Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged With Murder In The First Degree #1

[SnooperDuper]

Maybe it has more to do with the circumstances and the oddities in this case that makes one question the official story, rather than it being about a rich, pleasant looking young man who is known to be humble and who has no criminal record. JMO

Yes, and DM was at his humblest when he had the pink mohawk and had "I am heaven sent - Don't you dare forget" tattooed on him. Absolute dictionary definition of humble.

As for the criminal record, theft over, forcible confinement and three murder charges is quite a record isn't it? And that's not including the hijinks that put him in the police contacts database.

Personally I am not into the fu manchu style: if you think that is the definition of pleasant looking, you probably like Hulk Hogan's tan too.

 

[Tamarind]

Yes, and DM was at his humblest when he had the pink mohawk and had "I am heaven sent - Don't you dare forget" tattooed on him. Absolute dictionary definition of humble.

Being humble is not about appearances, it is about the heartfelt expressions from within. It is about knowing that 'before the grace of God/Creator go I' and that had we been born of a different mother we could have been in the same place as those less fortunate.

http://boardofwisdom.com/togo/Quotes/ShowQuote?msgid=590937#.VHiMMMlSNYw

As for the criminal record, theft over, forcible confinement and three murder charges is quite a record isn't it? And that's not including the hijinks that put him in the police contacts database.

Contacts are not records other than a gathering of information by police for whatever reason they see fit. Every driver is in a database. Alleged charges are not a criminal record until a time that those charges may become convictions.

Personally I am not into the fu manchu style: if you think that is the definition of pleasant looking, you probably like Hulk Hogan's tan too.

I am not into bald heads (sorry if this applies to your pate ) but hair and heads have no reflection of the character of the mind beneath it, cue Einstein and Ghandi.

I can see past red hair and piercings and even facial imperfections and note a pleasant looking face. Tans don't necessarily float my boat either, although a bit of oil rubbed in might LOL

 

[Variant]

Being humble is not about appearances, it is about the heartfelt expressions from within. It is about knowing that 'before the grace of God/Creator go I' and that had we been born of a different mother we could have been in the same place as those less fortunate.

http://boardofwisdom.com/togo/Quotes/ShowQuote?msgid=590937#.VHiMMMlSNYw

Contacts are not records other than a gathering of information by police for whatever reason they see fit. Every driver is in a database. Alleged charges are not a criminal record until a time that those charges may become convictions.

I am not into bald heads (sorry if this applies to your pate ) but hair and heads have no reflection of the character of the mind beneath it, cue Einstein and Ghandi.

I can see past red hair and piercings and even facial imperfections and note a pleasant looking face. Tans don't necessarily float my boat either, although a bit of oil rubbed in might LOL

Where did you get the impression that DM was humble, other than from his lawyer's statements?

And are you saying that persons who engage in criminal activities but are not charged or convicted aren't criminals?

 

[Tamarind]

Where did you get the impression that DM was humble, other than from his lawyer's statements?

And are you saying that persons who engage in criminal activities but are not charged or convicted aren't criminals?

I formed an opinion the same way that others have formed an opinion that he is a cold blooded killer. I based my opinion on information presented, the same way others have formed theirs, unless of course they know him personally and thats another matter. Many think he is a killer based on allegations alone.

I am not saying anything of the kind, infact I think many people are criminal and yet to many they are the epitome of justice and honor. It depends on perspective I think , don't you?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Being humble is not about appearances, it is about the heartfelt expressions from within. It is about knowing that 'before the grace of God/Creator go I' and that had we been born of a different mother we could have been in the same place as those less fortunate.

Now TB was a humble man who meekly accepted the guidance of his father, mother, church, wife, daughter to create the direction in his life (which brought him a lot of personal success at a young age).

DM has every sign of being an arrogant, self-centered fool who thought he was too smart for the teachers at school, and bucked against his grandfather and father and mother's guidance. In other words, DM was the opposite of humble, as humble means being an obedient son and student.

Contacts are not records other than a gathering of information by police for whatever reason they see fit. Every driver is in a database. Alleged charges are not a criminal record until a time that those charges may become convictions.

Full Criminal Record. Contains:

Name
Date of birth
Personal characteristics
Disposition (my note: that is temperament/character, e.g., "aggressive")
Stays in proceedings
Withdrawn charges
Conviction history
Dates associated with each conviction
Jurisdiction
Acquittals
Absolute and conditional discharges (my bold: you don't have to be convicted for charges to hang around like a bad smell)

http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/pub/A5.htm#Q2

I am not into bald heads (sorry if this applies to your pate ) but hair and heads have no reflection of the character of the mind beneath it, cue Einstein and Ghandi.

I can see past red hair and piercings and even facial imperfections and note a pleasant looking face. Tans don't necessarily float my boat either, although a bit of oil rubbed in might LOL

I can see past all that stuff too, when I take off my glasses.

 

[robynhood]

JMHO EXCELLENT POST...and I do have my glasses off too...FYI..only>>>>>>SnooperDuper....and I must ADD ...IMO ..JMHO...TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL...do not worry TB....and what a genuine HUMBLE man he was....check out how be purposed to marry SHARLENe Bosma on google ...Interesting...robynhood.

 

[Sillybilly]

I can see past all that stuff too, when I take off my glasses.

I have a nice pair of rose-coloured you can borrow.

This guy had a pleasant looking face for the cameras:

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2070450.138197930...derivatives/original_300/ott-russwilliams.jpg

But not always:

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2118772.138207260...al_300/col-williams-court-exhibit1-101810.jpg

 

[Alethea Dice]

Now TB was a humble man who meekly accepted the guidance of his father, mother, church, wife, daughter to create the direction in his life (which brought him a lot of personal success at a young age).

DM has every sign of being an arrogant, self-centered fool who thought he was too smart for the teachers at school, and bucked against his grandfather and father and mother's guidance. In other words, DM was the opposite of humble, as humble means being an obedient son and student.





http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/pub/A5.htm#Q2



I can see past all that stuff too, when I take off my glasses.

Being humble means you don't look down on other people or think you're better than them. There were a few interviews with people who knew DM and described him in this way. I don't think many parents expect their children to be "obedient" to them after a certain age, even if that was the definition of humble.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humble

You also don't have a criminal record if you're found not guilty, although the discharge will still show on your police record. I believe the report was that the police file on DM was from him being "carded" at some point, not from him being charged with something.

http://www.legalinfo.org/criminal-law/going-to-provincial-court.html#4

 

[Alethea Dice]

I have a nice pair of rose-coloured you can borrow.

This guy had a pleasant looking face for the cameras:

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2070450.138197930...derivatives/original_300/ott-russwilliams.jpg

But not always:

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2118772.138207260...al_300/col-williams-court-exhibit1-101810.jpg

I would need very thick rose-coloured glasses for either of those pictures to look pleasant.

 

[Tamarind]

Now TB was a humble man who meekly accepted the guidance of his father, mother, church, wife, daughter to create the direction in his life (which brought him a lot of personal success at a young age).

I didnt realize you knew TB personally.! The difference is, that I am willing to believe TB may have been everything you say he was, based on whatever you say or whatever the press says, because he is the victim in this event. I also however, am willing to believe that DM was the humble guy his lawyer claims and the guy who Molly Hayes says had said he did not do this. I also watched the video of him in Croatia on the boat several times and watched his body language and facial expressions together with what he said and how he reacted. I did not see any sign of arrogance or being anything less than polite, calm and friendly. Now I didnt know him, but I have always felt I am a good judge of body language and character regardless of anyones bank balance.

I dont find attacking someones opinion by ridicule as particularly clever or polite, but I will say this, blind people often have a very good sense of what they feel about people, just by hearing the voice or sensing their vibe.

 

[Sillybilly]

Whoever it was that smiled at Sharlene Bosma as they left with her husband never to be seen again, apparently had both SB and TB duped.

Monsters don't always look like monsters, and all victims taken in by such monsters are not stupid people.

 

[Sillybilly]

Snooper stated they feel Tim was a humble man and gave their reasons for thinking so. How is this yet another attack on your opinion?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Being humble means you don't look down on other people or think you're better than them. There were a few interviews with people who knew DM and described him in this way. I don't think many parents expect their children to be "obedient" to them after a certain age, even if that was the definition of humble.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humble

If you don't look down on your parents or think you're better than them, you are glad to slurp up their wisdom and have them guide you.

But I guess there is nothing stopping you from being humble among your friends, and arrogant with your family.

You also don't have a criminal record if you're found not guilty, although the discharge will still show on your police record. I believe the report was that the police file on DM was from him being "carded" at some point, not from him being charged with something.

http://www.legalinfo.org/criminal-law/going-to-provincial-court.html#4

Criminal records can live on past a not guilty verdict:

If charges did not result in a conviction, but your record is on the RCMP system you may contact the investigating police service and ask them to request that your fingerprints and all information taken at the time of arrest be destroyed. The police service may choose to deny this request for specific reasons.

Local police services have their own policy and you should contact them for more information on how non-conviction records are managed. The RCMP has a policy which outlines the criteria they use to determine if the non-conviction information can be destroyed, including compelling reasons to deny the request.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/rs-ed-eng.htm

But a good point: there are criminal records (federal) and police records (municipal/provincial)...DM may not have had a federal records (criminal record) but he did have a police record (at the very least by carding) and was known to police (again, at least by carding). Police had DM's name in their database. 'nuff said.

 

[Tamarind]

Whoever it was that smiled at Sharlene Bosma as they left with her husband never to be seen again, apparently had both SB and TB duped.

Monsters don't always look like monsters, and all victims taken in by such monsters are not stupid people.

I agree not all monsters (metaphorically speaking) look like monsters. Not all killers are monsters and not all monsters are killers. JMO. Just as not all accused are guilty.

Evil is often shrouded as light. People that are taken in by anything are not necessarily stupid people I agree. I don''t think answering a call about a truck is stupid any more than I think going to look at one is. So that scenario to me is everyday life. What is not everyday life is that an event took place and someone is now accused of murder. It would be nice to find out the truth whatever it may be.

 

[Tamarind]

But I guess there is nothing stopping you from being humble among your friends, and arrogant with your family.

If someone is humble, they are humble. You cant really compartmentalize humble.IMO To do so takes away from the meaning of it JMO

Criminal records can live on past a not guilty verdict:

Isn't that awful? To think that an innocent may have to live with false data hanging around them like a bad smell, and that it can incriminate them at some point in the future.

But a good point: there are criminal records (federal) and police records (municipal/provincial)...DM may not have had a federal records (criminal record) but he did have a police record (at the very least by carding) and was known to police (again, at least by carding). Police had DM's name in their database. 'nuff said.

Carding? Are you saying that because some police officer decides to gather up some information baseless or otherwise and document it, it is then considered to be a criminal record? We are in a bad way if thats the case.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Isn't that awful? To think that an innocent may have to live with false data hanging around them like a bad smell, and that it can incriminate them at some point in the future.

It's not false data it's true data. However it is bad data not good data.

Carding? Are you saying that because some police officer decides to gather up some information baseless or otherwise and document it, it is then considered to be a criminal record? We are in a bad way if thats the case.

Police record not criminal record

More recently, a physical feature recorded on a “208” contact card during a traffic stop led police to accused murderer Dellen Millard.

Toronto police stop hundreds of thousands of people each year, recording on contact cards details such as an individual’s name, address, description, and the personal information of the people they’re with. The information is then entered into a police database that by now contains millions of names.

The vast majority of cards are filled out during non-criminal encounters. Between 2008 and 2012, one in 10 people carded was arrested and charged by Toronto police during that same time period.

I think the bolded part means, "would have got off, but was a jerk to the cop".

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/18/carding_by_toronto_police_drops_sharply.html

 

[Tamarind]

It's not false data it's true data. However it is bad data not good data.



Police record not criminal record





I think the bolded part means, "would have got off, but was a jerk to the cop".

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/18/carding_by_toronto_police_drops_sharply.html

So a personality clash can give you a police record? Charming

 

[SnooperDuper]

So a personality clash can give you a police record? Charming

Sure, and your disposition can be part of it.

 

[Alethea Dice]

So a personality clash can give you a police record? Charming

In some cities, all you had to be was a student (or live in a student neighbourhood).

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BgSdTqb5m_EJ:www.lfpress.com/2013/10/18/cops-doorstep-visits-with-students-under-fire+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

 

[Tamarind]

Sure, and your disposition can be part of it.

That is disgusting IMO. Police should not be able to keep records of personality clashes and peoples personalities as they see them. That is subjective and the officers opinion only.