What happened to Rebecca Zahau?

[dovebar]

Or maybe he suddenly came into money.

 

[time]

It is a condo in Shelby County/Memphis, and he paid about !50K - so a very modest home. Maybe all the trash talking that was done on the boards about the "dump" he was renting before embarrassed him enough to finally become a home owner.

(The facts are as I remember them from HM).

So, it's worth $50k but he paid $10 for it?

LCM said...

"The real estate transaction seemed a bit odd at first, because the deed was given in consideration of ten dollars."

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

That should have been 150k. Which is a modest condo in Memphis, and he should make good money as a Barge Tow Captain. The $10 is just something that is done in some real estate transactions...it is a "in good faith" payment for the rest while it is going through the bank or some such nonsense. I had to do the same think when I bought my house. It doesn't mean that he paid $10 total for the condo.

 

[Just Checking]

Who knows what happened here in this horrible situation for all involved or related? The full LE report is available only to attorneys and even then it isnt like a file is handed over with absolutely all the collaborating relevent material. Nothing is what it appears in this case. There are alot of questions for both Shacknai's and about RZ. This board and others like it offer the opportunity for those interested to sleuth and discuss - which is great! Let's hope, if the case is reopened, that justice is actually achieved.

 

[Charterhouse]

Was everything that SDSO collected given to AB? Or should I say should everything have been given to AB? Can they hold anything back?

 

[arielilane]

Thus far, regarding the results of the poll:

It was a murder committed by someone angry about Max's accident.

Has really taken the lead.

 

[Just Checking]

Anne Bremner received all the files.

Oh, how can you state this with certainty? Have you spoke with her CA attorney or with her? Do you now speak for the Shacknai family and AB? Interesting?

 

[screecher]

Anne Bremner received all the files.

Link please.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

It's been more than a month since the San Diego County Sheriff's Department turned over its case files to attorneys representing the family of Rebecca Zahau; the woman who died at the Spreckels mansion in Coronado.

The Sheriff's records include extensive written reports, as well as audio and video recordings of witness interviews, 911 calls, and a polygraph examination.

The records have been in possession of Zahau family attorney Anne Bremner since the end of October but not a single document has been released to the media or made public.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/16194812/sheriff-warns-zahau-attorney-case-file-may-be-opened

 

[screecher]

Ah! Well we all know news outlets don't always print ALL the info. It failed to mention AB or Rebecca's family didn't receive her phone and computer back. Wonder why that is.

 

[Wendy101]

Thus far, regarding the results of the poll:

It was a murder committed by someone angry about Max's accident.

Has really taken the lead.

interesting polling results.

now, I sit here and think, WHO is angry about Maxie's accident? probably his mom and his dad.

So next question would be, which one would murder Rebecca or have her killed? Which parent has accepted that Maxie's death was an accident? that would be Jonah. Dina is publicly accusing Rebecca of murdering Max..

Also, the way Rebecca was left hanging NUDE reeks of a jealous female.. Someone who was jealous of Rebecca's beauty.

my answer of the two, would be Dina arranged the murder.

Again, Jonah may have done it or had it done, but, Dina seems to be the one holding the rage and jealousy since Jonah and Rebecca became an item.

 

[katydid23]

interesting polling results.

now, I sit here and think, WHO is angry about Maxie's accident? probably his mom and his dad.

So next question would be, which one would murder Rebecca or have her killed? Which parent has accepted that Maxie's death was an accident? that would be Jonah. Dina is publicly accusing Rebecca of murdering Max..

Also, the way Rebecca was left hanging NUDE reeks of a jealous female.. Someone who was jealous of Rebecca's beauty.

my answer of the two, would be Dina arranged the murder.

Again, Jonah may have done it or had it done, but, Dina seems to be the one holding the rage and jealousy since Jonah and Rebecca became an item.

Imo, IF Dina had killed RZ, she would not be holding onto this anger and rage. I think she would have had some 'closure.' It seems to me she would be laying low, if she had murdered someone. Not going to LE and asking to reopen the investigation.

You asked above, " who would be angry about Maxies accident?" Maybe RZ would have been angry in the aftermath. Afterall, she was squeezed out right afterwards. Banned from the hospital, ignored by Jonah, and then she watched him bond with Dina. Maybe RZ was the one with the most unresolved anger after the tragic death of Maxie.

 

[katydid23]

Ah! Well we all know news outlets don't always print ALL the info. It failed to mention AB or Rebecca's family didn't receive her phone and computer back. Wonder why that is.

Maybe there was important information retrieved from those items.

 

[freespeech]

Imo, IF Dina had killed RZ, she would not be holding onto this anger and rage. I think she would have had some 'closure.' It seems to me she would be laying low, if she had murdered someone. Not going to LE and asking to reopen the investigation.

You asked above, " who would be angry about Maxies accident?" Maybe RZ would have been angry in the aftermath. Afterall, she was squeezed out right afterwards. Banned from the hospital, ignored by Jonah, and then she watched him bond with Dina. Maybe RZ was the one with the most unresolved anger after the tragic death of Maxie.

BBM

I wouldn't think murdering someone would bring closure. I would think it would bring torment via guilt and her fearing retribution from God, the law and society in general.

Also if Dina did murder Rebecca in a rage then she must continually justify her action to be able to live with it. Since she may realize on some level that she made a mistake and lost control of herself she will now need to forever more avoid reality.

That sounds like a horrible life to me no matter how much money you have. Plus if she is loony tunes then she is already a drain on those around her. Actually, I think this is a tragedy of epic proportions.

I totally believe what happened to Rebecca was horribly criminal on multiple levels. The lies about her are like the heads on a hydra. As soon as you lop one off two or three more grow in it's place. Dina may have a tormented soul but her deeds have been wicked...imo.

 

[freespeech]

Imo, IF Dina had killed RZ, she would not be holding onto this anger and rage. I think she would have had some 'closure.' It seems to me she would be laying low, if she had murdered someone. Not going to LE and asking to reopen the investigation.

You asked above, " who would be angry about Maxies accident?" Maybe RZ would have been angry in the aftermath. Afterall, she was squeezed out right afterwards. Banned from the hospital, ignored by Jonah, and then she watched him bond with Dina. Maybe RZ was the one with the most unresolved anger after the tragic death of Maxie.

I wouldn't think murdering someone would bring closure. I would think it would bring torment via guilt and her fearing retribution from God, the law and society in general.

Also if Dina did murder Rebecca in a rage then she must continually justify her action to be able to live with it. Since she may realize on some level that she made a mistake and lost control of herself she will now need to forever more avoid reality.

That sounds like a horrible life to me no matter how much money you have. Plus if she is loony tunes then she is already a drain on those around her. Actually, I think this is a tragedy of epic proportions.

I totally believe what happened to Rebecca was horribly criminal on multiple levels. The lies about her are like the heads on a hydra. As soon as you lop one off two or three more grow in it's place. Dina may have a tormented soul but her deeds have been wicked...imo.

 

[gypsychild]

interesting polling results.

now, I sit here and think, WHO is angry about Maxie's accident? probably his mom and his dad.

So next question would be, which one would murder Rebecca or have her killed? Which parent has accepted that Maxie's death was an accident? that would be Jonah. Dina is publicly accusing Rebecca of murdering Max..

Also, the way Rebecca was left hanging NUDE reeks of a jealous female.. Someone who was jealous of Rebecca's beauty.

my answer of the two, would be Dina arranged the murder.

Again, Jonah may have done it or had it done, but, Dina seems to be the one holding the rage and jealousy since Jonah and Rebecca became an item.

IMO if she killed or arranged to have someone killed, the LAST thing she would want is to have the case(s) reopened or to draw any attention to it. Also gunning for RZ the way she has would make her the first person on the suspect list.
No, I am more suspicious of the dogs that didn't bark.

 

[greenpalm]

I would add that all the attention the media & public payed towards Rebecca's suspicious death put a shadow over Maxie's death.

That could be infuriating to Dina regardless of how Rebecca died.

 

[bourne]

IMO if she killed or arranged to have someone killed, the LAST thing she would want is to have the case(s) reopened or to draw any attention to it. Also gunning for RZ the way she has would make her the first person on the suspect list.
No, I am more suspicious of the dogs that didn't bark.

There are narcissistic killers who crave attention and need validation for their "works of art" aka murders. Example: Luka Magnotta the Canadian cannibal murderer. Some narcissists even go out of their way to vociferously deny involvement in murder to the media but continue to act out and eventually get caught, e.g., Bob Bashara.

In Cognitive Therapy of Personality Disorders, Aaron T. Beck, Arthur Freeman, et. al lists the following traits for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (pp. 361-362):

"Since I am so superior, I am entitled to special treatment and privileges.
I don't have to be bound by the rules that apply to other people.
If others don't respect my status, they should be punished.
Other people should satisfy my needs.
Other people should recognize how special I am.
Since I am so talented, people should go out of their way to promote my career.
No one's needs should interfere with my own."

 

[time]

There are narcissistic killers who crave attention and need validation for their "works of art" aka murders. Example: Luka Magnotta the Canadian cannibal murderer. Some narcissists even go out of their way to vociferously deny involvement in murder to the media but continue to act out and eventually get caught, e.g., Bob Bashara.

In Cognitive Therapy of Personality Disorders, Aaron T. Beck, Arthur Freeman, et. al lists the following traits for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (pp. 361-362):

"Since I am so superior, I am entitled to special treatment and privileges.
I don't have to be bound by the rules that apply to other people.
If others don't respect my status, they should be punished.
Other people should satisfy my needs.
Other people should recognize how special I am.
Since I am so talented, people should go out of their way to promote my career.
No one's needs should interfere with my own."

Thanks for chiming in... also narcissists can go into a narcissistic rage:

www.buzzle.com/articles/narcissistic-rage.html
"Severe rage is a way in which a narcissistic individual takes out his anger against people who have hurt his ego"

samvak.tripod.com/journal86.html
"The narcissist reacts with narcissistic rage to narcissistic injury."

www.livestrong.com/article/103707-causes-narcissistic-rage/
"Narcissistic rage occurs when the person with narcissism perceives he's being attacked by another."


Narcissistic Supply (feed)

lightshouse.org/lights-blog/narcissistic-supply-2

Simply put, narcissistic supply is anything (or anyone) that feeds the narcissist's ego and keeps them artificially pumped up with the attention

... Narcissists need attention (and sometimes pity) and want complete agreement with their wishes. They ignore or oppose people who refuse to supply them with these things, and they turn their attention instead to those who can offer these three things in unlimited supply.

Young children make excellent sources of supply

 

[stmarysmead]

IMO if she killed or arranged to have someone killed, the LAST thing she would want is to have the case(s) reopened or to draw any attention to it. Also gunning for RZ the way she has would make her the first person on the suspect list.
No, I am more suspicious of the dogs that didn't bark.

I agree. What could be more delicious than murdering your "enemy" and getting away with it? Futhermore, I can't see DS heading over to her ex-husband's house in the dead of night to attempt the complicated murder of his martial arts trained girlfriend whose sister is also in the house. I personally would not have had much expectation that DS would come out of that situation unscathed.


If this was "staged" it was quite a lengthy and involved process. Did she bring the spray paint with her? Were there Injuries on DS that could not be explained? Would not RZ have defended herself? How about staging the hanging etc? Lots of physical tasks to pull this off...and DS did all this with no outcry from RZ, no commotion being heard? That would be worthy of the most highly trained KGB operative.

And if she hired someone , was that hired killer going to hang around and risk HIS neck by spraypainting messages on the door and hanging his victim? Certainly complicates his job.

I think ....in my fiction writing...which is all any of us can do...is that the answer is in that lost voicemail and in the dynamics between JS and RZ after his son was gravely injured.

At the moment, I believe that was an accident. But grieving parents will assess blame even in accidents. Dina had TOLD him she did not want RZ alone with Max. JS probably thought she was ridiculous but now their son was dying and his ex-wife was looking at him across the child's bedside with "I-told-you-so" eyes. Did he tell RZ that he wanted HER out of the house....is that why the dog was put in a kennel and her sister sent home.? Did she shop with her sister because she felt her comfortable life with JS was coming to an end?

Was the voice message something to the effect ..."Max is being taken off life support. When I get home tommorrow...I want you gone."

This does not mean that RZ and JS were not blissfully happy BEFORE..or that she was in any way responsible...but a life changing event had occured and she may have been a momentary and convenient scapegoat. AS seems to move from one woman to the next even without tragedy. Maybe RZ realized, her life with HIM was over...and to her, that meant HER life might as well be over.

She took the time to prepare. She left a message that I think JS understood.

I don't see any murders here. Just tragedies.