What Is the Defense Strategy?

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EXACTLY. George, being an ex detective would never hide a body there---UNLESS HE WAS FRAMING SOMEONE.

He was afraid Casey was going to tell on him so he framed her before she could do so. Perfect defense.

That's all pretty complicated for ole George to relate don't you think? We've seen him on the stand..........

Either he would have to testify to it for the defense or against it for the SA but either way I can't see him getting past question number five.....before he blows.
 
Something like the abused spouse syndrome defense? What was that woman's name that killed her husband who was a minister? Mary...? The defense would have to have a really good explanation for Casey covering for her father.

ETA: This isn't the SA's first rodeo and I can see them discrediting this angle right away.

Ah! Mary Winkler
 
That's all pretty complicated for ole George to relate don't you think? We've seen him on the stand..........

Either he would have to testify to it for the defense or against it for the SA but either way I can't see him getting past question number five.....before he blows.

. . . or couldn't he just plead the fifth? (This could be a hilarious question because I know zer0 about legal matters ~ Sorry.)
 
That's all pretty complicated for ole George to relate don't you think? We've seen him on the stand..........

Either he would have to testify to it for the defense or against it for the SA but either way I can't see him getting past question number five.....before he blows.

No, he won't be asked to testify to that scenario at all. ALL they need to do is IMPLY that it COULD have happened.

All they need to do is ask him things like ' You DID have a set of those car keys, isn't that correct Mr. Anthony?'

You did know about that burial site where Casey buried her pet hamster, didn't you? And didn't you HELP her wrap the dead pets and helped her carry them there?

etc etc etc...

And if he does blow up, ALL THE BETTER for the defense.
 
No, he won't be asked to testify to that scenario at all. ALL they need to do is IMPLY that it COULD have happened.

All they need to do is ask him things like ' You DID have a set of those car keys, isn't that correct Mr. Anthony?'

You did know about that burial site where Casey buried her pet hamster, didn't you? And didn't you HELP her wrap the dead pets and helped her carry them there?

etc etc etc...

And if he does blow up, ALL THE BETTER for the defense.

But the SA wouldn't just leave it like that - they would have George back on the stand for rebuttal before Jose could say "Uncle". Can you imagine either LDB or JA saying "no your honor, no questions of this witness?"

JA would be purple!
 
Oh, thank God ~ I see on the "users viewing this thread" that AZlawyer is here! :great: :woohoo:

ETA: Well, she was ~ but she moves fast!
 
Can you remember if she pled guilty or innocent when charged? Was it innocent because of .....to be announced?

That was a really interesting case.

I know she originally pled NG. That may have changed at trial. I didn't follow that case very closely.
 
But the SA wouldn't just leave it like that - they would have George back on the stand for rebuttal before Jose could say "Uncle". Can you imagine either LDB or JA saying "no your honor, no questions of this witness?"

JA would be purple!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
But the SA wouldn't just leave it like that - they would have George back on the stand for rebuttal before Jose could say "Uncle". Can you imagine either LDB or JA saying "no your honor, no questions of this witness?"

JA would be purple!

Of course. But what can they say other than ' Did you plant the body in the trunk?'

Did you molest your daughter or granddaughter?

Once the state is forced to ask questions like that then the Defense wins major points, imo.

And it blurs all of the lines between the prosecution and Casey's family. Suddenly the state is defending her parents, which sets things in different perspectives entirely.

The defense does not have to prove anyone else killed the baby, just that someone else COULD HAVE.

And all of the evidence that points to Casey, the trunk, the burial site, the masking tape, the baby blanket, the last day the baby was seen, all of it could have been accessed by George as well. So it could very well set up a reasonable doubt scenario, imo.
 
The defense needs to come here and view the thread we have on George. Way too many holes for them to even insinuate it. For instance having Caylee in the trunk dead for 2+days, chloroform, hiding out at TL apt.
 
If KC doesn't woman-up she's doomed.

Saying that Caylee wasn't on Suburban would be same old/same old. More fibs from KC and trying to blame somebody else. George wouldn't leave Caylee's remains so close to the road. He wouldn't wimpily give up digging after a stroke or two. If he knew about the duct tape, there wouldn't have been duct tape on his gas cans for LE to photograph. Caylee wouldn't have been left in the laundry bag that had previously hung in Caylee's room.
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An accident theory, AZlawyer's recommendation, I think might win over a juror or two. The psych experts wouldn't say KC had a split personality or anything like that. They would say, like a battered wife, KC's had become so reasoning-impaired from life in the Anthony house, that she behaved in ways that make her look guilty even though she is innocent.

KC would have to admit to lying and covering up Caylee's death (both givens anyway), but not to murder. The impaired reasoning part would be tough for KC to admit to, but Cindy said when KC gets cornered she usually "tells the truth" (she 'fesses up to smaller misdeeds to get away with the big ones). So KC already knows the drill.

KC's defense lawyers and their experts could say, "KC has spent a lifetime being terrorized by her father's temper, her father and her brother's abuse and the high expectations of her very strong nit-picking mother. A lifetime of abuse and belittling made KC an insecure wreck. She can't work. Whatever KC tried to do was never good enough...so why even try? Desperate to succeed at something KC went from man to man. Compliments from those men made KC feel worthy. In their arms she was good enough. But, all the men and the family dysfunction left KC confused and in turmoil. KC's confusion, her fears of being belittled and her low self-esteem crippled her to the point of being paralyzed,..for years. KC might have been 22 years old the summer of 2008 but inside she was still an immature little girl. Scared. Worthless. Powerless.

KC knew she had to do something but instead frittered her days away lulled by her soothing computer.Hour after hour passed without KC even realizing it. But the activity killed KC's internal pain.

KC forgot to watch Caylee.

"Caylee fell/choked/drowned/had a heart attack.

KC couldn't call anyone to get help after the "accident" because her parents would "know" about her ultimate screw-up. They'd blame her the way they always did. Caylee's death was proof positive that KC was the bad mother Cindy said she was. KC couldn't bear to face her mother's pain. Her shame was overwhelming. Also if KC called for help, her family would find out something else KC was ashamed of. Something besides not watching Caylee. To avoid being belittled KC had invented a "perfect" job. The lie compounded when KC had to make up Zanny so her family wouldn't know she didn't have a perfect job. She had to steal to keep her phone so she could text so she wouldn't feel her internal pain. She also had to lie more and steal more and send herself e-mails so Cindy would believe she had a job which made KC's esteem even lower.

Like a deer in headlights, KC didn't know which way to go. She headed to a "friend". Maybe that "friend" could somehow make her feel worthy...make her forget.

Yes, KC is a liar. But, KC's low self-esteem, her father's rages and her mother's belittling and competitive ways drove her to it.

When Caylee fell/choked/drowned, KC coped the way she'd learned to cope in order keep her sanity. She put on her happy face and lied. It is what she'd always had to do for peace and acceptance.

KC's misguided immaturity (brought on by her dysfunctional upbringing) led KC to try to cover up the accident. Horrifically.

What I believe might resonate the most with jurors is a story that includes some truth and rational reasons for KC's awful behavior.
 
Originally Posted by logicalgirl
Maybe George can be talked in to accepting some kind of blame for Caylee's death, but can you just imagine Jeff Ashton or LDB walking him through each action at the trial?

George will be a complete mess - he will end up yelling and screaming and blaming JB for testimony - George has never taken responsibility for anything - I don't think he is emotionally stable enough to pull this off even if he wanted to. I just do ..not...see it happening, even though logically it kinda makes sense the DT will go in this direction.

I DON"T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO TELL HIM. I bet they will blindside him during the trial. Why tell him anything?

Exactly! George will be the last to know the Defense steamroller is on top of him!
That's why the Defense did NOT write in the Motion to add the (6) new witnesses to the GUILT Phase Witness List, that Sharon Cadieux and Patricia Young were in the George shoving incident and filed battery charges against him! The Defense tries to be sly and just say that Patricia Young was a TES searcher... and says nothing about why Sharon Cadieux is a "necessary witness" to the Defendant.

And that is also why Finnell and Baez stammered and choked and stalled when the Judge was asking them why these new witnesses are being added and what the state of mind thing is about. Baez wanted to discuss it at sidebar so GEORGE would not hear about it. IMO

George, or his new attorneys in the Lippman firm, better connect the dots .... new "state of mind" witnesses added at the same time two women that filed battery charges against George are added!
 
Of course. But what can they say other than ' Did you plant the body in the trunk?'

Did you molest your daughter or granddaughter?

Once the state is forced to ask questions like that then the Defense wins major points, imo.

And it blurs all of the lines between the prosecution and Casey's family. Suddenly the state is defending her parents, which sets things in different perspectives entirely.

The defense does not have to prove anyone else killed the baby, just that someone else COULD HAVE.

And all of the evidence that points to Casey, the trunk, the burial site, the masking tape, the baby blanket, the last day the baby was seen, all of it could have been accessed by George as well. So it could very well set up a reasonable doubt scenario, imo.

Her lies such as working at US were made up to protect GA? I think the jury will be furious. If the only evidence the DT has is Casey's word they're in trouble.
 
Well, the defense just may not have a defense at all come Monday. Dominic Casey will be giving his deposition and I can only hope that something really incriminating is revealed.

I don't know if they will be able to get around DC being sent out there by anyone in the Anthony family... if someone in that family did in fact send him out there.
 
Originally Posted by logicalgirl
Maybe George can be talked in to accepting some kind of blame for Caylee's death, but can you just imagine Jeff Ashton or LDB walking him through each action at the trial?

George will be a complete mess - he will end up yelling and screaming and blaming JB for testimony - George has never taken responsibility for anything - I don't think he is emotionally stable enough to pull this off even if he wanted to. I just do ..not...see it happening, even though logically it kinda makes sense the DT will go in this direction.



Exactly! George will be the last to know the Defense steamroller is on top of him!
That's why the Defense did NOT write in the Motion to add the (6) new witnesses to the GUILT Phase Witness List, that Sharon Cadieux and Patricia Young were in the George shoving incident and filed battery charges against him! The Defense tries to be sly and just say that Patricia Young was a TES searcher... and says nothing about why Sharon Cadieux is a "necessary witness" to the Defendant.

George, or his new attorneys in the Lippman firm, better connect the dots .... new "state of mind" witnesses added at the same time two women that filed battery charges against George are added!

Were Sharon and Patricia protesters outside of the Anthony house in the very early days? Were they the ones who were actually on Anthony property. Do you know what became of those battery charges? That was over two years ago...
 
Of course. But what can they say other than ' Did you plant the body in the trunk?'

Did you molest your daughter or granddaughter?

Once the state is forced to ask questions like that then the Defense wins major points, imo.

And it blurs all of the lines between the prosecution and Casey's family. Suddenly the state is defending her parents, which sets things in different perspectives entirely.

The defense does not have to prove anyone else killed the baby, just that someone else COULD HAVE.

And all of the evidence that points to Casey, the trunk, the burial site, the masking tape, the baby blanket, the last day the baby was seen, all of it could have been accessed by George as well. So it could very well set up a reasonable doubt scenario, imo.

They have GA under oath admitting that he would do pretty much anything, sell his soul to protect his daughter. All they need to do is ask that question again, UNDER THREAT OF PERJURY. At that point the jury will recognize GA as the guilt ridden father willing to sacrifice himself to save his daughter from jail, and will discount pretty much anything that nudges towards him. as I said above, juries are not typically stupid. They tend to see things for what they are. The key thing is the defense does not have to raise "any doubt" or "possible doubt". The state doesn't have to prove "guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt". The standard is "reasonable doubt". Reasonable is the key word there.
 
If KC doesn't woman-up she's doomed.

Saying that Caylee wasn't on Suburban would be same old/same old. More intelligence insulting fibs from KC.
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An accident theory, AZlawyer's recommendation, I think might win over a juror or two. The psych experts wouldn't say KC had a split personality or anything like that. They would say, like a battered wife, KC's had become so reasoning-impaired from life in the Anthony house, that she behaved in ways that make her look guilty even though she is innocent.

KC would have to admit to lying and covering up Caylee's death (both givens anyway), but not to murder. The impaired reasoning part would be tough for KC to admit to, but Cindy said when KC gets cornered she usually "tells the truth" (she 'fesses up to smaller misdeeds to get away with the big ones). So KC already knows the drill.

KC's defense lawyers and their experts could say, "KC has spent a lifetime being terrorized by her father's temper, her father and her brother's abuse and the high expectations of her very strong nit-picking mother. A lifetime of abuse and belittling made KC an insecure wreck. She can't work. Whatever KC tried to do was never good enough...so why even try? Desperate to succeed at something KC went from man to man. Compliments from those men made KC feel worthy. In their arms she was good enough. But, all the men and the family dysfunction left KC confused and in turmoil. KC's confusion, her fears of being belittled and her low self-esteem crippled her to the point of being paralyzed,..for years. KC might have been 22 years old the summer of 2008 but inside she was still an immature little girl. Scared. Worthless. Powerless.

KC knew she had to do something but instead frittered her days away lulled by her soothing computer.Hour after hour passed without KC even realizing it. But the activity killed KC's internal pain.

KC forgot to watch Caylee.

"Caylee fell/choked/drowned/had a heart attack.

KC couldn't call anyone to get help after the "accident" because her parents would "know" about her ultimate screw-up. They'd blame her the way they always did. Caylee's death was proof positive that KC was the bad mother Cindy said she was. KC couldn't bear to face her mother's pain. Her shame was overwhelming. Also if KC called for help, her family would find out something else KC was ashamed of. Something besides not watching Caylee. To avoid being belittled KC had invented a "perfect" job. The lie compounded when KC had to make up Zanny so her family wouldn't know she didn't have a perfect job. She had to steal to keep her phone so she could text so she wouldn't feel her internal pain. She also had to lie more and steal more and send herself e-mails so Cindy would believe she had a job which made KC's esteem even lower.

Like a deer in headlights, KC didn't know which way to go. She headed to a "friend". Maybe that "friend" could somehow make her feel worthy...make her forget.

Yes, KC is a liar. But, KC's low self-esteem, her father's rages and her mother's belittling and competitive ways drove her to it.

When Caylee fell/choked/drowned, KC coped the way she'd learned to cope in order keep her sanity. She put on her happy face and lied. It is what she'd always had to do for peace and acceptance.

KC's misguided immaturity (brought on by her dysfunctional upbringing) led KC to try to cover up the accident. Horrifically.

The bits of truth in this more realistic scenario, which mostly blames the people many believe the worst about already, might resonate with some jurors.

Yes. And I hope no one from the defense team reads this thread! :gift:
 
Well, the defense just may not have a defense at all come Monday. Dominic Casey will be giving his deposition and I can only hope that something really incriminating is revealed.

I don't know if they will be able to get around DC being sent out there by anyone in the Anthony family... if someone in that family did in fact send him out there.

In several of the Dominic emails to Luke the psychic.... Dominic supports the theory that George did it.....
 
Originally Posted by logicalgirl
Maybe George can be talked in to accepting some kind of blame for Caylee's death, but can you just imagine Jeff Ashton or LDB walking him through each action at the trial?

George will be a complete mess - he will end up yelling and screaming and blaming JB for testimony - George has never taken responsibility for anything - I don't think he is emotionally stable enough to pull this off even if he wanted to. I just do ..not...see it happening, even though logically it kinda makes sense the DT will go in this direction.



Exactly! George will be the last to know the Defense steamroller is on top of him!
That's why the Defense did NOT write in the Motion to add the (6) new witnesses to the GUILT Phase Witness List, that Sharon Cadieux and Patricia Young were in the George shoving incident and filed battery charges against him! The Defense tries to be sly and just say that Patricia Young was a TES searcher... and says nothing about why Sharon Cadieux is a "necessary witness" to the Defendant.

And that is also why Finnell and Baez stammered and choked and stalled when the Judge was asking them why these new witnesses are being added and what the state of mind thing is about. Baez wanted to discuss it at sidebar so GEORGE would not hear about it. IMO

George, or his new attorneys in the Lippman firm, better connect the dots .... new "state of mind" witnesses added at the same time two women that filed battery charges against George are added!


Good thought! This is JB's ambush we all know he wants. I just don't know if they are allowed to go into an area not covered in the depo. Need to ask AZ.
 
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