WHAT Has Been Said & By WHOM... That Baffles You? (aka Oh No They Didn't!)

[LCoastMom]

The way Kiomarie recanted her story to LE when asked to provide phone records, and the mysterious unlocatable "other Casey".
Kiomarie is the neighbor and schoolmate of Casey's who had also worked at Universal in the past, like Casey. Very early in the missing child case, Kiomarie called LE and said (a) that she thought Caylee could be deceased and buried in woods down by the elementary school, and (b) the detailed story about running into Casey A in a store and telling her if she ever needed help with anything to give her a call, and then subsequently getting a phone call from Casey A on July 9, 2008, in which Casey asked to borrow money to get away from a boyfriend. She said she heard Caylee talking to Casey during this phone call on July 9. She said she told Casey, sure I'm happy to lend you the money, just tell me where to bring it, but that Casey called back and said don't worry, my mother is giving me money.
When LE followed up to get Kiomarie's phone records to verify the calls, Kiomarie said, woops, she had been mistaken, it was a completely different friend Casey who had called her, (Casey W.) She said she'd worked with Casey W. at Disney in the past, and that Casey W also has a young daughter, Abby. Kio said that Casey W's phone number was now out of service (she told LE a phone number, which came up out of service or unassigned). She said she didn't know Casey W's former address (maybe someplace behind Disney with her mom) and now she's moved out of state but whereabouts unknown. When the officer mentioned looking for Casey W through driver's license records, Kio said she didn't think Casey W ever had a license, she takes the bus. etc (As far as we've seen, IIRC, we never saw that phone records were provided by Kio or the mysterious "other Casey" ever verified or interviewed.)

Didn't ICA also use a screen name very similar to Kio's name like CaseyOMarie? :crazy:

Kiomarie was also the only person to tell the adoption story, the A and Grund family all denied there was ever talk of adoption -

hmm - did ICA call Kio and offer an almost 3 year old Caylee - up for adoption if the price was right? Remember the odd comment that ICA was pretty, so she knew her baby would be pretty? :hand: Were they going to meet at JB Park? Was she planning on setting Kio up for Caylee's abduction; til someone set Kio straight about the crime of selling or buying a child?

The little truth in all the lies?:waitasec:

Kio's story always sat wrong with me - then LE having to call her repeatedly - because she was "too busy to return their phone calls" and she claimed her boyfriend refused to hand over the phone records - another person refusing to help in a missing child case. :silenced::loser:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Richard Grund spoke of adoption on one of the NG shows. I remember him stateing JG thought they were both too young and he knew he couldn't have been the father....JMHO

GRUND: Well, about a month later, he gets a phone call from her and she says, I need to talk to you. But Jesse is in the middle of a seminar for a new job. He says, I can`t talk to you right now, send me a text message. And so while he`s sitting there in the middle of this seminar, he gets a text message says, I`m pregnant and you`re the father. That`s it.

So he calls us up, tells us the situation. He`s a little embarrassed because he knows, based on our values, this is really not something I want to hear on the other end of the telephone. But he`s my son and I love him and I`ll support him. And he immediately steps up and says, I`m going to take responsibility for my actions.

He meets with Casey and basically says, Look, both of us are too young to be parents. Let`s put this baby up for adoption to somebody who wants a baby that can`t have one. And Casey said, That`s not an option, that`s not going to happen. So Caylee is born August of `05, as we know. Jesse gets the call the minute she`s born, goes to the hospital and requests a paternity test, which we had all said, Best thing to do before you put your name on the birth certificate, let`s make sure you`re really the father.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/22/ng.01.html

 

[pip]

"I know i'm competent"
Jose Baez

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Way back when LA hired Luka, the police wanted to interview him. They said, he knows what he's done????

I wonder what LE meant by that???

Sorry if this was asked and answered already, I just haven't seen it...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[LCoastMom]

Richard Grund spoke of adoption on one of the NG shows. I remember him stateing JG thought they were both too young and he knew he couldn't have been the father....JMHO

Exactly once again, Kio is the only one who claimed ICA wanted to put Caylee up for adoption - the Grund's and Anthony's said it never happened. Not that I believe the Anthony's, but I do believe the Grund's - they had no reason to lie about this.

 

[Ada]

Exactly once again, Kio is the only one who claimed ICA wanted to put Caylee up for adoption - the Grund's and Anthony's said it never happened. Not that I believe the Anthony's, but I do believe the Grund's - they had no reason to lie about this.

KC said different things to different people. She could very well have told Kio about plans to put Caylee up for adoption while denying the very idea to the Grunds and the rest of the As.

 

[Wescott]

When Lee asked, while discussing Caylee being missing, "is this like the other time"?

Could you please tell me when he said this? I have searched here but can't find out. Thanks

 

[countzero]

Could you please tell me when he said this? I have searched here but can't find out. Thanks

It was said during one of the jail visits LA had with ICA after she was arrested 8.16.08 and LA was playing detective. Up in the resource thread there was at one time an audio of this visit.

But yes, he asked the question and ICA deflected immediately.

 

[MissJames]

KC said different things to different people. She could very well have told Kio about plans to put Caylee up for adoption while denying the very idea to the Grunds and the rest of the As.

BBM

Exactly ! It seems like she told different people different versions of who Caylee's father was.
She told Cindy and George Caylee was with the nanny at times she told her friends Caylee was with Cindy.
KC lies . She a chameleon and her lies fit whatever situation she's in ,with whoever she's with.

The most baffling statement to me is Cindy's claim on the witness stand that she's not sure Caylee is dead.

 

[MissJames]

It was said during one of the jail visits LA had with ICA after she was arrested 8.16.08 and LA was playing detective. Up in the resource thread there was at one time an audio of this visit.

But yes, he asked the question and ICA deflected immediately.

Makes me wonder what KC got away with before this. Boggles the mind.

 

[countzero]

Makes me wonder what KC got away with before this. Boggles the mind.

Yep .... iirc, we had a thread discussing the possibilities ..... of course, none of them were confirmed cause you know CA told Rick "ICA would have to have sex to get preggers, and she hasn't had sex". OooooKkkkkkk CA ..... just another lie in the many told by the A clan. imho

 

[txsvicki]

Nothing that's been said baffles me since I could put statements into context and figure them out. What amazes me though is that people don't seem to realize how much Casey lied and made up complicated scenarios that put the blame on her family for everything she ever did. She is a grown woman and still had the Grunds blaming and disrespecting her mother when a she was the one accused of premeditating the murder of her own toddler. Now that is one accomplished psychopath who can abuse, lie to, practically accuse of murder, and use a whole family and they (the Grund's) still defend her. Her own family is doing the same and Casey has caused probably millions of people to hate them , made them prisoners in their own home for awhile, and accused the males of molesting her. I guess it does baffle me a little that Casey is not being seen as the manipulative psychopath that she is, maybe just because she's a young female.

 

[LCoastMom]

KC said different things to different people. She could very well have told Kio about plans to put Caylee up for adoption while denying the very idea to the Grunds and the rest of the As.

I'm not saying ICA and Kio never had the conversation, I'm saying I don't believe it was ever a serious consideration. Kio was a 19 year old (single) kid - her saying 'I had money at the time and ICA is a pretty girl an everything, so I knew she would have a pretty baby.'

What? Really?! That's what a prospective adoptive parent thinks about? No! That's a conversation little kids would have. Kind of like ICA adopting an orphaned infant with an Irish accent! It ain't gonna happen!

The conversation just seemed hokey IMO. Then LE had to chase Kio down - calling her multiple times, finally catching her at work - to find out that her boyfriend said "No" to sharing her (his account) phone records with LE - while they were searching for a missing two year old, who Kio had claimed to hear in the background of a phone conversation - a month after she was last seen - low 'n behold, just like all of ICA's "imaginary friends" the OTHER KC had disconnected her phone or something and recently moved out of state!

IDK, I guess I've turned into the suspicious type and everything she said, had my hinky meter blasting.

 

[Marina2]

What's even odder than that is that Casey, in her written statement, says she was wearing the exact same clothes that George described ~ and those weren't the same clothes found with her remains. So why did George and/or Casey describe the wrong clothes? (. . . that Casey allegedly said weren't even found?) :banghead:

To me, GA describes the "cap-sleeved" top that Caylee was wearing in her missing child poster. On two different occasions he describes the shirt as having "sleeves with little flaps on it" and "pinkish with slight little sleeves" (paraphrased) in his LE interviews. I have no source but clearly remember CA saying, in an early interview, the missing child pic is the last one taken of Caylee. In the pic, the top appears to be a little summer pajama top.

Consider that he is describing the pajama top she wore on the night of the 15th and remembers this clearly since pics may have been taken of her wearing it on the night of the 15th along with the fact that it's used in the missing child poster. If so, it's easy to understand why KC would change Caylee's clothes after she died... how could she let her be found in the pajamas she wore to bed that night? Has the top worn in the missing child poster ever been accounted for?

 

[kant]

What is this about the Irish accent? I didnt hear that one yet. wow.

tia

 

[LinasK]

What is this about the Irish accent? I didnt hear that one yet. wow.

tia

Casey wrote in her jail letters to Robyn, about wanting to adopt an Irish baby accent & all. As if babies talk first of all, and second of all, unless she's going to Ireland, they lose their accents pretty quickly when they move to the U.S. I know this for a fact because my daughter's best friend moved here from Ireland. It's been two years. The parents still have strong accents, and use different words- "fringe" for bangs, "candy floss" for cotton candy, "torch" for flashlight, but the kids, all 9 & under have lost their Irish accents.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Way back when LA hired Luka, the police wanted to interview him. They said, he knows what he's done????

I wonder what LE meant by that???

Sorry if this was asked and answered already, I just haven't seen it...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

I don't remember a comment similar to the one above being made about Lee, I thought a LE guy made it regarding GA - that is, directly to GA as in 'You know a lot of things GA'.

Maybe both comments were made but I'm not recalling the one to Lee.

 

[pip]

I don't remember a comment similar to the one above being made about Lee, I thought a LE guy made it regarding GA - that is, directly to GA as in 'You know a lot of things GA'.

Maybe both comments were made but I'm not recalling the one to Lee.

Both of those comments were made. I always wondered if Lee's immunity status was in exchange for telling the truth about 'what he had done', had LE nailed him to the wall on whatever it was..

 

[Woe.be.gone]

"I know i'm competent"
Jose Baez

Speaking of Jose - what about the comment he made in court not too long ago where he said 'when KC hired me in June' - he may have actually said on June 16th or something. He clearly said June and nobody corrected him.

If KC contacted a lawyer in June of 2008, that would really be weird and if so, what did she tell him then?

 

[pip]

Speaking of Jose - what about the comment he made in court not too long ago where he said 'when KC hired me in June' - he may have actually said on June 16th or something. He clearly said June and nobody corrected him.

If KC contacted a lawyer in June of 2008, that would really be weird and if so, what did she tell him then?

It makes me wonder if it could be true. She sure did come up with a lawyer without help lickety split, now didn't she? I know that was in question before, and when he said June in court, my suspicion grew even more.