Weekend Discussion Thread 04/27-30/2012

[Ardy]

Wondergirl........great minds think alike.....

I was composing my post while you posted the same thing......lol.

 

[Macright]

Maybe he just needed the right partner to send him over the edge. There is always a first time for everything. JMO

except most rapist don't take a partner along with them....the few I have read about that took them with the help of a partner kept them alive for years..... two cases that I could list in the US but I won't because they have been through enough JMO

 

[Flowercb]

TLM = junkie
MR = addict

I am not sure that the hammer and gargbage bags were purchased with the intent of killing VS. TLM house looked liked someone was trying to fix it up ... Besides even the LE asked TLM why they put VS in garbage bags if they planned to leave VS there ... And MR had a hammer in the trunk why another one

So they decided to pick up a few home improvement items while kidnapping Tori?

 

[SFB73]

So they decided to pick up a few home improvement items while kidnapping Tori?

Of course! Since home depot doesn't carry a wrecking ball and dumpster, TLM settled for a hammer and garbage bags.... i guess she could always pick up the nails and wood later....

 

[Bravo]

Anyone having a trial sleepover?!

I have to ask (shrug) What is that?

 

[Bravo]

Of course! Since home depot doesn't carry a wrecking ball and dumpster, TLM settled for a hammer and garbage bags.... i guess she could always pick up the nails and wood later....

Heck why didn't they all go in???? After all Tori was just being babysat. Why didn't they treat her at Tim Hortons? Babysitters do that kind of thing. Murderers do exactly what MJR and TLM did. Bouncing off your post.

 

[Wondergirl]

Wondergirl........great minds think alike.....

I was composing my post while you posted the same thing......lol.

Maybe we can all get together after the trial tomorrow for a hot cup 'o tea?!

Do you prefer Earl Grey or Tetley?!

lol

 

[Ardy]

except most rapist don't take a partner along with them....the few I have read about that took them with the help of a partner kept them alive for years..... two cases that I could list in the US but I won't because they have been through enough JMO

I can't recall any other case, where the rapist took along a witness either, especially one that they didn't particularly have an attachment for and didn't plan to be with for the rest of their life.

PB and KH were partners in their crimes, but they were married and thought they would live together forever. They also didn't drive around with the abductee in the car, visiting people to buy drugs and chat, and stopping at Tim Hortons for a tea.

This is one weird case...........and I don't think we know all the facts yet.

Perhaps Derstine busts it open tomorrow and things start to fall into place.

We shall see...........................

JMO..........

 

[Sillybilly]

except most rapist don't take a partner along with them....the few I have read about that took them with the help of a partner kept them alive for years..... two cases that I could list in the US but I won't because they have been through enough JMO

Sadists? Cannibals? Murderers? Rapists? Menendez brothers, Leopold and Loeb, Harris and Klebold, Bonnie and Clyde, Buono and Bianchi, etc, etc. IMO, pick any infamous duo and it basically comes down to the perfect storm:

from:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...38jAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cGUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1158,4912988

"... the insanity might be in their interaction together ther than their state of mind alone." <Jack Levin>

 

[Hello_Kitty]

respectfully...I gather you know that for a fact Otto... (that TS did not know her kidnappers) I believe IMO that she did in fact know one and that was the one who led her from her school and later decided to murder her...that I know as fact..the actual murderer because she (TLM) testified to that action in court...JMO but anything else is just my opinion and I would never state anything as fact without further knowledge..just my own opinion.... just saying.........

Do YOU know for a fact that she did know her kidnappers? The evidence actually tells us she didn't. If you think you know that she did know her kidnappers, it'd be nice if you could produce the evidence. Respectfully.

 

[Sillybilly]

So they decided to pick up a few home improvement items while kidnapping Tori?

If TLM simply needed garbage bags for domestic use, she could have purchased them while at Foodland earlier that day.

 

[Hello_Kitty]

I can't recall any other case, where the rapist took along a witness either, especially one that they didn't particularly have an attachment for and didn't plan to be with for the rest of their life.

PB and KH were partners in their crimes, but they were married and thought they would live together forever. They also didn't drive around with the abductee in the car, visiting people to buy drugs and chat, and stopping at Tim Hortons for a tea.

This is one weird case...........and I don't think we know all the facts yet.

Perhaps Derstine busts it open tomorrow and things start to fall into place.

We shall see...........................

JMO..........

How do we know that TLM and MR didn't know eachother more than we know about, maybe they had secret devil rituals in the woods or something Maybe they belonged to the same devil worship club.

 

[flipflop]

respectfully...I gather you know that for a fact Otto... (that TS did not know her kidnappers) I believe IMO that she did in fact know one and that was the one who led her from her school and later decided to murder her...that I know as fact[/B]..the actual murderer because she (TLM) testified to that action in court...JMO but anything else is just my opinion and I would never state anything as fact without further knowledge..just my own opinion.... just saying.........

Do you have a link or proof that this is a fact?

 

[Bravo]

I'm not even sure i understand the debate as to whether Tori new her abductors or not. I dont believe she did. Ultimately she ended up dead while in the custody of MJR and TLM. End of story. MOO

 

[tmhco]

except most rapist don't take a partner along with them....the few I have read about that took them with the help of a partner kept them alive for years..... two cases that I could list in the US but I won't because they have been through enough JMO

I would tend to disagree. Here is a link to several murderous duos. Male and female. Just the right combination of depravity that may have never acted on their fantasies without the encouragement from the other. JMO

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/partners/index.html

 

[Tahorn]

So they decided to pick up a few home improvement items while kidnapping Tori?

Hey why not ... they picked drugs, chit chat with a friend, TH and HD.

 

[matou]

Maybe we can all get together after the trial tomorrow for a hot cup 'o tea?!

Do you prefer Earl Grey or Tetley?!

lol

I would love to join in but I have to stay where I am. I would be too freaked out to be in the courtroom with him there. JMO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

I'm not even sure i understand the debate as to whether Tori new her abductors or not. I dont believe she did. Ultimately she ended up dead while in the custody of MJR and TLM. End of story. MOO

Bravo, <modsnip>. However, if she did, that may point to a motive for murder, that of revenge or drug debt. IMO

 

[Heliotrope]

I think that tomorrow we have to steel ourselves for a whole lot of "A lie repeated often enough will become the truth." (I can't take credit for that - thank Lenin.)

The defence doesn't have to produce any evidence of anything they suggest or postulate or imagine - they just have to take a line, any line, and repeat it frequently.

<modsnip>

 

[Bravo]

I found watching their interactions quite telling (MJR and TLM) on video. There is a dance going on between them. Sick but a dance.