What small foreign faction?

No one took the ransom note seriously. Firstly, the Ramseys. The note said don't dare call the police, so the first thing they did was call the police. Secondly, the police. If they had believed the note and the "foreign faction" stuff they would have called the FBI immediately. Thirdly, Lockheed Martin etc. It seems they thought it over and decided there was no real threat. Fourthly, the public. When the note was made public *everyone* with the slightest sense knew it was bogus. It is so transparently bogus that we need not wonder at all that no one followed the protocols of a real threat. I'm not surprised that the Ramseys called the police or that Lockheed didn't sound their alarm bells.

But it is precisely because it is so plainly false that such a note can yield so many useful clues. Yet, here we are years later, and we cannot answer some simply questions, like - what exactly was the purpose of the note? What agenda did it serve? What part in the crime? For example, was it supposed to draw attention away from the body, to lead the police away from the house, have them running all around town? Was it intended to delay, to buy time? Or just to obfuscate, distract, obstruct? Was it intended to incriminate someone? (I tend to this view) Or was it a "message" to John Ramsey, payback of some sort, an extra cruelty? I don't think any of those questions are settled, let alone the question who wrote it. There are some questions that can be counted as settled though. Chiefly, we can say - for sure - that the note was *not* written by a random perp. It was written by someone who knew John Ramsey. We can say that for certain. So we can forget about all versions of the random intruder theory. A random intruder did not write that note. (This is not to say that a random intruder did not kill the victim, but we can say 100% certain that a random intruder did not write that note!) That narrows it down from about 250 million people to about a dozen or so.

My bold---

This is what CASKU (Child Abduction and Serial Killer Unit) of the FBI derived from the note.

From: Jon Benet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation, by Steve Thomas

"CASKU observed that they had never seen anything like the Ramsey ransom note. Kidnapping demands are usually terse, such as 'We have your kid. A million dollars. We will call you.' From a kidnapper's point of view, the fewer words, the less police have to go on.

Based on their studies of the evidence we provided, they believed the note was written in the home, after the murder, and indicated panic. Ransom notes are normally written prior to the crime, usually proofread, and not written by hand, in order to disguise the authorship.

The FBI deemed the entire crime 'criminally unsophisticated,' citing the child being left on the premises, the disingenuous $118,000 demand in relation to the net worth of the family, the description of the accomplices as 'gentlemen,' and the concept of a ransom delivery where one would be 'scanned for electronic devices.' Kidnappers prefer isolated drops for ransom delivery, not a face-to-face meeting.

There was also an absence of strong language and anger, and the victim was never referred to by name, thus depersonalizing her to the offender. The intelligent wording suggested an educated writer who had some exposure to the South, as shown by the reference to 'southern common sense.'

The crime was an incredibly risky one for an outsider to undertake, the profilers said, and was committed by someone who had a high degree of comfort inside the home. The note was created to misdirect law enforcement and focus attention elsewhere and was a cathartic act that allowed the offender to 'undo' the murder in one's own mind.

Their bottom line was that there had never been a kidnapping attempt."
 
Are there any other handwriting experts besides the ones hired by Chris Wolf who stated that she (PR) was the RN writer?TIA Cause if these are the only ones claiming it I am definitely still having a problem believing it.

Chet Ubowski, the CBI examiner, that I know of. PMPT states specifically that he was ready to testify. FOX News ran a bit about him testifying before the Grand Jury that the only things keeping him from ID'ing her 100% were the disguised letters and the bleeding pen ink. And in a recent radio interview with Mark Fuhrman, an investigative journalist called in and said that he spoke to people within the CBI who told him that PR was the writer, but the DA didn't think the court would allow any such testimony.

And just for the tallybooks, I have a problem with the way you worded that. It suggests that Wolfe and Hoffman hired them specifically to say PR wrote the note. Well, I know that at least three of them--Gideon Epstein, Larry Ziegler and Richard Williams--did their analyses and came to their conclusions on their own before they even got into contact with Wolfe and Hoffman. Indeed, the only reason Epstein wound up on Wolfe's team was because he had already tried everyone else. He brought his analysis to Alex Hunter, who was on his way out. Hunter refused. He brought it to the then-new DA, Lacy. She rejected him out of hand. He even brought it to Lou Smit, several times. Smit wouldn't even read it. Finally, he settled on Wolfe and Hoffman.

I realize that a DA accepting testimony from experts they had not solicited may be improper. A defense attorney could argue that the expert is a hack seeking publicity. But it's one thing to try to USE such analysis in court; another thing altogether to reject it without even examining it, especially by people who CLAIM that they will pursue any evidence, no matter where it leads. That bothers me.

Also, Epstein is probably the best living handwriting analysis there is. And that's from people who know him. And they certainly have no reason to be overly flattering towards him, given his reputation as a maverick. Indeed, Epstein has stated that the reason he retired from document examination is because he's bothered by how it's become just another business. I'm not aware of anyone who would say even as a joke that Epstein would "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 himself out."

And if I sound like his public relations man, I apologize for that. I'm not trying to do that. I'm just trying to keep the record straight.

Why would I believe them and not the ones who claim it was written by JMK for example.(silly example but that's it in this case,tons of wanna be experts....which can't be trusted )

Why? Well, just off the top of my head, because unlike JMK, PR can be proven to have been there. Two, because they had a much larger material base and more time to do their analysis. Whatever that does for you.
 
I happen to believe the rn was written in order to keep the police away from the house that day and out in the field actually looking for JonBenet. Yes, it was also written to keep the focus off the Ramseys, but the main point was to let the Ramseys be alone with JB's body so that they could decide what to do with it. They knew LE would tap their phones and wait on a phone call, but Patsy could have easily been the one to wait on the call while John and one of his friends snuck her body out and placed it somewhere it could be found pretty quickly. They didn't want it to take days for her to be found but I believe they also didn't want her to be found in the home, either. Had she been found elsewhere, the rn would have been taken more seriously (believe it or not) and the Ramsey's would not have been suspected as quickly as they were.
 
I agree. I think the most likely purpose of the note was to have the police running around town. That is, to buy time until the body could be removed from the house. It wouldn't have been possible to remove the body earlier because neighbors would report the Ramseys coming and going from the house. When an opportunity to remove the body didn't arise, plan B was to try to incriminate the housekeeper and her male friends. The problem with this scenario though is that the Ramseys invited half of Boulder over that morning. If they needed an opportunity to remove the body and the RN had the purpose of leading the cops on a pointless search around town then they needed as few people in the house as possible. But agreed - deflection seems to be the main purpose of the note.
 
To be honest, police usually don't go running around the town looking for a kidnap victim, especially when there is a RN that tells the parents not to call police. The SOP is to put a trace on the phone line and wait for the call. In a REAL kidnapping, the call always comes. Not this one, though.
Police WILL go looking for a MISSING child, though, and with scent hounds, too.
NO one should have thought she was "missing". They were supposed to think she was kidnapped.
When that phone call never happened, it must have confirmed suspicions they were already beginning to have.
And as I have said before, the Rs never expected the police to stay at the house so long. They really thought police would just leave after a while, and never expected they would not be allowed to stay behind, at which time I feel certain they'd have retrieved her body from the wineceller and called police, saying she was brought back dead because they talked to people. As a matter of fact, that is also the reason why they called all those people to come over that morning. The note said not to call/talk to anyone, even a stray dog, or she'd be killed. Well, they knew she was dead, so they had to give plenty of reasons for her to have been killed.
 
I'm somewhat sympathetic to your scenario DeeDee249. It possibly went something like that.

"the Rs never expected the police to stay at the house so long. They really thought police would just leave after a while, and never expected they would not be allowed to stay behind..."

Yes. I think that is possibly correct. But I am less sure about:

"at which time I feel certain they'd have retrieved her body from the wineceller and called police, saying she was brought back dead because they talked to people..."

The note specifically says they will be denied the body and she will be beheaded. So in that respect the note doesn't fit a premeditated plan to have the body returned. And what sort of kidnappers risk returning a body? More likely any kidnapper would dump the body and - if anything - ring to tell them where it was. Why include the threat of not returning the body in the note if the plan was to say it had been returned?

But I am sympathetic to the idea that the Ramseys willfully violated the terms of the note to justify the fact the girl had been killed. Seems a credible scenario.

Why - all the same - not try to sneak the body away from the house in the dead of night? Sure, the neighbors might see. But once you've rung the cops the chances of removing the body from the house without people watching are even less, aren't they?
 
To be honest, police usually don't go running around the town looking for a kidnap victim, especially when there is a RN that tells the parents not to call police. The SOP is to put a trace on the phone line and wait for the call. In a REAL kidnapping, the call always comes. Not this one, though.
Police WILL go looking for a MISSING child, though, and with scent hounds, too.
NO one should have thought she was "missing". They were supposed to think she was kidnapped.
When that phone call never happened, it must have confirmed suspicions they were already beginning to have.
And as I have said before, the Rs never expected the police to stay at the house so long. They really thought police would just leave after a while, and never expected they would not be allowed to stay behind, at which time I feel certain they'd have retrieved her body from the wineceller and called police, saying she was brought back dead because they talked to people. As a matter of fact, that is also the reason why they called all those people to come over that morning. The note said not to call/talk to anyone, even a stray dog, or she'd be killed. Well, they knew she was dead, so they had to give plenty of reasons for her to have been killed.
This is excellent reasoning! I never thought of it, but it would explain so much!!!
 
To be honest, police usually don't go running around the town looking for a kidnap victim, especially when there is a RN that tells the parents not to call police. The SOP is to put a trace on the phone line and wait for the call. In a REAL kidnapping, the call always comes. Not this one, though.
Police WILL go looking for a MISSING child, though, and with scent hounds, too.
NO one should have thought she was "missing". They were supposed to think she was kidnapped.
When that phone call never happened, it must have confirmed suspicions they were already beginning to have.
And as I have said before, the Rs never expected the police to stay at the house so long. They really thought police would just leave after a while, and never expected they would not be allowed to stay behind, at which time I feel certain they'd have retrieved her body from the wineceller and called police, saying she was brought back dead because they talked to people. As a matter of fact, that is also the reason why they called all those people to come over that morning. The note said not to call/talk to anyone, even a stray dog, or she'd be killed. Well, they knew she was dead, so they had to give plenty of reasons for her to have been killed.

If your theory above is correct and one or all of the Rs did kill their daughter, then they had 6 hours to decide what to do with the body.

The sensible thing would have been to have disposed of it in a nearby reservoir or in the hills and then in the morning ring the Police to say she was missing from her bed.

You would then theorise that the police would run around all over the place looking for her and eventually she would be found. The water/animals would have taken away most of the evidence, so there would be just a head bash from a blunt object, perhaps some sexual abuse (if what you suggest about the Rs is correct) and they would not be suspected at all.

Your whole scenario of them strangling and sexually abusing to cover up for prior abuse or alternatively to have killed her because she wet the bed and then 'staging' the murder/kidnap, including writing the RN in your own hand with paper and pen from your own house and then finding her where you hid her earlier makes no sense.

In fact the more I read of the RDI theories the less sense they make.
 
...considering their belief system it makes a lot of sense to me...she had to have a proper burial,"getting rid" of the body would have been out of the question...IDI to me does not make sense anymore considering all the lies the R's told,if they were not covering for themselves or someone else that would not have made any sense.
I do still think it's very possible that it was BR,along with someone else,someone he met online?someone that sparked his imagination?...I know most believe PR wrote the RN but the RN sounds so immature to me,the RN makes me think adolescent .....
 
...considering their belief system it makes a lot of sense to me...she had to have a proper burial,"getting rid" of the body would have been out of the question...IDI to me does not make sense anymore considering all the lies the R's told,if they were not covering for themselves or someone else that would not have made any sense.
I do still think it's very possible that it was BR,along with someone else,someone he met online?someone that sparked his imagination?...I know most believe PR wrote the RN but the RN sounds so immature to me,the RN makes me think adolescent .....

I can't believe you can actually say they (all or one) killed their daughter by bashing and garrotting her, following sexually abusing her, and then stage a complex coverup to save themselves, and on the other hand say that they were too religious to get rid of the body.
 
I don't believe in the cover up to save themselves.
If PR I believe this was pre meditated .....and it was all about religion.If PR was molested and found out the same thing was happening to JB she saved her by sparing her a life like she had.Saved By The Cross...victory.
 
I can't believe you can actually say they (all or one) killed their daughter by bashing and garrotting her, following sexually abusing her, and then stage a complex coverup to save themselves, and on the other hand say that they were too religious to get rid of the body.


Whoever killed her thought enough of her to wrap her in a blanket.

Patsy wrote the note, but IMO wasn't thinking that far ahead...John thought the police would find her, grew impatient and had to go get her himself because LE was so incompetent that morning.

If there was any plan to get rid of the body, it involved that plane John called for. I doubt they would just toss her somewhere, Patsy couldn't pass up a chance to wear a black veil and stick a tiara on JonBenet's head one last time.

In my mind it shows a consciousness of guilt that they NEVER actively wanted/sought justice, and accepted her death so easily ...Patsy with her "JonBenet will never suffer the pain of cancer" crapola.
 
To be honest, police usually don't go running around the town looking for a kidnap victim, especially when there is a RN that tells the parents not to call police. The SOP is to put a trace on the phone line and wait for the call. In a REAL kidnapping, the call always comes. Not this one, though.
Police WILL go looking for a MISSING child, though, and with scent hounds, too.
NO one should have thought she was "missing". They were supposed to think she was kidnapped.
When that phone call never happened, it must have confirmed suspicions they were already beginning to have.
And as I have said before, the Rs never expected the police to stay at the house so long. They really thought police would just leave after a while, and never expected they would not be allowed to stay behind, at which time I feel certain they'd have retrieved her body from the wineceller and called police, saying she was brought back dead because they talked to people. As a matter of fact, that is also the reason why they called all those people to come over that morning. The note said not to call/talk to anyone, even a stray dog, or she'd be killed. Well, they knew she was dead, so they had to give plenty of reasons for her to have been killed.

Patsy musta missed that part of the note when she just "skimmed it".... eyeroll.....is that what we are supposed to believe?
 
If your theory above is correct and one or all of the Rs did kill their daughter, then they had 6 hours to decide what to do with the body.

The sensible thing would have been to have disposed of it in a nearby reservoir or in the hills and then in the morning ring the Police to say she was missing from her bed.

You would then theorise that the police would run around all over the place looking for her and eventually she would be found. The water/animals would have taken away most of the evidence, so there would be just a head bash from a blunt object, perhaps some sexual abuse (if what you suggest about the Rs is correct) and they would not be suspected at all.

Sensible? I don't know. Too much risk of being spotted on the road. If nothing else, the garage door of their house made a godawful noise. Everyone in the neighborhood would have heard it and known what it was.

Your whole scenario of them strangling and sexually abusing to cover up for prior abuse or alternatively to have killed her because she wet the bed and then 'staging' the murder/kidnap, including writing the RN in your own hand with paper and pen from your own house and then finding her where you hid her earlier makes no sense.

I don't EXPECT it to.

In fact the more I read of the RDI theories the less sense they make.

Whose fault is that?

I can't believe you can actually say they (all or one) killed their daughter by bashing and garrotting her, following sexually abusing her, and then stage a complex coverup to save themselves, and on the other hand say that they were too religious to get rid of the body.

I don't think it was them being too religious, per se.
 
I can't believe you can actually say they (all or one) killed their daughter by bashing and garrotting her, following sexually abusing her, and then stage a complex coverup to save themselves, and on the other hand say that they were too religious to get rid of the body.

I have to comment here. There is a HUGE difference in being a Christian and being religious. If one is a Christian it is obvious in their lifestyle and their words and actions. If one is religious, they go to church in order to be seen as something they are not as well as to up their social status. I guess it's up to God to determine whether the Ramseys were religious or Christians. But believe this, God hates those who have a form of religion instead of actually loving Jesus Christ and following His commandments and He did command us to discern the Spirit of those in question.
 
Whoever killed her thought enough of her to wrap her in a blanket.

Patsy wrote the note, but IMO wasn't thinking that far ahead...John thought the police would find her, grew impatient and had to go get her himself because LE was so incompetent that morning.

If there was any plan to get rid of the body, it involved that plane John called for. I doubt they would just toss her somewhere, Patsy couldn't pass up a chance to wear a black veil and stick a tiara on JonBenet's head one last time.

In my mind it shows a consciousness of guilt that they NEVER actively wanted/sought justice, and accepted her death so easily ...Patsy with her "JonBenet will never suffer the pain of cancer" crapola.

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If your theory above is correct and one or all of the Rs did kill their daughter, then they had 6 hours to decide what to do with the body.

The sensible thing would have been to have disposed of it in a nearby reservoir or in the hills and then in the morning ring the Police to say she was missing from her bed.

You would then theorise that the police would run around all over the place looking for her and eventually she would be found. The water/animals would have taken away most of the evidence, so there would be just a head bash from a blunt object, perhaps some sexual abuse (if what you suggest about the Rs is correct) and they would not be suspected at all.

Your whole scenario of them strangling and sexually abusing to cover up for prior abuse or alternatively to have killed her because she wet the bed and then 'staging' the murder/kidnap, including writing the RN in your own hand with paper and pen from your own house and then finding her where you hid her earlier makes no sense.

In fact the more I read of the RDI theories the less sense they make.

If you go back and read my post, it wasn't MY theory that police would run all around the place looking for a kidnapped child. Just the opposite. I did say that they would go looking for a MISSING child. But in this case she was presumed kidnapped, not missing.
Because I believe that JB was not the victim of an INTENDED murder, I simply cannot imagine them disposing of her body in a lake, river, dumpster, woods, throwing her out of a plane, or any other scenario involving getting rid of her body. Yes, insects and animals would have prevented that "open coffin in the pink pageant dress with tiara" funeral for sure.
I just think they couldn't bear to have her body ravaged like that. Before you counter with "but yet you believe they could strangle her and violate her with a paintbrush"- yes, I do. Because in that case they were protecting themselves or other family members, and as horrible as that was, they felt they had to do it.
The strangulation may or may not have been purely staging, depending on whether you theorize it was done as part of sexual assault or whether it was done to provide an instantly recognizable cause of death, and one that "fit" a kidnapping.
 
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Thanks Dave!

You know, I've often wonder if pageant moms would qualify as suffering from some form of Munchausen By Proxy.

As JonBenet grew older and begun to have a little mind of her own, it must have infuriated Patsy. imo John's comment about JonBenet being a "handful" ....
 
If you go back and read my post, it wasn't MY theory that police would run all around the place looking for a kidnapped child. Just the opposite. I did say that they would go looking for a MISSING child. But in this case she was presumed kidnapped, not missing.
Because I believe that JB was not the victim of an INTENDED murder, I simply cannot imagine them disposing of her body in a lake, river, dumpster, woods, throwing her out of a plane, or any other scenario involving getting rid of her body. Yes, insects and animals would have prevented that "open coffin in the pink pageant dress with tiara" funeral for sure.
I just think they couldn't bear to have her body ravaged like that. Before you counter with "but yet you believe they could strangle her and violate her with a paintbrush"- yes, I do. Because in that case they were protecting themselves or other family members, and as horrible as that was, they felt they had to do it.
The strangulation may or may not have been purely staging, depending on whether you theorize it was done as part of sexual assault or whether it was done to provide an instantly recognizable cause of death, and one that "fit" a kidnapping.


It was always all about appearances.

............While dishes are laying everywhere, kitchen countertops are filthy first thing in the morning, clothes tossed all over the floor.
 
I am mainly concerned with the ransom note, and I try to analyse it item by item. At present I am trying to answer one simple question: what “small foreign faction” are we supposed to have brought to mind by this note? To what “foreign faction” is the note alluding? Is it a particular foreign faction or is it meant to be vague and generic?

One possibility is that we should think of a Muslim faction in the al-Qaeda style. But the murder was in 1996. If it had been post-911 then “small foreign faction” might definitely have been suggesting radical Muslims. Nevertheless, it was in September 1996 that Bin Laden declared a fatwa of hostility upon the USA. So Muslim extremists is a still a possibility in that context.

(I’m not suggesting here that any foreign faction was actually involved, by the way. I don’t think for a minute that Bin Laden and co might have killed JBR! I think the note is all misinformation, but what is it that we are supposed to think?)

All the same, there is nothing else in the note that points in this direction. No other hints. It doesn’t end with Allahu akbar! or other Muslim extremist slogans, for example.

On the contrary, I think that the signature “Victory SBTC” is most likely Christian in intent. Saved By The Cross. (And I think the opening “Listen carefully” may have a Biblical tone too.)

So what other “foreign factions” if not Arabs? Latinos? Mexicans? Nicuraguans? Canadians!? In a Cold War context one might think “Cubans”, but not in Boulder in 1996.

One possibility I have considered is: Koreans. And, in that case, the “foreign faction” may mean a faction within the church. Americanized Koreans are into exactly the same style of Christianity as the Ramseys, and indeed the Ramsey’s church had/has congregations in South Korea. And there are Christian Korean communities in Boulder and Denver etc. since the 1950s.

Two things point to this identification. The word “Korea” on the paintbrush used as a garotte. And the threat of beheading in the note.

Post Iraq war we associate beheading with al-Qaeda, but probably not so readily in 1996. Whereas beheading was an infamous traditional mode of execution among Koreans.

Additionally: South Korea does lots of computer business. If you look at the computer literature of that period you’ll find that the phrase “Skills Based Technological Change” is being used routinely to describe the computer revolution then booming in South Korean society.

A case can be made for the "foreign faction" being Arabs, but it seems unlikely to me.

Can anyone add any thoughts on this question. What “foreign faction” are we supposed to have in mind here?

This is the strongest unexplored lead I've ever read here on this case. I'll add that what handwriting experts thought was disguised writing is possibly ESL attempting to write in English. The jittery horizontal and vertical (see samples abcde below) could also indicate a handwriting trait carryover from writing in another alphabet.

It would be interesting to know if the word Korea on the paintbrush was deliberately avoided when wrapping it and breaking it. Probably it was.

ETA: Someone who normally writes using Hangul would have this horizontal/vertical tendency that we see in the ransom note. That makes three things which point to this identification.

I have to ask though: How come it took so long to find another foreign reference within the evidence? I mean the ransom note author stated 'foreign faction' and it begs the question 'what foreign faction?'. And here's a foreign reference right in the main evidence that has been ignored.
 

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