Wayne Millard Murder Trial - Dellen Millard Charged With Murder - #2

[6degrees]

I just realized this afternoon this trial was on so skimmed through the tweets recorded. This may have been pointed out but an inconsistency seems to be DM himself saying his dad had been "bedridden" after hurting his back but then supposedly being surprised to find his dad "still in bed" late in the afternoon when he came home.

I believe what DM had said that he "threw his back out" about 7-9 months ago and had spent a couple of months in bed at that time. He acknowledged that his father was now ambulatory although he did use the electric scooter to cover the distances in the hangar.

 

[CJPRINCESS]

She seems to have picked herself up and dusted herself off from this awful period in her life. She's now an assistant manager for a chain clothing retailer. If I recall correctly, I think AM and MH were both pretty truthful. I recall MH breaking down crying at one point while attempting why he initially lied to LE.

I cringe every time I hear/see AM’s name come up! I think he told half truths to save his own Azz! He’s just as sketchy as the friends he chose to follow!

 

[Tealgrove]

My take is that Pillay is just using everything he's got, or can manufacture, to discredit MM. He's throwing everything and hoping it will stick. Yes, she has lied. She has admitted to that when she got caught before. He's doing everything he can to confuse her and it doesn't take much. When all this was going on, MM was a train wreck. She was doing drugs, drinking, partying, living with a murdering abusive drug selling wanna be rapper, without a stable life. I wouldn't be able to remember everything from 5 years ago sober. Just imagine how memories got warped by drug use.

It remains, that MM is trying to do the right thing. She is what she is, but she's up there answering questions for the third time and taking another hit. Gotta give the girl credit. She's taking it on the chin and doing her best.

I believe her. I always have. Her memory maybe suspect at times, and she's in a self protective mode but I believe her.

I think the juries believed her in past trials and felt her testimony was credible.

I hope this Justice will believe her too.

MOO

 

[Tealgrove]

I only found it strange because it's not a store I'd picture WM shopping at. Yes they do sell mens clothes too, but not the kind of clothes WM wore. So it just seemed odd to have a bag like that in the house. Sort of like having an LCBO tote, if you're not a drinker.

I never considered that WM even shopped at Lululemon. I figured it was just a bag hanging around the house that he used for some reason. With all the different women coming and going it wouldn't surprise me if one of them brought the bag into the house.

If someone went through all the bags in my house, you'd probably be surprised by some of the labels on them. I've bags from all over the place and I have no idea how they got here.

 

[6degrees]

Here's something that bugs me. So far, everyone has testified that they didn't pick up the gun, just that the bag was pulled out from in between the bed and the dresser. However, if you look at the pic with WM blurred, you can see that the bag is standing upright. The other pic shows the bag sort of crumpled with the gun laying on the side of the bag - but it's been sthat pic of the gun on the bag is exactly how it was found.

Something is clearly off here.

Could it be that the photo we see with the bag crumbled and the gun on top was taken first sequentially and then the other photo we see with the bag standing up is after they've removed the gun to photograph it, secure it etc...?

 

[JoS13]

2. The reality is (as I believe DM murdered his father) WM's alcohol issue is merely a red herring tossed out by DM to serve as a pretext to suicide.

Very insightful comments, 6degrees.
RE: your second point... It caught my attention that, according to the paramedic and police testimonies, it seems like both DM and MB were in a hurry to mention WM's alcohol use immediately when the first responders arrived on the scene.

 

[chaines]

Only the defense can do this I believe. But I also think the Crown can re-cross when they do?

How is that even fair? So frustrating that so many rules in favour of the accused. If you are correct, then the Crown CANT bring up the fact that at a previous trial DM said the gun was a gift for his father.

Also, just thought of this, but if I was buying a gift for a depressed raging alcoholic, I don't think a gun would be at the top of my list! He's either lying or a moron, or both

 

[6degrees]

I noticed that as well, but I think it's a bath towel. It definitely looks like someone was sitting on it, but more than that, what stood out to me was seeing a pink bath towel in an elderly, single man's house. It just seems out of place. Like the Lululemon shopping bag(s).

Maybe along the same line of him not even knowing what type of bag he was carting stuff around in, maybe the pink towel is a hold over from when he and MB were still together. Not unlike Lulu Lemon, I can't necessarily see WM whiling away the hours strolling through Bed Bath & Beyond looking for new towels.

 

[6degrees]

I noticed the chair facing the bed. I feel like the towel is there because the seat of the chair is ripped/worn out. And yes, it looks like someone sat and watched him bleed out. Did that person snack on a bowl of cereal while watching? Below the other chair is what looks like a tiny stuffed animal?

Or maybe the towel is there for one of the cats to sit on. A comfy spot for them to sit, being close to WM while he's in his room?

 

[Kamille]

I never considered that WM even shopped at Lululemon. I figured it was just a bag hanging around the house that he used for some reason. With all the different women coming and going it wouldn't surprise me if one of them brought the bag into the house.

If someone went through all the bags in my house, you'd probably be surprised by some of the labels on them. I've bags from all over the place and I have no idea how they got here.

For those who missed some of our late night posts during the day off, it was discovered that there were 2 more Lululemon bags in DM's room at the time the photos were taken for the TB investigation in May 2013. One was, ironically, beside the bed and the other was on the other side of the room near CN's laptop.

 

[Claroon]

His Dad had been bedridden about 6-9 months before IIRC. So yes, it would be odd to see him in bed, covers pulled up in a sleeping position at 6:30pm when he was no longer bedridden all day and night I suppose.

MOO

older people nap, you might find me in bed at 6:30 ha ha

 

[Kamille]

Could it be that the photo we see with the bag crumbled and the gun on top was taken first sequentially and then the other photo we see with the bag standing up is after they've removed the gun to photograph it, secure it etc...?

I think the bag standing up picture is closer to how it was beside the bed. I think the gun was in the bag. I think the coroner pulled out the bag, someone pulled the gun out of the bag and it was placed down on the bag to be photographed.

DM sent an officer to the basement looking for a gun in a bag that he thought might be down there.

Two officers testified that the coroner held up the gun and bag in their presence. I believe them.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

I'll be out this afternoon and unable to post all of the tweets if anyone else is around to do it.

 

[Claroon]

For those who missed some of our late night posts during the day off, it was discovered that there were 2 more Lululemon bags in DM's room at the time the photos were taken for the TB investigation in May 2013. One was, ironically, beside the bed and the other was on the other side of the room near CN's laptop.

And as someone else has alluded to, maybe that wasn't even WM's regular bedroom, maybe a guest room a visitor left the bag in. speculation

 

[Claroon]

So too bad when LE interviewed him didn't ask if HE had any guns, only asked if WM had any.

We know DM obtained his from ISHO in February 2012.

 

[Claroon]

Here was DM's plan, obviously, to fire people and run it as a con-job-shop.

From BillAndrew's timeline Babcock, Millard, and Bosma Murders:

Dec 3 - Millard texts Smich: "Tomorrow I start firing people." Bosma Day 36: Harrison testimony

Dec 3 - Millard texts Smich: "Yea organizing a funeral and the layoff of 15 employees..." Bosma Day 36: Harrison testimony

Dec 3 - Millard texts Schlatman about changing the locks on the hangar doors. Bosma Day 36: Harrison testimony

Dec 3 - Millard texts Michalski about plans for business: "Shutting down the maintenance division, and renting hangar space." Bosma Day 36: Harrison testimony

Dec 6 - Millard texts Schlatman about picking him up as an employee of Millard Properties after everyone is fired.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I noticed the chair facing the bed. I feel like the towel is there because the seat of the chair is ripped/worn out. And yes, it looks like someone sat and watched him bleed out. Did that person snack on a bowl of cereal while watching? Below the other chair is what looks like a tiny stuffed animal?

Maybe DM elaborated in the obituary just then while calmly waiting?

 

[6degrees]

The "date" who shall remain forever nameless? Or has he scrounged up one of his groupies to take the fall and say it was her?

My guess is that nobody is lying for DM in 2018!

 

[Claroon]

I am speculating that WM with back injuries didn't need to go to the hangar often. Did business at his house so didn't know about the accumulation of stolen items. Finally, in Nov, took his date JC to look around:

Pretty soon, Wayne was calling her three or four times a day, Campbell said, and then that November, they met in person. He proudly showed her around the new hangar he had built at Waterloo Regional Airport for his business. Christie Blatchford: Victim had found love before his death, Millard’s trial hears

She pointed out it didn't look like an airplane hangar, but a car junk shop. WM ordered DM to clean it up and get rid of all that stuff, but that didn't fit with DM's ideas. WM went after the aircraft license himself and got it to get things moving infuriating DM.

Now, what I want to know is if indeed he was cleaning up the hangar, did he hang all the keys back up when he got back home just prior to finding his dad dead? Wonder if TB's key would have been hung there eventually? He didn't say they were backup keys as though there were other sets.

 

[matou]

My guess is that nobody is lying for DM in 2018!

Maybe his "date" was JS?