Wayne Millard Murder Trial - Dellen Millard Charged With Murder - #1

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One of the things contributing to the weird vibe is how unnaturally still he is throughout the interview. There is very little use of gestures and he basically looks like a statue that occasionally swivels it's head. It manages to suggest a bit of arrogance, a bit of contempt and a whole lot of emotional flatness. I wonder if this is what a psychopath thinks shocked and sad is supposed to look like.
I think he flips between arrogance and feigning ignorance. Did anyone else pick up the line, "what's a medical condition?" when the detective was inquiring about the state of WM's health? He had relayed the details about WM's back and mobility issues but when asked about any other medical conditions his father may have, that was his response. Not unlike letting on that he didn't know where MS lived. So this is apparently a guy you "take to work with me" regularly and you stay there sometimes but yet you don't know the address? And furthermore, he indicates he's not entirely sure of his position in the company because it's not on his business card!! Oh...yes...but I think I'm the VP.
 
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I had the same reaction to the word afternoon. For example, when I’m at work I often don’t know the exact time but (especially in the winter because it’s dark at 4-4:30) past about 5-5:30pm I answer the phone as “good evening” instead of “good afternoon” instinctively, because it’s so dark. I’d never consider the pitch blackness of 6:30 in November to be the afternoon. I could understand if being confusing in the summer when day runs into evening, but it just smells fishy in this case.
I picked up on that too. I was wondering if it was his way of planting a seed or giving the impression that more time had elapsed between when he arrived at Maple Gate and ultimately when the call to 911 was made because as we know to this point that timeline (of approximately 30 minutes) is awfully tight for everything to have transpired the way he has suggested to date.
 
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Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Johnston says she was told by officers at the scene that Dellen Millard last saw his father the day before. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Johnston says officers at the scene told her Wayne Millard was a heavy drinker, and was taking oxycodone for pain relief for a back problem. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC now26 seconds ago
Johnston says the home's basement was fairly large, with the walls painted black. There were several screens up along the walls. "It looked like gaming stations," she says. There was a smell of pot in the air. #Millard
 
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What benefit would there be to the coroner to determine a death to be a suicide rather than a murder? I know a murder would leader to more investigation but I'm curious to know what role the coroner would play in that. It sounds like the coroner in this case did have at least some suspicion that it was a murder and not a suicide but seemed to really want to deem it a suicide. I'm curious to know what his motivations were. Did he just really want to just get out of there and go home? Or is there more to it? I don't think he was unaware of his responsibilities.
 
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Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
Johnston says she was empathetic in that conversation. "I felt bad for them. They just saw a deceased person, that doesn't happen to many people," she says, adding she then explained how things would work with the investigation. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Johnston says at this point, she had no suspicions that Millard's death was not a suicide. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Johnston says at one point, she asked them to come to the station and give statements. She says Burns was upset at the time, and it looked like she had been crying. As for Millard: "He was pleasant, he was quiet." #Millard


Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 47s48 seconds ago
"Did you threaten them at all?" Lockhart says. Johnston responds no. #Millard
 
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Toronto Police have to approach sudden deaths as suspicious . Dellen is going to be found not guilty because of the bad Police work in this case
 
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Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Lockhart now asking about "investigative detention" -- when an officer detains someone in relation to an investigation that they have suspicions about. He has asked this of all the officers involved here. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 58s59 seconds ago
She says she was not investigatively detaining Dellen Millard. He wasn't suspected of anything. "If he wanted to leave, he could leave," she says -- though she did not tell him that. #Millard
 
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Toronto Police have to approach sudden deaths as suspicious . Dellen is going to be found not guilty because of the bad Police work in this case
I hope there is more to come. I'm hoping there are letters.
 
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Firearms trafficker who sold gun used in Tim Bosma killing sentenced to 11 years in prison | CBC News

Just came across this pic of MWJ, the thuggish firearms trafficker who sold guns to DM. Not realizing at the time when I first saw it that DMs father had also been shot through the eye, the photo takes a tone beyond creepiness.

Gun in one hand, a wad of folded money (I think?) in the other, I wonder did this photo motivate and portray DMs actions?
 
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If he shot himself in the head wouldn't he die instantly and how did the gun get on the bag. I would think it would be on the bed beside him. I think the police really messed up and they just accepted it was a suicide. Probably DM and his mother made up some story and said that Wayne was a recluse, depressed, alcoholic and DM said that he had not heard from his father and was concerned. The police accepted their story. If that is true it is dispicable because it cost another man his life, Tim Bosma because DM would go on to murder Tim.

I have witnessed many gun shot victims who were shot or shot themselves in the head that were left alive and brought to Emerg. Dept. I even remember one who shot himself through the mouth and is still alive today, many years later. This was the father of a friend of mine. He resembles a stroke patient in many way.
 
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Firearms trafficker who sold gun used in Tim Bosma killing sentenced to 11 years in prison | CBC News

Just came across this pic of MWJ, the thuggish firearms trafficker who sold guns to DM. Not realizing at the time when I first saw it that DMs father had also been shot through the eye, the photo takes a tone beyond creepiness.

Gun in one hand, a wad of folded money (I think?) in the other, I wonder did this photo motivate and portray DMs actions?
It is creepy that the gun dealer had this picture and DM also had a gruesome picture of a face with left eye injured. Then that the father died with a gunshot in the left eye.
I wonder how Laura was murdered.? DM liked to shoot people in the head.
The evidence in Tim Bosma s trial people said he was also shot in the head at close range.
Just a vile , vile animals both DM and MS .
 
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I hope there is more to come. I'm hoping there are letters.

The way I see it, the actual investigation of WM's murder started in May 2013. The current witnesses are providing video and photographic evidence of what the situation was back in Nov 2012, and providing evidence of why a homicide investigation was not opened at that time.

There should be a lot more to come from investigators who started looking into WM's death in May 2013. The difference being that they certainly would not have had the opportunity to interview MB and DM at that time. So it's important for them to get their interviews from 2012 into evidence which is what they are doing now. Same with the photographic evidence of the crime scene. They've only got what was taken back in 2012 and want it entered into evidence, as well as showing certain things were not done properly, as they should have been in a suspicious death investigation.

MOO
 
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Firearms trafficker who sold gun used in Tim Bosma killing sentenced to 11 years in prison | CBC News

Just came across this pic of MWJ, the thuggish firearms trafficker who sold guns to DM. Not realizing at the time when I first saw it that DMs father had also been shot through the eye, the photo takes a tone beyond creepiness.

Gun in one hand, a wad of folded money (I think?) in the other, I wonder did this photo motivate and portray DMs actions?

I believe MWJ also had a tattoo of an elderly man with a gunshot to the eye. I really believe there's more to this, some kind of symbol or deeper meaning in the "organized crime world". MOO
 
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It was kind of weird - the officer offered a 40 in response to DM's "what's bigger than a 26?", but DM's gestures seemed to describe a bottle more the size of a Texas mickey. If you drank a lot and were frugal, you might go for an economy size.
As far as I know in Canada there is no value saved by buying bigger bottles.
 
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Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 10m10 minutes ago
Court is now back in session. Det. Johnston is still in the witness box. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 10m10 minutes ago
She says Madeleine Burns, Millard's mother, was also not under "investigative detention." #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Burns finished giving her statement at 11:29 p.m. Johnston then went back to the Maple Gate home, and got there at 11:52 p.m. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
Johnston says she didn't tell Millard he had to sit at the station and wait for them to get back from Maple Gate. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Johnston says she went back to the home, and spoke with the coroner. He told her that Millard was pronounced dead at 7:04 p.m. He said an autopsy would be done on the body. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
The coroner again said to her that the way he was shot -- in the eye -- seemed suspicious, she says. #Millard
 
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