What is going on between Baez and Casey?

[Sparky]

If they have a psych report saying she is 'deeply disturbed' wouldn't they want to use that diagnosis as a defense?

lol Maybe the CEO won't let them?

 

[Spangle]

Exactly...The DT is at a total loss:waitasec: They bet everything on the SA being thrown off track and having to change their game plan. Well, the DT's curve ball didn't work and it's driving them crazy that the SA has not even acknowledged their new theory. The SA is treating this new theory like it's Junk Science and it's not even worth their time. I love it, the SA is staying focused and moving forward and the DT is starting to panic. :great:

Why should the SA address it. LOL! THey are doing this in order that it all happened. Since ICA's DT just this week decided to report this 'accident', that is 3 years after the event.

Yep, moving forward. Not even a bump on the road.

 

[WillenFan21]

I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I kinda feel like Casey is pretty much being made/sorta forced do go along with that defense plan. I kinda wonder if she's not happy with the defense they are going with because like I said she's being made to go with it. Is she having any input at all I wonder?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Is Casey (in Casey's world, LOL) catching a clue about what JB is saying/alluding to in his questioning. He knows she's a &*(^$$^^&% and *$(%*#&% and a pathological liar. Her boy doesn't think she's all that anymore :floorlaugh:

Next question, does she even care? :crazy:

 

[katydid23]

I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I kinda feel like Casey is pretty much being made/sorta forced do go along with that defense plan. I kinda wonder if she's not happy with the defense they are going with because like I said she's being made to go with it. Is she having any input at all I wonder?

I think she wrote the script herself. NOBODY is forcing her to do anything. She is driving this train, imo.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Yep, she is PIZZED she doesn't control that courtroom. HHJP doesn't do what she wants. The SA doesn't do what she wants. None of the witnesses, including her dad, will do what she wants so far. The courtroom officials and staff are not doing what she wants. The media and the public in the gallery are not doing what she wants. No one seems to be in the gallery for Casey, but to watch her burn, which is not what Casey wants. She's star, not a murderer! Even the jury is probably not doing what she wants either. They seemed to be getting fed up with Baez and don't seem to be completely buying that BS story he told in his opening statement.

And is her defense team helping her one iota to control any of that? Is her knight in shining armor who's supposed to rescue her from jail actually doing that? No, Baez is jumping around like a monkey, attacking witnesses, losing points to the SA left and right, and losing the jury left and right. What a disappointment he turned out to be. I can't believe she hasn't asked to fire him yet. She probably feels like she could do it better herself and I bet no one at that defense table is really listening to her tips and suggestions.

She is fit to be tied, and the defense are the only people right there for her to take it out on. I can't believe it's been five days and she has NOT had a meltdown yet. She must be on some goooooooooood drugs, I tell you.

But a meltdown is soooooooo coming. She is going to drive her sociopathic self into a tizzy because of such a large lack of control she has. I mean, major people like Amy H, Tim Miller, Dr. G, Yuri Melich, and anyone that sees right through and isn't afraid to talk about it have not hit the stand yet. Can you imagine how she's going to be when people who aren't going to say nice things about her hit the stand? And also her mother and brother haven't hit the stand yet. I'm sure whatever they say she'll be angry at them too. Huh. I just realized if she cared, she would now know how her family felt dealing with her all these years! Can't take what you dealt out, can you Casey?

Yeah, that licorice love affair between Baez and Casey is soooooo over.

:goodpost::goodpost: Excellent Post !

 

[Gracenote]

I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I kinda feel like Casey is pretty much being made/sorta forced do go along with that defense plan. I kinda wonder if she's not happy with the defense they are going with because like I said she's being made to go with it. Is she having any input at all I wonder?

You have to pretend it's a tomato LOL



You could be right, I mean anything could be right. I hope we find out some day what all is really going on.

 

[Dysthymia]

I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I kinda feel like Casey is pretty much being made/sorta forced do go along with that defense plan. I kinda wonder if she's not happy with the defense they are going with because like I said she's being made to go with it. Is she having any input at all I wonder?

I'll throw no tomatoes at you. I've wondered the same thing after watching the trial this week.

 

[SindyBill]

Like I don't have anything better to spend my tax $ on. :banghead:

funding for education and DCF cut..but KC still gets a stellar defense!

 

[RAELON]

One quick question. When Baez puts up the infamous calendar he so loves to use does it block the jurors view of Casey?

 

[tasylshari]

This is the MOST respect that you'll ever hear me pay Jose Baez: if you were in his shoes, and had to defend ICA with all of that tremendous cirucumstantial evidence we know about, how would you go about defending her?

For starters, after pulling the accidential drowning card out I'd have left it at that - - - unless, perhaps, you were defending ICA and your defendant insisted that "that" story wasn't quite elaborate enough......this is ICA that we have been speaking about for almost 3 yrs now so we all know her a little...

Again, I insist that this is the only time you will ever hear me defend JB. Look what he's defending. Yuck. Yuck meets yuck and have their ONLY glory days (will be in this courtroom in front of a jury of their peers). Soon their story will be old and done; and so will they.

Sweet, sweet dreams, lil' miss Caylee. Tonight and every night. There are many (!) here for you. And justice will prevail.

 

[barrysgirl]

Do you think it could have happened this way? Casey tells JB "i told tony about daddy abusing me!" and instead of deposing him properly JB waited until at trial and eluded to "the secret". could it be that is what he based his whole defense story on and then Tony said she only told him about lee feeling her up and george hitting her? i've wondered if this is somehow how they got to their "story" and now it's blowing up in their faces because she really didn't tell tony that, she lied to JB like she lies to everyone.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

This is the MOST respect that you'll ever hear me pay Jose Baez: if you were in his shoes, and had to defend ICA with all of that tremendous cirucumstantial evidence we know about, how would you go about defending her?

For starters, after pulling the accidential drowning card out I'd have left it at that - - - unless, perhaps, you were defending ICA and your defendant insisted that "that" story wasn't quite elaborate enough......this is ICA that we have been speaking about for almost 3 yrs now so we all know her a little...

Again, I insist that this is the only time you will ever hear me defend JB. Look what he's defending. Yuck. Yuck meets yuck and have their ONLY glory days (will be in this courtroom in front of a jury of their peers). Soon their story will be old and done; and so will they.

Sweet, sweet dreams, lil' miss Caylee. Tonight and every night. There are many (!) here for you. And justice will prevail.

:sigh: For starters, he should have reined her in very early in on this and had her and her family completely silent. That would have solved a whole bunch of it. Lots of things died down when they shut up. If you don't give the talking heads anything to talk about, less gets said.

 

[tasylshari]

What's going on between Baez and ICA?

Baez cannot lie like ICA can and it is seriously
pizzing her off!

Baez is angry that he has to defend THIS with THIS theory?!

ICA is angry that he is no good at it and not jumping when she says jump. He is tired, inexperienced, stressed, arrogant and
going to lose.

Surprised? I'm not.

 

[tasylshari]

:sigh: For starters, he should have reined her in very early in on this and had her and her family completely silent. That would have solved a whole bunch of it. Lots of things died down when they shut up. If you don't give the talking heads anything to talk about, less gets said.

ITAgree but it was not Joses job to TRY to keep GA and CA silent, was it? I don't think anyone could have reigned in these embarassed, ashamed, heartbroken grandparents at the time. But it certainly wasn't Joses job. He was too busy being wooed by ICA

 

[kaRN]

Very interesting exchange today. Thanks for the link!! When was this recess? After who's testimony?

 

[mitzi]

IMO: The whole point of keeping the theory that "Caylee not missing, she drowned in the family pool" a big secret, is that they thought that would derail the SA's game plan. But it hasn't. The SA have continued and haven't changed one thing based upon ICA now claiming Caylee drowned.

All this 'nasty' stuff, she didn't expect to come out, cause she would expect that those witnesses would no longer be needed, if the baby drowned. But, as I said, the SA hasn't changed their theory.

ICA was convinced it would work and staked her life on it. I'm sure she is pissed. Instead of helping, it looks worse. IF they had aired their theory ahead of time, there would have been time for folks to point out the holes FOR THEM.

Do you think that the drowning by accident and maybe the sexual abuse by George was the "evidence" that the now gone jury consultant presented to the mock jury, and that is why a large percent of them couldn't convict her of 1st degree murder? And may be why the jury consultant (can't remember his name) split?

 

[kaRN]

Do you think it could have happened this way? Casey tells JB "i told tony about daddy abusing me!" and instead of deposing him properly JB waited until at trial and eluded to "the secret". could it be that is what he based his whole defense story on and then Tony said she only told him about lee feeling her up and george hitting her? i've wondered if this is somehow how they got to their "story" and now it's blowing up in their faces because she really didn't tell tony that, she lied to JB like she lies to everyone.

Even worse TL said she said LA tried to feel her up but she didn't let him. I bet every single juror there wants to hit her, or will by trials end so GA gets a pass for that IMO.

 

[mitzi]

They know what the holes are, they have NOTHING else but Casey's words to go on. That's it. The DT aren't idiots, they're frustrated. Can you imagine trying to control Casey and get her to listen to reason? I'd bet MY LIFE they tried every which way to get her to plead out long ago. They can't. They are simply trying to put lipstick on a pig. They know it. We know it.

I think you are right on, and now I think she will want to go on the witness stand...it will be her moment of glory...and she thinks she could really pull it off....and no one on her DT will be able to talk her out of it. I'd pay $100 to see that!

 

[nitasch]

I am so happy this thread is here... One day this week, I believe it was yesterday, the SA was questioning someone..sorry cannot remember who, and ICA appeared to say "relevance" JB immediately stood up and stated "Objection, relevance"

You only see the true ICA when the jury is out of the room... and I have no doubt she has been running the show from the beginning as far as JB is concerned.

I did see today when one of the afternoon recesses was over, but before court was back in session, where JB was sitting listening to ICA, and doing his bobble head motion, along with rolling his eyes, involuntary smirks, and the *omg please stop talking, or, someone please save me look* while ICA was constantly .spewing something unknown.