What questions should Mr. Morgan ask at the second G and C depositions

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  • #121
How do they know that Casey THE LIAR did not mean to cast suspicion on this woman, ZG of the Deposition, when they admit they have never met her, never written a check to her to cover daycare expenses, never spoke with her on the phone though stating they had numerous phone numbers, never driving to her home though stating they had many addresses, and what the woman looks like as compared to the woman sitting in front of them? They have only ONE person's say so as to whether THIS ZG was the woman who Casey says was not the babysitter, and Casey will not go on record as stating that she is not. Yet these people continue to assert that their lying daughter could not have stolen this woman's identity to use to blame for Caylee's disappearance and refuse to back up that statement with any possible means to demonstrate that Casey not only MEANT someone else, but that someone else actually EXISTED.

Mr. Morgan and ZG are not "going after" GACA. The Anthony's only want to say "that's not the one" and be done with it. Yet very real evidence exists that Casey DID mean this one because she thought she was innocuous enough, was expendable enough, and would deflect the truth that Casey herself is responsible for the disappearance and ultimate death of her daughter, Caylee.

Financial matters, daycare arrangements, food and clothing, transportation, relationships between parents and daughter, relationship between grandparents and granddaughter, relationship between husband and wife, all become material to the issue of whether Casey had the means and the wherewithall to support herself and her daughter, whether it caused familial stress and strife, and whether her daughter was exposed to said stress and strife, and whether or not the continued enabling of the 22 year old mother led to the death of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Perpetuating Casey's lies about having a nanny at all in the face of overwhelming evidence that one did not exist points directly back to Casey having stolen ZG's identity to implicate her. She just never thought someone would confront that and say "You cannot do that because there are repercussions." As we have seen, selfish acts for any of the Anthonys have never proven to glean any reliable repercussions. Mr. Morgan and his client may become the first to achieve the incredible: Force the Anthonys to face that they cannot just do what they want and expect others to roll over and take it.

I am one of those who in the beginning believed this to be a frivolous law suit. Not only have I changed my belief on that, I have also begun to believe she should get a group rate and sue the lot of them.
MADE BOLD

ON the radio show the Sacred Monkeys they suggested that the name ZG is not a person but a location of the body.
<<<SNIP>>>
Could Zenaida Gonzalez have been Code for Caylee Anthony&#8217;s Location and Not Just a Nanny&#8217;s Name?
The case just got even more bizarre &#8230;
<<<SNIP>>>
As fate would have it, Zenaida Gonzalez is not just the name of the fictitious nanny that Casey Anthony dreamed up to blame the kidnapping of her daughter, believe it or not Zenaida Gonzales is also the location where the remains of two year old Caylee Anthony was found. Was Casey telling Lee where she dumped the body or was she playing a sick game of leaving clues that no one was picking up on?
 
  • #122
No, no, no..... I am not agreeing with CA at all (made bold)- I m just suggesting that they used Casey's description to state that this can not be the same ZG based on Casey's description.

Glad you cleared that up :blowkiss:

I think it would be up to KC to clear this woman because she is the only one who was supposedly seen her. How can GA and CA sit there and say it is not her without ever seeing her? KC repeatedly lied to them about all sorts of things, so they should say that they can't say either way if it is her or not because they have never seen her and that is all. If they had a sketch drawn by KC's defense of the woman that she says kidnapped Caylee, then they could say that the woman does not favor her. The reason the defense hasn't done a sketch is because then there would be even more uproar that the sketch may look like another person and drag them into this fiasco. KC said that she was never shown a picture of the woman sueing and CA announced that on national tv. LE says she was shown a picture of the woman. CA has said that LE could be lieing, therefore she is saying that the woman sueing could be the one that KC is claiming took Caylee. They need to pick a story and stick with it.
 
  • #123
As for ZFG being a "10"...
This is something I've thought a lot about. Here's my conclusion:
OF COURSE the invisinanny is a "10", because in the perp's world, outward appearance is everything. She would not allow someone who was not outwardly attractive to watch her daughter...why? Because she is so sick and ugly on the inside, all she has is the outside. This leaves me convinced that she puts emphasis and importance on others' outward appearance as well. (this explains promiscuity, revealing clothes, etc. etc.)
Also, she was so concerned with keeping up appearances (the fact that she calls the nonexistant babysitter a NANNY still gripes my you-know-what) that she would HAVE to have a beautiful babysitter. Nothing but the best for the perp. :bang:
 
  • #124
Glad you cleared that up :blowkiss:

I think it would be up to KC to clear this woman because she is the only one who was supposedly seen her. How can GA and CA sit there and say it is not her without ever seeing her? KC repeatedly lied to them about all sorts of things, so they should say that they can't say either way if it is her or not because they have never seen her and that is all. If they had a sketch drawn by KC's defense of the woman that she says kidnapped Caylee, then they could say that the woman does not favor her. The reason the defense hasn't done a sketch is because then there would be even more uproar that the sketch may look like another person and drag them into this fiasco. KC said that she was never shown a picture of the woman sueing and CA announced that on national tv. LE says she was shown a picture of the woman. CA has said that LE could be lieing, therefore she is saying that the woman sueing could be the one that KC is claiming took Caylee. They need to pick a story and stick with it.

I totally agree with that it is Casey that should be questioned again and again and again. :blowkiss:
It is Casey that put the woman in the line of fire.

I am no 10 either who am I to call anyone a 10 or not a 10...LOL
 
  • #125
MADE BOLD

ON the radio show the Sacred Monkeys they suggested that the name ZG is not a person but a location of the body.
<<<SNIP>>>
Could Zenaida Gonzalez have been Code for Caylee Anthony’s Location and Not Just a Nanny’s Name?
The case just got even more bizarre …
<<<SNIP>>>
As fate would have it, Zenaida Gonzalez is not just the name of the fictitious nanny that Casey Anthony dreamed up to blame the kidnapping of her daughter, believe it or not Zenaida Gonzales is also the location where the remains of two year old Caylee Anthony was found. Was Casey telling Lee where she dumped the body or was she playing a sick game of leaving clues that no one was picking up on?

This theory was tossed about here beginning the day the remains were found. You need to add in the INCREDIBLE coincidence that ZG would go to Sawgrass Apartments where Casey first suggested Caylee disappeared from. Then you would need to add in the INCREDIBLE coincidence that this woman would have so many details in common with the ZG of Casey's tale. Rewriting what was first told is not enough to say this woman is not the ZG Casey meant. It is too big a stretch of the imagination to make it fit that this ZG would apply for an apartment where Casey claims to have left her baby. Casey meant her, and now would like to backtrack away from that, like she does in everything she is caught doing wrong.

Too bad for her that others will hold her accountable where her parents will only attempt to cover her tracks.
 
  • #126
The question I'd like to ask Cindy is, If you believed Caylees father was killed, why no attempt for her to know that side of her family, even if her father was gone, there would be another set of grandparents for her to know, possibly aunts or uncles and cousins. Why cheat Caylee from a family that she had every right to know and for them to know her? Was it so you could have total control?
Then I'd like to ask her what hopes she had for Casey and her future and how were they helping her work towards building a secure future for her and her daughter.

VB
 
  • #127
Now just because Casey is not talking, the fact that her parents never met the Nanny - all the questions on earth will not shed any light on this through questioning them.

The point of many of the questions was to prove that KC did not have the money to hire a nanny. It seems the only money she had was what she could steal.
 
  • #128
Morgan is a nut, ZG is exonerated.
and has'nt suffered at all, as she has worked off the books and continues to collect Social Security.
How is she suffering? ZG has become an opportunist. (like many others)
Why isn’t ZG going after Casey, not C&G who have never met her. ?
It amazes me that the lawsuit is even continuing.
EXONERATED


I think that we sometimes forget that everyone is not like . . . us, the us who can parrot along with KC, GA or CA on the depositions, even with the sound off. Those of us who sit in meetings, tapping our heel, because we GOTTA GET HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE RELEASING MORE DOC'S TODAY!

If you ask 10 people, 'what does the name ZFG mean to you?", betcha 7 will say, "isn't she accused of taking some baby in Florida?". And, sadly, 1 will say, "Didn't she kill some baby in Florida?"

This case is up close and personal to us. We ain't normal.

Memories are short. ZFG is a unique name. Forever and ever, the name ZFG is connected with Caylee Anthony, a little girl who was murdered.

Whenever Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, there will be a split second when this person will recoil, remembering the connection.

Morgan needs to keep on. Just keep moving forward. And then, perhaps, when Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, the stranger's immediate thought will be, "I remember her. She was one strong woman. She could have quietly gone away. But she just kept. on. going. Until it was evident, not only to the citizens of Orlando, but to the entire damned world that she had nothing to do with the murder of a child."

I hope Morgan become's CA's worst nightmare.

Blaise
 
  • #129
This theory was tossed about here beginning the day the remains were found. You need to add in the INCREDIBLE coincidence that ZG would go to Sawgrass Apartments where Casey first suggested Caylee disappeared from. Then you would need to add in the INCREDIBLE coincidence that this woman would have so many details in common with the ZG of Casey's tale. Rewriting what was first told is not enough to say this woman is not the ZG Casey meant. It is too big a stretch of the imagination to make it fit that this ZG would apply for an apartment where Casey claims to have left her baby. Casey meant her, and now would like to backtrack away from that, like she does in everything she is caught doing wrong.

Too bad for her that others will hold her accountable where her parents will only attempt to cover her tracks.

I do not agree with what C&G are doing.
I brought in a piece from the Sacred Monkeys site. I do think it is very interesting.
BUT I also do not agree with this attorney who IMHO is as uncivilized as the Anthony's.
I do not like him any more then I like them.
The questions should be directed at Casey the lier.
And redirected to her again till she does answer.
I sure do not think that if C&G never met the Nanny
that questioning them over and over again is the right way to go.
JMOO
 
  • #130
I think that we sometimes forget that everyone is not like . . . us, the us who can parrot along with KC, GA or CA on the depositions, even with the sound off. Those of us who sit in meetings, tapping our heel, because we GOTTA GET HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE RELEASING MORE DOC'S TODAY!

If you ask 10 people, 'what does the name ZFG mean to you?", betcha 7 will say, "isn't she accused of taking some baby in Florida?". And, sadly, 1 will say, "Didn't she kill some baby in Florida?"

This case is up close and personal to us. We ain't normal.

Memories are short. ZFG is a unique name. Forever and ever, the name ZFG is connected with Caylee Anthony, a little girl who was murdered.

Whenever Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, there will be a split second when this person will recoil, remembering the connection.

Morgan needs to keep on. Just keep moving forward. And then, perhaps, when Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, the stranger's immediate thought will be, "I remember her. She was one strong woman. She could have quietly gone away. But she just kept. on. going. Until it was evident, not only to the citizens of Orlando, but to the entire damned world that she had nothing to do with the murder of a child."

I hope Morgan become's CA's worst nightmare.

Blaise

ITA...:clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #131
<snip>
It is not as if she had a Real Job in a company.

I think if she had a job where she got up, went to work, and worked hard, she had more of a job than Casey Anthony had.

Blaise
 
  • #132
I do not agree with what C&G are doing.
I brought in a piece from the Sacred Monkeys site. I do think it is very interesting.
BUT I also do not agree with this attorney who IMHO is as uncivilized as the Anthony's.
I do not like him any more then I like them.
The questions should be directed at Casey the lier.
And redirected to her again till she does answer.
I sure do not think that that if C&G never meant the Nanny
that questioning them over and over again is the right way to go.
JMOO

But to end it from there side all they have to do is say "I do not believe there ever was a person that was a nanny"...Otherwise they have to answer questions to figure out who she is. If it is a place, why would it first be at Sawgrass and then J. Blanchard park?
 
  • #133
CA said she didn't believe there was a nanny way back on I think, her first police interview. She should have stuck with that, instead of trashing this woman.

I'd like to see him focus more questions on KC and money. It was likely the cause of the fight that they didn't have. :)
 
  • #134
I think that we sometimes forget that everyone is not like . . . us, the us who can parrot along with KC, GA or CA on the depositions, even with the sound off. Those of us who sit in meetings, tapping our heel, because we GOTTA GET HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE RELEASING MORE DOC'S TODAY!

If you ask 10 people, 'what does the name ZFG mean to you?", betcha 7 will say, "isn't she accused of taking some baby in Florida?". And, sadly, 1 will say, "Didn't she kill some baby in Florida?"

This case is up close and personal to us. We ain't normal.

Memories are short. ZFG is a unique name. Forever and ever, the name ZFG is connected with Caylee Anthony, a little girl who was murdered.

Whenever Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, there will be a split second when this person will recoil, remembering the connection.

Morgan needs to keep on. Just keep moving forward. And then, perhaps, when Zenaida gives her name to a stranger, the stranger's immediate thought will be, "I remember her. She was one strong woman. She could have quietly gone away. But she just kept. on. going. Until it was evident, not only to the citizens of Orlando, but to the entire damned world that she had nothing to do with the murder of a child."

I hope Morgan become's CA's worst nightmare.

Blaise
If they are not watching the case they do not know the name. I tried it out;
I asked 10 people what they think of the nanny ZG story? and most of them did say WHO?
So if they do not know WHO? they surly will not know the Strong woman either.
Those who are not following the case closely will not know now or later.

Those who are - do not like C&G but while I stood in their corner because I do pity them.
I think they are questionable at best, not likable. And this guy asking them again questions about a nanny they nevr met is bogus.
I do not think that questioning them about ZG over and over is a key to solving any of this I really do not.
I think the key is with Casey and he needs to go to Casey.

I would like them questioned one day and it is not in his jurisdiction: about when did they know? why did they clean the car, why didn't they dial 911 much sooner.
But I do not want him asking those questions.
 
  • #135
I think if she had a job where she got up, went to work, and worked hard, she had more of a job than Casey Anthony had.Blaise
That is true she did have work. and she still does.
It will not effect her work.
 
  • #136
Bold = Me.


If they are not watching the case they do not know the name. I tried it out;
I asked 10 people what they think of the nanny ZG story? and most of them did say WHO?


You must be hanging with a different 10 people than I am. ZFG has become Joey Buttafucio.


So if they do not know WHO? they surly will not know the Strong woman either.

Most will not know the "Who". They will remember the name ZFG. She won't be a person. She'll be an object. Joey Buttafucio anyone? Most probably won't remember the Amy Whatshername case. Most will have a negative connatation with the name Joey Buttafucio.


Those who are not following the case closely will not know now or later.

You don't have to be following the case closely to know that the name ZFG is connected with the murder of a child. They will remember the name. The will remember the connection.



Those who are do not like C&G but while I stood in their corner because I do pity them.
I think they are questionable at best, not likable. And this guy asking them again questions about a nanny they nevr met is bogus.

Unless, of course, you are a woman named ZFG who visited Sawgrass apartment and was later questioned by the police about a child who was later discarded as trash. A woman who, if she googles her name, will forever and ever find her name connected with the murder of this child. Internet is forever.
If that were the case, I doubt you'd consider the questions bogus. I think they would be real, and not questionable. And, no matter if this comes to a civil trial or not, I think you'd get a grim satisfaction at watching the Anthonys squirm.




I do not think that questioning them about ZG over and over is a key to solving any of this I really do not.
I think the key is with Casey and he needs to go to Casey.

Morgan's goal is not to solve the case. Morgan's job is to make it clear that his client's name was wrongly brought into the case of the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony by Casey Anthony, who is now protected and enabled by George and Cindy Anthony.
 
  • #137
That is true she did have work. and she still does.
It will not effect her work.

I do not want to derail this thread so I will leave it here... There is one simple test songline, put yourself in her shoes. kc has accused you of kidnapping, her parents have said they think the nanny did it (you). The police are questioning you. You have lost your job, have trouble feeding your little children, your neighbors look at you like a freak. If this and more had all happened to you, out of the blue, because you don't even know kc, is it still oK? If you answer yes, no problem, well, God Bless you is all I can say.
 
  • #138
That is true she did have work. and she still does.
It will not effect her work.

If you had only a peripheral knowledge of this case, would YOU want a woman whose name is connected with the case of a child who was murdered working in your business or your home? Especially if this person didn't have a specific skill set that would make her highly desirable? If you were looking for someone to clean your hotel or your house, and you had only a faint knowledge of the Caylee Anthony case, your first step would be google. And then you'd move on to the next applicant.

Yes, her ability to work has been effected.

Blaise
 
  • #139
Joey Buttafuco played a direct role in Amy shooting his wife. There is a vast difference between that case and this one. ZG-of-the-Deposition did nothing for which her name is forever related.
 
  • #140
Joey Buttafuco played a direct role in Amy shooting his wife. There is a vast difference between that case and this one. ZG-of-the-Deposition did nothing for which her name is forever related.

I didn't now that Our Boy Joey played a direct role in the shooting of the wife. I don't know that little factoid because I didn't follow the case. All of know is that the name Buttafuco is connected with a shooting in Long Island.

Therein lies my point.

Blaise
 
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