What small foreign faction?

[Chrishope]

Is it just me or are there a number of you posting inappropriate topics on this thread whose subject is What Small Foreign Faction??

I cannot understand why you cannot go to the appropriate thread for this discussion on the paintbrush and stop trying to stifle the SFF discussion. If you are not interested in it -- fine.

Discussions often go off on tangents. I don't see why it should bothers you. Just skip over it and talk about North Koreans killing 6 year olds if you think that's worthwhile.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Didnt the ransom note say something about executing JBR, a six year old?

"Survivor Kim Jong-chol, 71, said his father, a South Korean border guard, had been forced to work for the conquering northerners, and then was executed by the southerners as a collaborator. More than a dozen relatives were also killed, including Kim's grandparents and 7-year-old sister, he said"

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Hotyh,

more than 80 miles dude,
San Fran?

Cho, a second generation Korean-American, Little Miss Korea = Los Angeles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Cho Wiki link to illustrate cultural acceptence of children's beauty contests among Korean-Americans

I dont even know what you're talking about.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Discussions often go off on tangents. I don't see why it should bothers you. Just skip over it and talk about North Koreans killing 6 year olds if you think that's worthwhile.

Thanks for your permission, I was getting worried for a minute.

Yeah usually digresses or is hijacked to bedwetting, soiling, PR's bowl fingerprints, prior abuse (a 'not known'), or what aunt gladys supposedly said to uncle harold that turns out to be exactly the smoking gun RDI was looking for but its all irrelevant.

 

[Tadpole12]

I dont even know what you're talking about.

Mornin'.
No worries.

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[freshwater]

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First off, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, and I'm a fence-sitter who has been leaning toward RDI. I really thought all of this recent Korea talk was a little loony, but then I read the ransom note again, and some of the sentence structure sounds a little bit like an Asian person for whom English may be a second language. (e.g. - "...deviation OF..." (instead of "deviation FROM") "...denied her remains for proper burial..." (instead of "for A proper burial") "...I advise you not to provoke them..." (seems like North Korea is always talking about provocation) "You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities." (weird sentence structure with the "as well as authorities" tack on at the end)

With that said, go to the above website. Use American Dollar as the Base and South Korean Won as the Target. Check out the exchange rate between the two around 12/25/1996. If my math is correct, $118,000 US Dollars equalled just about 100 million Won. If the goal was to get 100 million Won, and you divide that by an 847 (Won to USD) exchange rate, you get $118,063.75. Round that down to $118,000......perhaps because asking for exactly $118,063.75 would make your intention blatantly obvious?

I need to mull this angle over a lot more.

 

[freshwater]

HOTYH, do you find anything intriguing about these?:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=E6UaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Bi4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6640,3464547&dq=north+korea&hl=en

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Hunziker"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Hunziker[/ame]

 

[SunnieRN]

This is a thread about which SFF, so if you ridicule one person's theory on who this may be, expect a little RDI ridicule as well.

So only select individuals are able to post opinions on this thread? Very predjudiced if that was the intention of your post.

I also listed a SFF that is possible. See HOTYH's statement below please.

my bold.

We're all entitled to our theories, right?

Thank you for this common sense statement!

Boy, you really want to squelch the subject of this thread. How come working so hard to do that?

There are many, many other threads...

Umm, see your quote above please. How is offering an opinion squealching a thread? If you believe something, you post it. I do the same.

Hi Chrishope

An interesting theory, but what relationship does this have to the subject of this thread, "What Small Foreign Faction"?? I'm sure there are umpteen threads on which to expound your RDI theories, most of which will have similar themes.

See HOTYH's quote above please.

Is it just me or are there a number of you posting inappropriate topics on this thread whose subject is What Small Foreign Faction??

I cannot understand why you cannot go to the appropriate thread for this discussion on the paintbrush and stop trying to stifle the SFF discussion. If you are not interested in it -- fine.

Please check all posts you have made, including on this thread, for appropriateness. Discussions often lead to other pertinent information.

Well, I stand corrected. Those who have touted PR here as the writer of the RN have used her "Southern-ness" as evidence, with the "Gentlement" and "good southern common sense" wordings. That'll teach me to believe what I read on this forum. HOTYH was right then, it was nonsense.

It would be helpful to read DOI, where Patsy states herself that she is Southern. Even if you don't want to take other peoples word, you should be able to understand that she considered herself Southern.

How can JR use his "southern common sense" when he hasn't got any? He's not from the south. The ransom note remark was probably political innuendo referencing South Korea.

I respectfully disagree, since Patsy referred to them as Southern.

[quote]"Southerners take great pride in their homes, entertain frequently, and go so far as naming them in some cases." (Which by the way PR named their MI home.) I don't feel like typing the entire paragraph but in it PR is comparing the homes in CO to the southern homes she was used to.

On page 323 PR is talking about the wedding of her step-daughter Melinda and keeping the press away. In this paragraph PR is commenting on the National Enquirer reporting that she wore a pink-and-white checkered suit with white shoes. She says this:

"Didn't they know that no self-respecting southern lady would be caught in white shoes after Labor Day?"

Hmm, I would need the entire context here, but neither quote led me to believe PR was saying SHE was southern, but merely commenting on the way things were done in the south.[/QUOTE]

Are you actually SERIOUS? You can't believe Patsys own words, but you can believe that a crazed KFF killed Jon Benet.

I think it has to do with her pageant career. JBR would be quite a stark contrast with starving NK children. Polar opposites. Maybe they considered child beauty pageants to be wildly inappropriate in the face of a massive humanitarian crisis that affected mostly small children. Maybe they thought it was a grotesque display.

It helps to keep in mind that JBR was the one brutally murdered. She was the target, not JR. He was targeted indirectly because the ransom note was addressed to him.

True, JB was the target!! Good job!! I disagree with your 'theory' behind it however.

I'm just noting its JBR who seemed to be the target and not JR. If she was target for kidnap then it was due to pageant exposure? If she was target for murder maybe it was retribution for US callous response to starvation.

JBR was born on the anniversary of Hiroshima, right?
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How would a murdered Jon Benet end 'US callous response to starvation'? Just asking, as that makes NO sense whatsoever.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

HOTYH, do you find anything intriguing about these?:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAAIBAJ&pg=6640,3464547&dq=north+korea&hl=en

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Hunziker

Its the same month, found in a basement with a gunshot to the head, written off as suicide.

Riiiight.

Bill Richardson went to NK to negotiate his release. According to your Wiki link, NK had wanted $100,000 but didn't get it.

Other interesting possible links are submarine incident which started in Sept 1996 and ended the same week as JBR's murder, in which the US and ROK were 'denying the remains' of 24 NK infiltrators for 'a proper burial'. Really, its true. Also there are numerous reports of religios missionaries Korean-American brutally murdered with cords around the same time.

 

[freshwater]

How about the two rope burns on his neck?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

How about the two rope burns on his neck?

NK said he tried to kill himself. Maybe maybe not. I would wonder if the Alaska warrants were real or serious. I doubt it or maybe Mr. Richardson wouldn't risk life and limb?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

How would a murdered Jon Benet end 'US callous response to starvation'? Just asking, as that makes NO sense whatsoever.

Did Ted Kaczynski end tecnological revolution with his mail bombs? No.
Did Charles Manson start a race war by the Tate & LaBianca murders? No.

When child murder starts making sense, let me know OK?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

HUNZIKER DEAD-OFFICIALS SAY SUICIDE
N. KOREA HELD HIM AS A SPY UNTIL LAST MONTH

BY GEORGE FOSTER P-I Reporter

Thursday, December 19, 1996

Section: News, Page: A1


The complicated life of Evan Hunziker, held recently by North Koreans as a spy, ended yesterday in the basement of a seedy Pacific Avenue hotel where his body was found next to a .357-caliber pistol.
Hunziker, 26, died about 2:30 a.m. of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, the Pierce County Medical Examiner's Office said. An employee of the Olympus Hotel, where Hunziker lived, found the body in a locked restaurant-bar area of the hotel. There was no note.
Hunziker's father, Edwin Hunziker, a retired Army staff sergeant who lives nearby in suburban Parkland, blamed the death on his son's past drug use.
``The drugs did it," he said yesterday. ``They caught up with him."
Only last month, Evan Hunziker was freed by authorities in North Korea three months after being arrested after swimming, naked and drunk, across the Yalu River from China into the communist Korean state. Although Hunziker said he had been spreading the Christian gospel, North Korean officials detained the Tacoma-area native as a spy for South Korea.
U.S. Rep. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., who negotiated with the North Koreans for Hunziker's release, said yesterday that he was ``very saddened by this turn of events. Evan was a gentle young man who sought peace for all people. I express my heartfelt condolences to the Hunziker family."
Richardson, who last week was nominated by President Clinton to be ambassador to the United Nations, arrived in Japan with Hunziker the day before Thanksgiving.
Hunziker then flew to Sea-Tac Airport, where he told reporters that he had gone to North Korea to ``foster peace." He also said his captors treated him well.
However, his father said yesterday that he had been told by the State Department that Evan had tried to hang himself while detained by North Koreans for two weeks in a high-security jail.
``I saw the marks on his neck," Edwin Hunziker said.
For the remainder of his time in captivity, Evan Hunziker was held in a North Korean hotel under house arrest.
The young man, taller than 6 feet and weighing 250 pounds, would have faced arrest had he returned to Alaska, where an adopted brother lives and where Hunziker lived for much of his life.
Hunziker failed to complete anger-management counseling and get alcohol screening and treatment when he was sentenced in 1995 and 1996 for reckless driving, assault and violating a domestic violence court order, according to The Associated Press.
There were three warrants for his arrest.
Asked why his son would take his life, Edwin Hunziker shrugged and said, ``You don't know what's going on in people's minds." He added that he did not believe his son had been on drugs since his return from North Korea.
Seated at the kitchen table of his home, he said:``What I seen of Evan, he was a very troubled young man. Some days he acted depressed, and some days he was fine."
However, since his son's return from North Korea, Hunziker said, he had been ``a lot more cheerful."
On Monday night, he said, he received a call from Evan, and the two talked about a job prospect as an apprentice ironworker. ``It seemed like he was in pretty good spirits," the father said.

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Yep, found dead in the basement, presumably a suicide.

 

[SunnieRN]

Did Ted Kaczynski end tecnological revolution with his mail bombs? No.
Did Charles Manson start a race war by the Tate & LaBianca murders? No.

When child murder starts making sense, let me know OK?

Never. When does a KFF make sense? Not in the death of a 6 year old Boulder girl.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Never. When does a KFF make sense? Not in the death of a 6 year old Boulder girl.

Lucky me, I haven't assigned myself the task of convincing you.

Maybe some socialist 'group of individuals who disrespect' the US thought they would cast ire upon lawyering bonus-grabbing CEO fat cats and the whole lifestyle. Seems to have worked on RDI.

U know, there's a lot of socialist Koreans, right?

 

[SunnieRN]

Then I believe that Lockheed, the Ramseys, BPD and even the FBI would have been terrified. They would have been sure to investigate and stop a KFF from harming any additional "lawyering bonus-grabbing CEO fat cats and the whole lifestyle", 6 year old girls.

 

[BBB167893]

Keh?? HOTYH says the southern reference is junk. You agree none were from the south. Then you say they referred to themselves as southern? When/where did they do this?

PS This still is a SFF topic.

Perhaps we should continue this elsewhere, then?

 

[MurriFlower]

Perhaps we should continue this elsewhere, then?

Absolutely.

 

[MurriFlower]

Then I believe that Lockheed, the Ramseys, BPD and even the FBI would have been terrified. They would have been sure to investigate and stop a KFF from harming any additional "lawyering bonus-grabbing CEO fat cats and the whole lifestyle", 6 year old girls.

Lockheed didn't get it either. Perhaps it would have been different if JR was the one murdered.

 

[BBB167893]

When child murder starts making sense, let me know OK?

I second that. There's a guy around here who has often said that. Can't remember who just now...