What Is the Defense Strategy?

[Gma Kat]

IIRC - there was at least one prior report of abuse or some type of investigation by social services within the A's home prior to Caylee's birth. I know I have "heard" that this investigation found nothing amiss; however, how do we know that?

This investigation would have been sealed.

Could all the "sealed" information be this old report? Maybe they are not throwing GA under the bus? Maybe he this old report puts him dead square in its path?

Perhaps the defense wants to control "how" this info comes to light before the jury and therefore is struggling with how to introduce it and play it out in a manner that helps their case....

NOT THAT I BELIEVE THIS - but its one of the few theories I have come up with.....now feel free to explain how wrong I am!! No tomatoes please!!!

 

[Softail]

:dunno: The only thing that I think we actually do know, is that whatever she told these Dr.'s - The defense really, really, really, really, really, really wants the jury to hear it.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

You know....I'm thinking they may say KC was raped. Not by GA or LA...but an outside SODDI. That's why the father of Caylee is not named. That's why KC didn't tell her parents she was preggers. And that is probably the story she told the MHEs. This story not to explain the "death" of Caylee...but to explain her behavior afterwards. That she was so traumatized by Caylee's disappearance, she had a mental relapse. Which included stipper poles. But I digress.....
But then they still have to come up with a plausible story of how Caylee disappeared from her mother's care. And that just cannot happen unless they use GA as the scapegoat, with ICA protecting him all this time.

 

[Intermezzo]

IIRC - there was at least one prior report of abuse or some type of investigation by social services within the A's home prior to Caylee's birth. I know I have "heard" that this investigation found nothing amiss; however, how do we know that?

This investigation would have been sealed.

Could all the "sealed" information be this old report? Maybe they are not throwing GA under the bus? Maybe he this old report puts him dead square in its path?

Perhaps the defense wants to control "how" this info comes to light before the jury and therefore is struggling with how to introduce it and play it out in a manner that helps their case....

NOT THAT I BELIEVE THIS - but its one of the few theories I have come up with.....now feel free to explain how wrong I am!! No tomatoes please!!!

bbm
I have not heard that before
A WS member recently posted the list of incidents when LE was called to the Anthony home in the past..domestic, disturbance...I don't remember who the WS poster was that recently posted that.

 

[NavySubMom]

:dunno: The only thing that I think we actually do know, is that whatever she told these Dr.'s - The defense really, really, really, really, really, really wants the jury to hear it.

Agreed. but instead of trying to introduce it by six ways to Sunday, JUST PUT HER ON THE STAND to tell it! If it is the truth, and you really have reasons for everything you did, the whole 31 days and the whole she shebang, a coverup, etc., just TELL IT and explain it to the jury. If you are telling the truth, you will not waiver, and you cannot be caught up in lies, so stop all the b.s., and simply tell the jury what actually happened.......I know they don't want her on the stand, but really, trying to get this info in in every back door is just ridiculous. IMO, of course.

 

[Solace]

IIRC - there was at least one prior report of abuse or some type of investigation by social services within the A's home prior to Caylee's birth. I know I have "heard" that this investigation found nothing amiss; however, how do we know that?

This investigation would have been sealed.

Could all the "sealed" information be this old report? Maybe they are not throwing GA under the bus? Maybe he this old report puts him dead square in its path?

Perhaps the defense wants to control "how" this info comes to light before the jury and therefore is struggling with how to introduce it and play it out in a manner that helps their case....

NOT THAT I BELIEVE THIS - but its one of the few theories I have come up with.....now feel free to explain how wrong I am!! No tomatoes please!!!

never heard that. I know that social services went to Anthony home after KC was arrested in that she was baby sitting. Never heard anything before.

 

[Solace]

Agreed. but instead of trying to introduce it by six ways to Sunday, JUST PUT HER ON THE STAND to tell it! If it is the truth, and you really have reasons for everything you did, the whole 31 days and the whole she shebang, a coverup, etc., just TELL IT and explain it to the jury. If you are telling the truth, you will not waiver, and you cannot be caught up in lies, so stop all the b.s., and simply tell the jury what actually happened.......I know they don't want her on the stand, but really, trying to get this info in in every back door is just ridiculous. IMO, of course.

She will not last 5 minutes with the prosecutors. She is not going on the stand.

 

[SoCalSleuth]

I understand, but what I can't figure out is how will Baez be able to introduce sexual abuse into the trial? Doesn't it have to come from someone who either witnessed it or KC herself? Can it be introduced through a psych eval? Who would testify that happened?

Can't introduce it through a psych eval because it's hearsay and the defense just withdrew those witnesses and reports anyway. It can be introduced through KC, the alleged abuser(s) or anyone who witnessed the alleged abuse.

 

[Solace]

I understand, but what I can't figure out is how will Baez be able to introduce sexual abuse into the trial? Doesn't it have to come from someone who either witnessed it or KC herself? Can it be introduced through a psych eval? Who would testify that happened?

I don't see why. I was watching a case the other day and the defendant's lawyer said the friend did it and broke into the house and killed the parents.

They convicted the son anyway, but I am just saying that the defense went and fingered the friend.

So I am assuming that the defense can say whatever they want.

 

[SoCalSleuth]

You know....I'm thinking they may say KC was raped. Not by GA or LA...but an outside SODDI. That's why the father of Caylee is not named. That's why KC didn't tell her parents she was preggers. And that is probably the story she told the MHEs. This story not to explain the "death" of Caylee...but to explain her behavior afterwards. That she was so traumatized by Caylee's disappearance, she had a mental relapse. Which included stipper poles. But I digress.....
But then they still have to come up with a plausible story of how Caylee disappeared from her mother's care. And that just cannot happen unless they use GA as the scapegoat, with ICA protecting him all this time.

Pretty good theory and would explain so much. I was always bothered by the lack of going after the father for child support and the conflicting statements as to the identity of the father. But then again, you are right, they still have to come up with a scenario as to what happened to Caylee.

 

[RR0004]

IIRC - there was at least one prior report of abuse or some type of investigation by social services within the A's home prior to Caylee's birth. I know I have "heard" that this investigation found nothing amiss; however, how do we know that?

This investigation would have been sealed.

Could all the "sealed" information be this old report? Maybe they are not throwing GA under the bus? Maybe he this old report puts him dead square in its path?

Perhaps the defense wants to control "how" this info comes to light before the jury and therefore is struggling with how to introduce it and play it out in a manner that helps their case....

NOT THAT I BELIEVE THIS - but its one of the few theories I have come up with.....now feel free to explain how wrong I am!! No tomatoes please!!!

No, but I would love to see links to this stuff.
I remember back in the beginning we examined the police's call sheet to the residence (calls made prior to Caylee's death)...and there were lots of calls, but I do not remember CPS coming to the home.

 

[NavySubMom]

She will not last 5 minutes with the prosecutors. She is not going on the stand.

I realize that, but if it was me, and whatever the Baez "aha" moment is that everyone will really and finally understand why ICA did not do it, that she is innocent, whatever the reason, covering up for someone, ugly coping, whatever the reason, and if there really is one that is the "truth", and if I was on trial and had a good chance of going to jail forever, no one could keep me from explaining this whole thing if I was really innocent. and therein lies the problem......there would be a real, truthful reason for all of it, apparently she was coherent and able to explain this all to the 2 drs., so then explain it all to the jury. I would, if it was the truth. She was able to tell something to these doctors to explain everything, and the DT is desparately trying to get it in, if it really explains it all, "AHA", then it could set her free. IMO. SA, or not, I would be screaming to tell my truth. again, there in lies the problem.......

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I'm feeling as crazy as ICA....now after reading this: Will Casey Defense Use Duct Tape To Frame George Anthony at http://www.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.com/2011/04/will-casey-defense-use-duct-tape-to-frame-george-anthony/
I am thinking it will be GA.
and I am also thinking that is why JB said a couple of times in court to HHJP that he would possibly be looking to have the Grand Jury Testimony unsealed. He wants to impeach GA and roll those wheels right over his weepy ... self.

 

[NavySubMom]

again, WAAAAYYYY out there, do you think ICA said something to the 2 drs. like GA used duct tape on HER mouth to "keep her quiet" or something when she was "mouthing off" to her parents when she was a youngster. I just can't believe they will go with GA sexually abusing ICA, that is hard for me to fathom. I think violence, we know he has a bad temper, apparently they are using the protester video, maybe he used to "duct tape" her to keep her quiet as punishment or something when she was young. But, who knows....it just appears the bus is really going in his direction...I find that despicable. IMO only.

 

[Whome?]

:dunno: The only thing that I think we actually do know, is that whatever she told these Dr.'s - The defense really, really, really, really, really, really wants the jury to hear it.

I'm looking for the D/T to "blab" this psych theory out intentionally,you know they play dirty, the SA's will immediately object,judge would then request jury out of the courtroom,jurors will then wonder about incest,rape,whatever theory the D/T has. As has previously been stated,"the bell would have been rung and once the jury hears it,cannot be unrung" Watch for the D/T to interject something that has not been agreed upon prior to trial, that's just how they roll (as the kids say). I'm waiting, they are going to play dirty, wait and see,I'm willing to bet on it. JMHO:twocents:

 

[Solace]

I realize that, but if it was me, and whatever the Baez "aha" moment is that everyone will really and finally understand why ICA did not do it, that she is innocent, whatever the reason, covering up for someone, ugly coping, whatever the reason, and if there really is one that is the "truth", and if I was on trial and had a good chance of going to jail forever, no one could keep me from explaining this whole thing if I was really innocent. and therein lies the problem......there would be a real, truthful reason for all of it, apparently she was coherent and able to explain this all to the 2 drs., so then explain it all to the jury. I would, if it was the truth. She was able to tell something to these doctors to explain everything, and the DT is desparately trying to get it in, if it really explains it all, "AHA", then it could set her free. IMO. SA, or not, I would be screaming to tell my truth. again, there in lies the problem.......

Apparently she did not explain so well that it would stand the test of the prosecutors having their experts examine her. The defense has this "expert" saying there were a huge amount of flies in the trunk - he does however not address the coffin fly legs found on the paper towels and the eggs and pupae. They conveniently left that out.

And also, lets not forget that in the hearings, when you watch Baez questioning Yuri Melich, several times he basically lied about facts e.g. when Yuri was told about the smell in the car (Baez said it was after he came back with KC from checking out Sawgrass, etc.) But Melich set him straight on that.

Baez also said to Vass you checked the air quality of a sample some three months old and Ashton set him straight on that.

My point is that Baez is not to be trusted with the "facts". Although he claims that they have been twisted and turned, he has done just exactly that time and again. Why he does it, for the life of me, I don't understand. He lets George get up there and say Melich said "you're never gonna see her again" and of course this is not true. All it serves to do is let Judge Perry see how much the Anthonys will "lie" if allowed to and he as much as said that but in a much nicer way when he disallowed their being in the court room nonstop.

They can't let her get up there. She will be shredded.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

So put it all together and what do you get?

Explain away her bizarre, sociopathic behavior by saying KC was raped. Not by GA or LA...but an outside SODDI. That's why the father of Caylee is not named. That's why KC didn't tell her parents she was preggers. And that is probably the story she told the MHEs. This story not to explain the "death" of Caylee...but to explain her behavior afterwards. That she was so traumatized by Caylee's disappearance, she had a mental break.
Explain the disappearance of Caylee by saying GA did it, which brought back memories for KC, which sent her into a mental state dancing on poles and getting tatoos, and making her suffer in jail for 2 1/2 years to protect good old George. BUT it was an accident. GA accidentally killed Caylee. But the MOTY has been taking the fall for her beloved father all this time.
Or something along these lines. Because they tried to implicate JG....oops brick wall.
They tried to implicate RK....oops brick wall.
But they will be able to implicate GA, he will claim the 5th, and all will be good with the world. KC's world that is. Caylee's world, not so good.

 

[NavySubMom]

I'm looking for the D/T to "blab" this psych theory out intentionally,you know they play dirty, the SA's will immediately object,judge would then request jury out of the courtroom,jurors will then wonder about incest,rape,whatever theory the D/T has. As has previously been stated,"the bell would have been rung and once the jury hears it,cannot be unrung" Watch for the D/T to interject something that has not been agreed upon prior to trial, that's just how they roll (as the kids say). I'm waiting, they are going to play dirty, wait and see,I'm willing to bet on it. JMHO:twocents:

Agreed. They plan to get it in come hell or high water, and I agree, they will play very dirty. IMO.

 

[nort]

So we have RM with the shirt and access to ICA's car,possible suspect. GA with the duct tape, access to the car, ICA telling her friend it smelled after George drove it possible suspect, CA lying her AZZ off for three years had access to the car and duct tape possible suspect, LA doing something he knows he did per LE access to the car and duct tape possible suspect. Anyone of them could have done it.. reasonable doubt..JMO

 

[Solace]

Agreed. They plan to get it in come hell or high water, and I agree, they will play very dirty. IMO.

Agree 1000%, but Judge will sanction Baez if he sees a blatant disregard.

The prosecution is, imo, going to steamroll right over them and this case is going to be history in two months. But it is going to be fascinating.