what is so sinister about a baby seal photo, please elaborate. I could see it as being sinister if a seal had been accused of his murder, but I just don't see the sinister connection there, sorry. Is it a pun I am missing or was the seal line added as a joke I just don't get, perhaps?

The writer of the obit is now accused of killing his father. A baby seal is an animal famous for being clubbed to death. If Dellen Millard is found guilty (he's pled innocent) his photo choice would indeed be sinister. I find it sinister just knowing he's accused of the crime.

In regards to the EG part, wasn't it you who had paid for the forensic linguist yourself, if I recall correctly? Are you saying now that you disagree with their professional assessment, is that why you included that question about the possible author being DM?

The forensic linguist worked pro bono. No, I do not disagree with their professional assessment. I found it quite enlightening and it convinced me the obits were not written by the same person. You'll notice that I said, those were things that caught my attention when I first read the obit.

Now, question for you, Juballee. You seem to have a healthy respect for expert opinion -- in this case the forensic linguist, and I remember you taking me to task for finding the answer of a Toronto homicide detective evasive. You appeared to think it was out of line for me to question this detective's account of events. And on several other occasions on these forums, you've mentioned your respect for police.

I can't help but wonder how you reconcile this respect for the police and other experts with your opinion (or what I interpret to be your opinion) that Dellen Millard is innocent. If he is, three major police forces have totally blown it. Not only did they get the wrong guy for the Bosma murder, they then spent a year investigating him before charging him with two other murders, none of which you seem to believe he committed.

 

[Tamarind]

I agree that Dellen Millard strives to be different and enigmatic. I also believe the whole test drive murder scenario was designed to be different and enigmatic.

You say that you believe the obit was written by more than one in you previous posts, that is what I suggested in my post. Wanting an obit for someone you care about to be different from run of the mill obits would be out of a feeling that your loved one was special ( to you), and deserving of the extra effort. My post did not say that I believe DM to strive to be different or enigmatic generally (that would be a twist on my words). In contrast I do not think the test drive was planned by DM as you do, I also do not think that the test drive be it planned or not, was different or enigmatic, I see it either as a planned/unplanned hijack of a vehicle/man for an as yet undetermined reason or a spontaneous occurrence. Thats just how I see it, again its all open to interpretation as you say.

 

[ABro]

You say that you believe the obit was written by more than one in you previous posts, that is what I suggested in my post. Wanting an obit for someone you care about to be different from run of the mill obits would be out of a feeling that your loved one was special ( to you), and deserving of the extra effort. My post did not say that I believe DM to strive to be different or enigmatic generally (that would be a twist on my words). In contrast I do not think the test drive was planned by DM as you do, I also do not think that the test drive be it planned or not, was different or enigmatic, I see it either as a planned/unplanned hijack of a vehicle/man for an as yet undetermined reason or a spontaneous occurrence. Thats just how I see it, again its all open to interpretation as you say.

Just to clarify, I originally believed Dellen Millard wrote both obits. After consulting a forensic linguist, my opinion changed. I now believe the EG obit was written by Wayne Millard. The WM obit was written by Dellen, something stated in the obit itself. I don't think either obit had multiple writers.

 

[matou]

Still wondering about the non-existing charity. Send money to my own address, please (i.e. charity)? JMO

 

[Tamarind]

Just to clarify, I originally believed Dellen Millard wrote both obits. After consulting a forensic linguist, my opinion changed. I now believe the EG obit was written by Wayne Millard. The WM obit was written by Dellen, something stated in the obit itself. I don't think either obit had multiple writers.

Thank you for the clarification. I see that something in the WM obit says 'father' which would indicate that Dellen was a contributor. There is also a section that say 'Wayne' and while I know that some sons/daughters refer to parents by their first names it is usually one or the other, this suggests to me that someone else contributed to the obituary.

With the EG obituary, it could well have been WM who wrote it and it could also have been a family member who was advised to put a notice in a newspaper in the area she was living at the time of death so that her will could be finalized. Maybe it took a while for the will to be dealt with and certain criteria needed to be met. Wills can take anything from 6 months to two or more years to be finalized in my experience (although limited) in such matters.

 

[Tamarind]

I thought someone had shown earlier that the 'charity' did exist. ?

 

[ABro]

I always found the comments of the police profiler in this article to be very insightful.

http://www.mississauga.com/news-sto...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

Millard, an only child, seemed to display a grandiose sense of his family history in an obituary he wrote following his father's death.
In the obituary published last December, he referred to himself in the third person ("He is survived by his son Dellen Millard") and went on to claim his father "read and spoke five languages" and then listed the three figures Wayne Millard most admired: "Christ, Gandhi and Lindberg" — misspelling the name of Charles Lindbergh, one of the most famous aviators in history.
In the obituary, he refers to his dad as "Father": "For Father piloting wasn't just his job but his freedom … He was a man of vision. Yet To Be Realized."
Following the death of his grandfather, Dellen Millard posted on an aviators' chat forum when it appeared that commentators were suggesting Carl Millard had been a difficult man.
Millard again referenced himself in the third person ("Yes that was his grandson who soloed in fixed and rotary wing aircraft back in 99") and added in defence of his grandfather, "For those of you who knew him, thank you for your kind stories … for those who cast misjudgment so freely yet ignorantly, it's a shame, because you missed out."]

 

[Juballee]

The writer of the obit is now accused of killing his father. A baby seal is an animal famous for being clubbed to death. If Dellen Millard is found guilty (he's pled innocent) his photo choice would indeed be sinister. I find it sinister just knowing he's accused of the crime.

So then by this standard of 'sinister', any photo of anyone who was to eventually die by way of murder, is sinister, as long as that picture also contains an animal that is frequently known to be killed? So what about the pictures of TB and his dog, or LB and her dog, are they also sinister, (since dogs are known to be euthanized)?

This is so confusing still, please explain. Yes, baby seals get clubbed. Did WM get clubbed? Did DM like to go out clubbing? What is the connection that is so sinister? If it had been a picture of WM with EG, or a horse, or a plane or with DM, would it have been more or less sinister?

 

[Juballee]

Still wondering about the non-existing charity. Send money to my own address, please (i.e. charity)? JMO

I think that a lot of charities may be run out of someone's home until they bring in enough donations to justify relocating to a rented space, logically.

And it was already proven here at least twice that the charity was legitimate, so why are we tainting it with suspicion again? That's unkind and possibly slanderous at this point, isn't it? What have we got against that foundation raising money to help animals?

 

[Snoofo]

Didn't WM and MB run their priduction company from home or did they have an office? I can't find the details now but I thought they used a home address was it for ordering the movie? I'll try to dig deeper.

Insofar as the baby seal goes, if WM was clubbing the seals then I'd say the photo choice would have been bizarro. But WM spent a good deal of time in his life on the plight to save the seals from clubbing. To me it's the equivalent of any devoted advocate getting a symbol of their cause acknowledged upon their death. It represents something WM stood for, probably in his better days (from what I can tell of his history). MOO!

I think DM used the tone of EG's obit as an example in writing Wayne's. Sure it seems pretentious for a young man, but whatever. MOO too!

 

[Sillybilly]

With the EG obituary, it could well have been WM who wrote it and it could also have been a family member who was advised to put a notice in a newspaper in the area she was living at the time of death so that her will could be finalized.

<rsbm>

There is no legal requirement for an obituary to be published, and an obit does not constitute a Notice to Creditors.

 

[Sillybilly]

I thought someone had shown earlier that the 'charity' did exist. ?

The name of the charity first appeared in the Blumberg list published in 2014. So while it appears to exist now, there is nothing to indicate when it was registered.

Knowing the full details about it is the only way a meaningful discussion about it may or may not support any suspicions of wrongdoing.

 

[Sillybilly]

So what about the pictures of TB and his dog, or LB and her dog, are they also sinister, (since dogs are known to be euthanized)?

Difference being .. photos of TB and LB with their pets were not contained in an obituary, unlike one for a women who had an association with a now-accused murderer.

Given the current situation where we have 3 murders associated with the accused, I think it is only prudent to question why a baby seal photo was used rather than just the pics of EG alone, or a pic of EG with a member of her family, or even a loving picture of EG and WM.

ETA: cansleuther has subsequently corrected me that it was WM's obit, not EG's where the pic appeared. One must adjust my above diatribe accordingly.

 

[cansleuther]

Difference being .. photos of TB and LB with their pets were not contained in an obituary, unlike one for a women who had an association with a now-accused murderer.

Given the current situation where we have 3 murders associated with the accused, I think it is only prudent to question why a baby seal photo was used rather than just the pics of EG alone, or a pic of EG with a member of her family, or even a loving picture of EG and WM.

The picture of the seal was in WM's obituary, not EG's.

 

[Sillybilly]

And it was already proven here at least twice that the charity was legitimate, so why are we tainting it with suspicion again? That's unkind and possibly slanderous at this point, isn't it? What have we got against that foundation raising money to help animals?

Again, while it seems to exist now, nothing has been "proven" as to when it was registered (pre or post DM being charged with murders). IOW, did DM (from a prison cell) or someone else associated with DM deem it necessary to formalize its status to offset any suspicion about yet another person that knew DM.

I don't think anyone here has anything against any animal welfare fund. If you recall, we all had suspicions surrounding DM's known association with LB and he is now charged in her murder. Yes, we "tainted" LB's disappearance and WM's death with suspicion and it appears LE did as well ... DM sits in jail charged with their murders.

Everything about an accused murderer and his life becomes subject to scrutiny.