Wesley Hadsell Arrested 21-22 March 2015

[CookieM]

Here is something interesting:

http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/23/blake-ford-vehicle-recovered-by-police/

"One of the two vehicles stolen last month from Blake Ford in Franklin was recovered on Wednesday afternoon at the property on which the body of a missing Norfolk teen was discovered earlier this year. Franklin Police Department spokesman Capt. Tim Whitt said a local television station was filming a follow-up story on the disappearance and subsequent discovery of Anjelica “A.J.” Hadsell at 34160 Smith’s Ferry Road when they found the abandoned 2014 White Ford Expedition behind the uninhabited home."


Sorry if I am in the wrong thread, or if already posted.

What the heck?? How weird is that??

 

[katydid23]

Here is something interesting:

http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/23/blake-ford-vehicle-recovered-by-police/

"One of the two vehicles stolen last month from Blake Ford in Franklin was recovered on Wednesday afternoon at the property on which the body of a missing Norfolk teen was discovered earlier this year. Franklin Police Department spokesman Capt. Tim Whitt said a local television station was filming a follow-up story on the disappearance and subsequent discovery of Anjelica “A.J.” Hadsell at 34160 Smith’s Ferry Road when they found the abandoned 2014 White Ford Expedition behind the uninhabited home."


Sorry if I am in the wrong thread, or if already posted.

Wow. So is this a well known dump site now? I would think that thieves would stay away since LE has called it a crime scene. Very weird.

 

[hey-Debbie]

Here is something interesting:

http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/23/blake-ford-vehicle-recovered-by-police/

"One of the two vehicles stolen last month from Blake Ford in Franklin was recovered on Wednesday afternoon at the property on which the body of a missing Norfolk teen was discovered earlier this year. Franklin Police Department spokesman Capt. Tim Whitt said a local television station was filming a follow-up story on the disappearance and subsequent discovery of Anjelica “A.J.” Hadsell at 34160 Smith’s Ferry Road when they found the abandoned 2014 White Ford Expedition behind the uninhabited home."


Sorry if I am in the wrong thread, or if already posted.

Thank you. This is a great find. I wouldn't imagine that it would be very easy to just randomly steal cars anymore. How weird it was found there. Wonder when it was stolen.

 

[Globalgabby]

Here is something interesting:

http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/23/blake-ford-vehicle-recovered-by-police/

"One of the two vehicles stolen last month from Blake Ford in Franklin was recovered on Wednesday afternoon at the property on which the body of a missing Norfolk teen was discovered earlier this year. Franklin Police Department spokesman Capt. Tim Whitt said a local television station was filming a follow-up story on the disappearance and subsequent discovery of Anjelica “A.J.” Hadsell at 34160 Smith’s Ferry Road when they found the abandoned 2014 White Ford Expedition behind the uninhabited home."


Sorry if I am in the wrong thread, or if already posted.

We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried. Oh how I do wish that this case was a (bizarre) fiction novel, though, instead of a story of a very real loss of life.

This is Off Topic, but weirdly, just last night, I stumbled across this "Tidewater News" website. I was searching some missing children sites because one of my former students is missing from Chula Vista, CA http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1256330. I accidentally stumbled across this same online paper because I saw a missing poster from Franklin, VA --- there is a girl from Franklin missing. http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/24/franklin-police-seek-help-to-find-missing-girl/ .

To be clear, I am not associating this with AJ's case in any way. It just seems that every time I turn around, I run into another missing child or runaway situation. Sigh.

 

[Latestforever]

What the heck?? How weird is that??

Wow. So is this a well known dump site now? I would think that thieves would stay away since LE has called it a crime scene. Very weird.

Thank you. This is a great find. I wouldn't imagine that it would be very easy to just randomly steal cars anymore. How weird it was found there. Wonder when it was stolen.

I have no idea if or how this is related. I just thought I would do a search for AJ and this came up and wanted to throw it out to you sleuthers to chew on.😀

 

[Latestforever]

is this the vehicle thefts reported?:


http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/09/19/cars-equipment-stolen-from-blake-ford/

 

[Ontario Mom]

Zach,
I really appreciate you coming here and expressing your thoughts and feelings. Please feel free to roll and scroll if you feel like it. You do not have to answer every post. JMO

The thanks button just wasn't enough.

 

[Zach]

Zach, I was just wondering. You mentioned about the one witness maybe making a mistake about the day he saw AJ driving the red truck. I mean that would have had to have been another week she was home previously and that would have been when she came home the few weeks before. A few weeks is a lot to get mixed up on in memory. If WH was supposed to drop off the truck than that would have been the first day she was able to drive it that week she came home. So that witness would have had to been off their memory by weeks. But also what about the other witness that saw the white car that day behind the truck? Do they think that witness if off on their days too? Just wondering because I think WH went into this elaborate story about how the truck was parked in the wrong spot in the driveway.

I don't know that she didn't have the truck all weekend. From my understanding, the truck is always parked at the house, but I don't know for sure. So it could have been during the weekend or earlier in that day. So I am not sure about 'Wes dropping off the truck', or where that information came from. I believe it was from the Chelsea Hoffman interview but I think that was misinterpreted. I would have to relisten. Not sure how Wes can drop off the truck alone, while driving the van regularly. And after talking to the guy who saw the white car parked at the house, I believe he may be incorrect about his dates as well. I would have to look at my notes but the position he described the truck and white car to be in could not have been from that day, as best as I could tell. The police have spoken with these witnesses and know the full scoop and from news reports, they still seem to think Wes is the guy.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I have no idea if or how this is related. I just thought I would do a search for AJ and this came up and wanted to throw it out to you sleuthers to chew on.��

No doubt pretty much *everyone* in the local area has seen that house on the local news and knows where it is. I don't suspect it's anything more than that. Whoever the idiot is that dumped the car there likely figured it's a forgotten scene at this point, considering how long it's been.

 

[hey-Debbie]

I don't know that she didn't have the truck all weekend. From my understanding, the truck is always parked at the house, but I don't know for sure. So it could have been during the weekend or earlier in that day. So I am not sure about 'Wes dropping off the truck', or where that information came from. I believe it was from the Chelsea Hoffman interview but I think that was misinterpreted. I would have to relisten. Not sure how Wes can drop off the truck alone, while driving the van regularly. And after talking to the guy who saw the white car parked at the house, I believe he may be incorrect about his dates as well. I would have to look at my notes but the position he described the truck and white car to be in could not have been from that day, as best as I could tell. The police have spoken with these witnesses and know the full scoop and from news reports, they still seem to think Wes is the guy.

Thank you, Zach. I think it was from that interview. I think all of us heard that Wes was dropping the truck to the house and leaving the keys in the mailbox on Monday morning because she had plans on Tuesday and was picking up his work truck. Just my thinking here (why would he drop off just keys and not the vehicle because I am sure Jennifer or even AJ had keys if she used it all the time before.) I'm not sure where the info came from but I believe the thinking was that Wes didn't park his work vehicle at the hotel but left it at the house and used the truck in between work. I think all of that info cam from Wes though. That's why things are so confusing because it seems what little info is out there - as we are finding out - can't be confirmed by anyone.

 

[Zach]

Zach asked:





Just because Zach is an "insider" or the fact that he was at the house the day they removed AJ certainly doesn't mean he knows more than most about this specific question. Which may explain why he said "maybe some insider in LE could message me". Obviously he doesn't have the answers he's looking for, or he wouldn't have asked. In fact, if memory serves, I believe he stated he was there when they took her away (I'll assume in the ME vehicle).

As for his specific questions:

1. I believe it was stated she was located just behind the house. MSM reports showed several arial shots of an evidence tent set up right near the back of the house, so that explains where she was. This is one of the images from WAVY that show how close to the house she was (if the evidence tent is any indication, and generally the area where a person is found is covered for protection against elements and prying eyes)

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2. It's never been disclosed publicly what her condition was or how long she'd been there.
3. It's also never been disclosed publicly if she was restrained in any way.

I can only imagine NOT having these answers is as hard as having them. I know I'd want to know, but I wouldn't want to know too.

ok. ugh. that's a window, not a door. i thought maybe she was inside. ok. I really have the feeling she passed before she got to that house. I really hope it was quick. her being outside might mean it was a quick drop off instead of something else. i guess that's better. this is disgusting.

thank you very much.

 

[Zach]

Respectfully, I did not assume or insert any thoughts. I quoted your comment, and said that confused me. At the time you posted on this forum of your first thoughts, AJ was still just a Missing Person. Many questioned you as to why that was your first thoughts (OD).
But again the part you stated I assumed, was here



Your original post here at WS about you thinking drugs, April 7, 2015 #615, http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...rfolk-3-March-2015-12&p=11665748#post11665748

ok. well it was clear you were looking for a way to put Wes in the clear, which is fine, if there is something factual and it was also clear that you suspected I might have more knowledge than I'm alluding to and that's fine too except that (to me) it's a waste of time cause it's not true and there's no facts to suggest it. I don't mind being scrutinized but back it up with something so I can respond. The quote from Apr 7 was just me speculating about drug use. That is completely normal and not indicative of me hiding something.

 

[Zach]

Here is something interesting:

http://www.tidewaternews.com/2015/10/23/blake-ford-vehicle-recovered-by-police/

"One of the two vehicles stolen last month from Blake Ford in Franklin was recovered on Wednesday afternoon at the property on which the body of a missing Norfolk teen was discovered earlier this year. Franklin Police Department spokesman Capt. Tim Whitt said a local television station was filming a follow-up story on the disappearance and subsequent discovery of Anjelica “A.J.” Hadsell at 34160 Smith’s Ferry Road when they found the abandoned 2014 White Ford Expedition behind the uninhabited home."


Sorry if I am in the wrong thread, or if already posted.

Wow. Thanks. That's weird. That makes me think this house is known to people, because it looks occupied at first glance and there are other abandoned houses around that could be used to dump a vehicle. When I visited it, it didn't appear to be used by vagrants or a party house or anything like that. neighbors are almost a 1/4 mile away. I wonder if someone just visited the house and discovered her and that's how they found out - about Anjelica.

 

[Ontario Mom]

ok. ugh. that's a window, not a door. i thought maybe she was inside. ok. I really have the feeling she passed before she got to that house. I really hope it was quick. her being outside might mean it was a quick drop off instead of something else. i guess that's better. this is disgusting.

thank you very much.

Yes, it IS disgusting Zach. No matter how she ended up out at that house. I have the same feeling that she was gone before she was left there as well. And if it's any consolation, I hope that with enough drug in her system, she didn't even know. You know what I mean? I pray this is the case, that she didn't even know, felt no pain, and just went to sleep.

That was hard to type, and will probably be hard to read, but this is my hope for her, in her final moments.

 

[Ontario Mom]

When I first saw this house on the news (and then google street viewed it) I was a little taken aback by the media calling it a "dilapidated" house. Obviously, it's not. Yes the lawn was overgrown but it doesn't look as bad as the media made it sound like. I'm sure like all the rest of us, I really want to know WHO knew that house was vacant, and HOW they knew it was vacant, and that it was safe to leave AJ there, assuming she'd not be found. If that person was WH then so be it, let the face justice for what he did.

 

[CookieM]

When I first saw this house on the news (and then google street viewed it) I was a little taken aback by the media calling it a "dilapidated" house. Obviously, it's not. Yes the lawn was overgrown but it doesn't look as bad as the media made it sound like. I'm sure like all the rest of us, I really want to know WHO knew that house was vacant, and HOW they knew it was vacant, and that it was safe to leave AJ there, assuming she'd not be found. If that person was WH then so be it, let the face justice for what he did.

Maybe the interior of the house was in bad shape and that's why they referred to it as dilapidated. From the outside it didn't look too run down, but maybe it had been rented previously and torn up inside. The media made it sound like it wasn't a house people would be hanging around in. At least not comfortably. Maybe that was the impression they were trying to give and that's why they described it that way. I wonder if it had been a previous foreclosure.

Just thinking and rambling...
I think she was deceased before being brought to the house. I also do not think this would have been a "party house," because that would mean she could be found sooner.
I do have this nagging feeling that she was "meant to be found" though, because otherwise, like Zach said, there would have been other more hidden places to have put her.
JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Maybe the interior of the house was in bad shape and that's why they referred to it as dilapidated. From the outside it didn't look too run down, but maybe it had been rented previously and torn up inside. The media made it sound like it wasn't a house people would be hanging around in. At least not comfortably. Maybe that was the impression they were trying to give and that's why they described it that way. I wonder if it had been a previous foreclosure.

Just thinking and rambling...
I think she was deceased before being brought to the house. I also do not think this would have been a "party house," because that would mean she could be found sooner.
I do have this nagging feeling that she was "meant to be found" though, because otherwise, like Zach said, there would have been other more hidden places to have put her.
JMO

I hadn't really thought about the inside of the house but I guess that's certainly possible. I don't see it as a party house either. A party house "out in the country" is 10-15 minute drive away, not an hour. That's just too inconvenient for a "party house". I don't know if she was meant to be found by putting her there. Not sure we'll ever know.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I went to the house today. Does anybody out there know anything about where she was on the property or her condition or how long she had been passed? Maybe some insider in LE could message me. I really want to know. Was she tied up or put in the house or dumped in the yard haphazardly? Any info please. The way things are going, we won't know anything til a trial happens which might be two or three years. I just want to be able to face it all and work through it, and not have it keep coming in little bits.

In the photographs of the house, where you see the blue tent in the back, is where her remains were found, Zach. Several things can be deduced from that. We know that AJ's body wasn't discovered right away, so it's clear her body wasn't just lying out in the open there. In several photographs of the crime scene, we see boards outside the tent. LE didn't bring those boards with them, so obviously they originally came from the spot under the tent. We also see what looks to be a police container (looks like a trash can) with bags inside. I believe those bags contained soil samples. In a few photographs, you can also see what appears to be a hose of some type. I would guess this was used to syphon off water, but that's just a guess. My personal opinion, based strictly on what I've observed, is that AJ's remains were placed in a shallow trench and boards placed over the top. Whether this was done in the beginning or was done later, I have no earthly idea, but my gut tells me it was done later, out of panic.

I'm not really sure you wanted to hear my thoughts on this, Zach, but I offer them because you asked, and because I think you have a right to hear them.

 

[Happyshoes]

If I were the owner of that house, I would certainly want to know who is dumping bodies and stolen cars on my property. That is beyond strange to me that someone recently went there to dump something they didn't want to be caught with. Hope you guys (locals) will keep us informed on this hinky deal. Did they find the other car?

 

[SavvyRose]

I think that's a good deduction Happyshoes. But, if she were buried, it seems that her Manner of death should be determined as murder. Did we ever hear the manner of death?