Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged With Murder In The First Degree #1

[ABro]

I also however, am willing to believe that DM was the humble guy his lawyer claims and the guy who Molly Hayes says had said he did not do this. I also watched the video of him in Croatia on the boat several times and watched his body language and facial expressions together with what he said and how he reacted. I did not see any sign of arrogance or being anything less than polite, calm and friendly. Now I didnt know him, but I have always felt I am a good judge of body language and character regardless of anyones bank balance.

Interesting what people pick up on. That boat video was one of the things that piqued my interest in this story. I watched it the day before DM was charged with murder. At the time, I noticed:

1. For someone who went to French school for ten-plus years, DM did not speak good French
2. DM likes to flout authority. He and les gars shouldn't have been diving where they were.
3. Very bromancy vibe going on especially with BM. Reminded me of the "Gay or European?" number from Legally Blonde, the musical

 

[SnooperDuper]

Sheesh ABro I really feel like I am missing out. Where can I find this video?

 

[ABro]

Sheesh ABro I really feel like I am missing out. Where can I find this video?

Sadly, I don't believe it's available anymore.

 

[matou]

Video in Croatia:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152889521735004&set=vb.175923182567930&type=3&theater

 

[matou]

Other videos of the same trip:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152889513335004&set=vb.175923182567930&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152889732635004&set=vb.175923182567930&type=3&theater

 

[matou]

He didn't kill his father or Tim Bosma yet. He had just killed Laura Babcock, didn't he?

 

[SnooperDuper]

He didn't kill his father or Tim Bosma yet. He had just killed Laura Babcock, didn't he?

So maybe he is a little more pulled together than Hans Kristian Rausing.

DM sure has an interesting personality.

 

[Variant]

He didn't kill his father or Tim Bosma yet. He had just killed Laura Babcock, didn't he?

Yeah, he needed some time away to clear his mind and figure out what to do with dad.

 

[Tamarind]

Interesting what people pick up on. That boat video was one of the things that piqued my interest in this story. I watched it the day before DM was charged with murder. At the time, I noticed:
[*]For someone who went to French school for ten-plus years, DM did not speak good French

I was taught French for many years and I still am far from fluent in my opinion, how does this mean anything ?

DM likes to flout authority. He and les gars shouldn't have been diving where they were.

Hardly defines flouting authority, like someone posted above, students can be listed as troublemakers for simply living in a certain neighborhood. I also hear DM saying I don't understand how you can get in the caves and someone else says "With a dinghy"

Very bromancy vibe going on especially with BM. Reminded me of the "Gay or European?" number from Legally Blonde, the musical

Is that criminal? Maybe one or more or none is gay, how is that reflective on DM? How would someones sexual preference or their friendship with another who has a differing preference reflect on him? Just wondering.

and now a song sheds light on him? :guitar: interesting concept. jmo

 

[Tamarind]

Yeah, he needed some time away to clear his mind and figure out what to do with dad.

Or maybe he was simply spending his 'summer' with family and friends in France and surrounding areas?

 

[Tamarind]

He didn't kill his father or Tim Bosma yet. He had just killed Laura Babcock, didn't he?

Did he? thats a million dollar question. Looks like this trip had been planned for some time judging by the people on it IMO. So not a run and hide sort of trip IMO

 

[matou]

He met up with SL at the end of July, cut the conversation short with him and then left for this trip, it looks like to me. It was a run and hide sort of trip IMO.

 

[Tamarind]

That is quite a contrast to the psychopathic killer of TB

I think this is going to be a Hans Kristian Rausing kinda story

I dont see any similarities,JMO

 

[Tamarind]

He met up with SL at the end of July, cut the conversation short with him and then left for this trip, it looks like to me. It was a run and hide sort of trip IMO.

Maybe he was getting ready to go on his planned summer vacation and kindly gave SL some of his limited time? I know if I was trying to get things done before a long vacation I would be kinda rushed. Nothing odd there IMO

 

[Variant]

Maybe he was getting ready to go on his planned summer vacation and kindly gave SL some of his limited time? I know if I was trying to get things done before a long vacation I would be kinda rushed. Nothing odd there IMO

Can you point to proof that it was "planned"? I expect that if they thought it was useful to their case LE could confirm whether the trip was ad hoc or not- ticket purchase dates, emails from the computer seizures etc.

 

[Tamarind]

Can you point to proof that it was "planned"? I expect that if they thought it was useful to their case LE could confirm whether the trip was ad hoc or not- ticket purchase dates, emails from the computer seizures etc.

No more than you can point to proof that it wasn't. Like you say I expect the itinerary information is available somewhere.

 

[MsSherlock]

No more than you can point to proof that it wasn't. Like you say I expect the itinerary information is available somewhere.

Very true Tamarind. At this point it's up for grabs. However, regardless if it was planned, or wasn't, and if DM is found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he did in fact murder LB, the planning of this trip may shed some light into who DM truly is.

Hey, I'm all for giving any accused person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this was a planned holiday and DM was super pressed for time..because he's so incredibly busy, overflowing with compassion- enough so to give a babbling LB friend some of his precious time etc etc, maybe that's all true. BUT, to make that assumption would require me to buy in to a universal conspiracy theory that absolutely everyone and everything was conspiring against DM, and I just can't buy it. To do so, would mean that I would somehow have to think that DM was someone "heaven sent"- and I don't. DM wasn't special. DM lied to SL. Flat out lied. The chilling part? LB was already dead and now, she's been somehow tied to an incinerator, one that just happened to found on DM's property many moons later when someone else, that DM coincidently is going to buy a truck from, is found. MOO
http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/laura-babcock

IMHO, DM is nothing more than another run of the mill psychopathic killer. They lie, they deceive, they're wolves in sheep clothing, they're dangerous, they kill innocent people, and they betray. SB phrased it all ""The devil led the vilest form of evil down our driveway and he smiled at me before driving Tim away."

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...reds-gather-to-mourn-murder-victim-tim-bosma/

IMHO, and only MOO, when DM is found guilty for these 3 murders, many people will be left in shock. My heart goes out to friends, family and supporters who really want to believe in his innocence. Murder trials come in all shapes and sizes, but IMO, those involving Psychopaths are earth shattering for those who are close to the accused. If DM is found guilty, I seriously doubt that he'll worry about anyone who supported him- DM's world is all about DM. But on another note, he may want to get working on those "small space" designs. MOO
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

 

[Alethea Dice]

Interesting what people pick up on. That boat video was one of the things that piqued my interest in this story. I watched it the day before DM was charged with murder. At the time, I noticed:

1. For someone who went to French school for ten-plus years, DM did not speak good French
2. DM likes to flout authority. He and les gars shouldn't have been diving where they were.
3. Very bromancy vibe going on especially with BM. Reminded me of the "Gay or European?" number from Legally Blonde, the musical

Seriously? So in your world, young people never swim where they shouldn't? And males never ever have close friends? Bromance? Really?? :shakehead:

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

SB phrased it all ""The devil led the vilest form of evil down our driveway and he smiled at me before driving Tim away."

<rsbm>

Just a small correction. That quote is wrong. What she actually said was "it" smiled at me. The actual video of her saying it has been posted here many times. IMPO, there is a difference. Maybe not as convenient as using the word he, but the facts are the facts.

JMO

 

[Tamarind]

Very true Tamarind. At this point it's up for grabs. However, regardless if it was planned, or wasn't, and if DM is found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he did in fact murder LB, the planning of this trip may shed some light into who DM truly is.

Really! If the trip was planned a year earlier and the plane booking was made a week before he leaves does that mean something? If the trip was planned months before and he booked it 3 weeks before he leaves does that mean something? IMO the only way it would look odd is if the flight was booked on the 3rd July 2012 and even then it is not game over.IMO

Hey, I'm all for giving any accused person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this was a planned holiday and DM was super pressed for time..because he's so incredibly busy, overflowing with compassion- enough so to give a babbling LB friend some of his precious time etc etc, maybe that's all true. BUT, to make that assumption would require me to buy in to a universal conspiracy theory that absolutely everyone and everything was conspiring against DM, and I just can't buy it. To do so, would mean that I would somehow have to think that DM was someone "heaven sent"- and I don't. DM wasn't special. DM lied to SL. Flat out lied. The chilling part? LB was already dead and now, she's been somehow tied to an incinerator, one that just happened to found on DM's property many moons later when someone else, that DM coincidently is going to buy a truck from, is found. MOO
http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/laura-babcock

Heaven sent? I dont think DM flat out lied, I think he never placed any importance on calls that he didnt answer ( according to the phone bill) or to a one time call that was just LB looking for a place to stay. She had apparently called a few people looking for a place to stay. What is chilling? Where is the body? What motive would DM have to kill LB? I cant see any and I have been looking for one.

IMHO, DM is nothing more than another run of the mill psychopathic killer. They lie, they deceive, they're wolves in sheep clothing, they're dangerous, they kill innocent people, and they betray. SB phrased it all ""The devil led the vilest form of evil down our driveway and he smiled at me before driving Tim away."

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...reds-gather-to-mourn-murder-victim-tim-bosma/

IMHO, and only MOO, when DM is found guilty for these 3 murders, many people will be left in shock. My heart goes out to friends, family and supporters who really want to believe in his innocence. Murder trials come in all shapes and sizes, but IMO, those involving Psychopaths are earth shattering for those who are close to the accused. If DM is found guilty, I seriously doubt that he'll worry about anyone who supported him- DM's world is all about DM. But on another note, he may want to get working on those "small space" designs. MOO
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

I can only imagine how shocked people on here would be if he is found Not Guilty. Case closed ? It will be interesting either way IMO. I don't think its a matter of people supporting him. I think some people feel the case is not adding up and they are reserving their right to presume him innocent, along with MS for that matter. I will be interested to see the reactions to a Not Guilty verdict posted on here. We have no way of knowing until after trial so any opinion at this point is simply an opinion.