Wayne Millard Murder Trial - Dellen Millard Charged With Murder - #3

[Claroon]

I am going to venture to say that maybe b/c he the housekeeper hadn't found his body yet, that maybe AM could be the one to discover the body. Along the lines of I haven't heard from my Dad in a while could you go check on him, as AM just lived down the block, it wouldn't seem unreasonable. I think it is pretty clear he did not want to be the one to discover the body or make the 911 call.

I'm saying the same even before I read your post.

 

[Claroon]

Interesting to know what the story the family's lawyer was told.

I believe that lawyer went out of business in 2014. hmmm

 

[MistyWaters]

why would AM text him when he was with him?

I don’t recall the exact wording - anyone know, did DM say he called AM to come over to the house (and by extension, we’re just assuming he came)......or did he say that he called and AM came over to the house?

Adding original text. Given AM lived close to Maple Gate, this appears to me he was there and gone before he sent the second text. Hopefully he’ll be called to testify.

At 5:56 p.m. on Nov 29, Millard texts his friend Andrew Michalski and says: "bro please come over, I don't want to be alone, something terrible has happened." Michalski responds: "Ok Im coming." About 7:08 p.m., Michalski texts Millard: "Dude I'm sorry for not coming to see Wayne. I couldn't if you need ANYTHING let me know"
by Adam Carter 8:24 AM

 

[Jealoushe]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Ten mechanics had been hired to work with MillardAir, Woodward says. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 7m7 minutes ago
He says he first met Dellen Millard when he was about ten-years-old, walking around the MillardAir hangar at Pearson. He also knew him from working with MillardAir, where Dellen was at meetings. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
He also says MillardAir went to a trade show in Dallas to try to drum up customers as the hangar was being constructed. It wasn't licensed as an MRO yet at this point. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
We're now seeing the company's certificate of approval from Transport Canada. #Millard

 

[EspressoBean]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall seeing any evidence that showed DM was at the house at the time of death and we don't actually know what the time of death was. I know we heard that his phone pinged near their at a certain time but was that the time of death?
The DNA point is not really significant because we know he bought it and allegedly used it in July.
Also we haven't seen or heard what the taxi records show and for the record I personally don't believe a word MM says.
All I'm saying is that no evidence that has been made public has convinced me, but that's just how I feel atm but it doesn't mean that I think he didn't do it.

Evidence is there. Millard's phone called a taxi at 1am from Oakville and called a taxi again from Maplegate after 6am. That is aside from the phone pings that are during the time that is estimated by the coroner to be the time of death. Not to mention, this evidence contradicts what DM gave to police.

 

[Claroon]

Wish someone could tell us if WM was right or left handed.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I was reading about how to spot a liar. One is they sound rehearsed. Another is they add extra unnecessary detail. If I were being interviewed, I'd be gasping and saying "oh man..." every once in a while or pausing to think due to shock.

He was rehearsed IMO and the extra details were about his dog, getting a snack, getting a sweater, food dish. And if you find your dad dead, why do you have to go back to your bedroom for a minute? That's what he said, "I had to go back to my bedroom for a min." random imo

I don't know how I'd react to finding someone dead, but I might actually freak out and run into my room to get my head together. That said, DM didn't find his dad dead.

 

[Jealoushe]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Cameron is now asking questions about the business, and getting this certificate. It's quite technical stuff pertaining to the aviation industry. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
Cameron asks Woodward how Wayne Millard seemed after the certification came in. "He seemed very excited, very pleased," he says. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Woodward says he never really had any issues with Dellen Millard. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Woodward says they were trying to drum up business for the company, but everyone kept saying for them to give them a call once they were up and running. "Nobody wanted to be first, that was the problem," he says. #Millard

 

[banting]

Evidence is there. Millard's phone called a taxi at 1am from Oakville and called a taxi again from Maplegate after 6am. That is aside from the phone pings that are during the time that is estimated by the coroner to be the time of death. Not to mention, this evidence contradicts what DM gave to police.

Sorry if I haven't expressed myself well, but we have not seen DM's phone records nor the taxi logs, like we did in the other cases, so I don't see how we can be sure that is correct. I would like to see for instance the taxi logs showing the start and end of each journey and I don't understand why they haven't been presented.

 

[Jealoushe]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
The Crown now asking if Wayne Millard said why he was creating this business. "He said he'd like to build a business in aviation ... he always said he'd like to build up a business and then get it to a point where Dellen could carry it on," Woodward says. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
He says Wayne also never expressed any concerns about money to him. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
The Crown asks Woodward if he knew Wayne Millard to have any health problems. Woodward says he had a back problem that laid him out for quite a while. But towards the end of his life he was getting around in a scooter. #Millard

 

[Jealoushe]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
The last time he saw Millard before he died was at the hangar, on his scooter. He found out Wayne had died from a phone call from Dellen on Dec. 3. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Woodward says Dellen seemed fairly upset on the phone. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
"I was pretty shocked, to be quite honest," Woodward says. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Shane Schlatman was replacing the locks on the hangar on Dec. 3, Woodward says. He was told that was being done to keep John Barnes out of the hangar. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Woodward says he was also there for the meeting at the hangar on Dec. 4 when Dellen said he was shutting down the business. #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
He says employees were being laid off, but they would still be paid for a few weeks. Woodward says he never discussed keeping the business going with Dellen. #Millard

 

[Jasper52]

Sorry if I haven't expressed myself well, but we have not seen DM's phone records nor the taxi logs, like we did in the other cases, so I don't see how we can be sure that is correct. I would like to see for instance the taxi logs showing the start and end of each journey and I don't understand why they haven't been presented.

I don't think we are seeing a lot of evidence as there is no jury.

 

[MistyWaters]

Evidence is there. Millard's phone called a taxi at 1am from Oakville and called a taxi again from Maplegate after 6am. That is aside from the phone pings that are during the time that is estimated by the coroner to be the time of death. Not to mention, this evidence contradicts what DM gave to police.

I still wonder why during questioning by the defence, during cross-examination, MM admitted it was the Samsung that DM left at MSs the night she described. At this point in time we still don’t know which of his two phones pinged near Maple Gate but for sake of successful prosecution, I sure hope it wasn’t the Samsung.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
The last time he saw Millard before he died was at the hangar, on his scooter. He found out Wayne had died from a phone call from Dellen on Dec. 3. #Millard

(I can't be the only one who reads this as the actual cause of WM's death was a phone call from DM on 12/3... right?)

 

[deugirtni]

There's been some decent evidence revealed so far that I believe can lead to a conviction. DM was at his father's house at the time of the murder, based on cell phone records. The gun used was one that DM bought from a weapons dealer. His DNA was on the gun. WM had cleanen out his own guns prior to this.

DM's untroubled demenour after the death of his father has been noted.

There are taxi records of DM's coming and going during that night based on phone records. MM testified that DM stayed overnight with her and MS just one time, and that they walked DM to a convenience store that evening. She heard about WM's death after that night.

The housekeeper's statement has been entered into evidence. I'm sure that there is some useful info there, although it would be nice to read it.

The thing is.. and the main thing, as far as I can know????? Is that .... has it even been proven that WM was murdered in the first place???? It seems that the coroner came on the stand, who isn't the one who did the autopsy, and both of his reports, one done immediately and one done half a year later, both said he thought suicide, didn't they?? If the judge believes his determination, then there would be no murder to convict on???? One detective had suspicions, but yet the homicide department never ended up showing up, the scene was released, the COD was named as suicide within a day, and nothing further came of it.... until other things came to light about other cases.... which other cases aren't really allowed to be a part of the judgement-making in *this* trial, which is why it is a judge-only trial.

If it has been proven the man was murdered, then the judge can get on with, did DM murder him.

Did I miss something, or is that suicide/murder thing still undetermined????

 

[winter2017]

Wish someone could tell us if WM was right or left handed.

I read left handed but it is not verified.

 

[Jasper52]

(I can't be the only one who reads this as the actual cause of WM's death was a phone call from DM on 12/3... right?)

I don't read it that way at all. I read it as he found out about WM death via a phone call from DM.

 

[deugirtni]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
We're now seeing an email that Wayne Millard sent Barnes on Thursday Nov. 29 at 2:50 a.m. It's about this system. Millard says the figures Barnes gave at an earlier meeting about this system are false. He calls this "blatantly irresponsible." #Millard

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
Barnes says he was "quite offended" by this, and sent an email back, but didn't get a response. The big thing here is the time -- that email appears to show that Wayne Millard was alive on Nov. 29 at 2:50 a.m. #Millard

Could DM have gotten onto his dad's computer and sent that to stir the poop? Point a finger at Barnes?

Probably more to point the finger at 'look at this, my dad was very upset right at the time he killed himself, and on top of THAT, look at the last thing I had said to him'.. I don't think it was ever DM's intent to make it appear to be a murder committed by someone else. jmo.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don't read it that way at all. I read it as he found out about WM death via a phone call from DM.

Of course that's what it meant, it was just phrased in such a way that my brain automatically made it read that way.

 

[Jasper52]

I read left handed but it is not verified.

Someone posted that DM was left-handed. I've yet to see anything about WM though.