What small foreign faction?

[Ames]

I'm glad you said this. We dont know that PR was involved in the murder, whereas we do know the ransom note author was.

The facts are the ransom note author's words:

foreign faction
disrespect for US
two gentlemen

14 years later there's no argument to invalidate this, but there is an argument that invalidates PR or JR involvement. The argument was clearly explained. A word to the wise...

The RN was a fake...why in the world do you not realize this? :banghead: Even JR said there was no SFF, that it was an inside job. I think that you are the only person in the entire universe that actually believes that the RN was written by some SFF. It's one thing to believe IDI, but to believe that fake RN was actually written by foreigners...is pretty much laughable.

 

[DeeDee249]

RDI could argue the R's said that's where the note was found to implicate the housekeeper,who would leave notes there for PR.
If IDI,the intruder must have been familiar with the R's habits to know that they would use the spiral staircase.
IMO after everything I read recently I believe PR said the note was found there because the note was written to herself from herself.It makes sense to her because it describes her mind set.So it would be at a place that makes sense to her as well,which would be the bottom of the staircase where she would normally find notes.

Lets not forget that Patsy also left notes FOR the housekeeper on those stairs, as well as leaving her handbags for LHP to clean out. It was Patsy's way of communicating with her housekeeper- a two-way street, and not just LHP's doing.

 

[DeeDee249]

my bold

This is fiction without basis in fact. Fiction ought to draw at least something from fact!

Its impossible to reconcile your idea with the crime scene photos of JBR, and the description of her injuries in the autopsy report esp. sexual assault injuries. Sorry but it simply doesn't work.

Its impossible to characterize the murder as anything but brutal. There are other injuries besides the severe head, neck, and vaginal injuries.

Who says fiction has to have some basis in fact? There is plenty of fantasy in fiction.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The RN was a fake...why in the world do you not realize this? :banghead: Even JR said there was no SFF, that it was an inside job. I think that you are the only person in the entire universe that actually believes that the RN was written by some SFF. It's one thing to believe IDI, but to believe that fake RN was actually written by foreigners...is pretty much laughable.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,486844,00.html

Beckner said he has invited a team of veteran investigators from state and federal agencies to join an advisory task force to "explore all possible theories about what happened the night JonBenet was killed."
The group will meet in the next few weeks to review the evidence and identify additional testing that might be done.
Beckner said he wants to go into the first meeting with no preconceived notions.
"We are open to all possibilities," he said.


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Maybe choose the one you like best?

Good: "We are open to all possibilities unless they make us laugh."
"Better: "We are open to all possibilities except foreign ones."
Best: "We are open to all possibilities that involve Patsy."

Hey the ransom note says foreign. I just figure the ransom note author knows more about it than you do. Its not my fault if it turns out to be true and nobody cared.

 

[SunnieRN]

You seem like a nice person although somewhat misguided. I'll tell you in the same tone RDI uses that neither JR nor PR had anything to do with the murder. JBR was murdered by a middle-aged asian male.

Although the perp likely wanted to see the reaction of local and federal LE to the mystery created by the crime, and wanted the mystery to cause his words which he thought were really important to be published globally. A megalomaniac who springboarded an agenda by creating a high profile murder. And wanted to show how little regard he paid to JBR's life because of a lifestyle.

Respectfully snipped by me.

So, you think this crime was perpetrated by a middle aged Asian megalomaniac yet you are saying that someone else is misguided? Why couldn't the R's team figure this out then? Why didn't they come up this accusation, naming the country and motivation for the crime?

As for 'the perp' wanting to see the reaction of LE, how did he know ahead of time that his words would be published globally? How did he determine this, as no one knew the R's would hire a PR team?

Oh and is this MAAM a Korean? Or do you have another nation in mind. Please excuse me if I missed the answer to this question, I've been out of town.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

"The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history." [Bertrand Russell]


megalomania (ˌmɛɡələʊˈmeɪnɪ&#601 — n 1. a mental illness characterized by delusions of grandeur, power, wealth, etc 2. informal a lust or craving for power

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FINAL DIAGNOSIS:
I. Ligature strangulation
A. Circumferential ligature with associated ligature furrow of neck
B. Abrasions and petechial hemorrhages, neck
C. Petechial hemorrhages, conjunctival surfaces of eyes and skin of face
II. Craniocerebral injuries
A. Scalp contusion
B. Linear, comminuted fracture of right side of skull
C. Linear pattern of contusions of right cerebral hemisphere
D. Subarachnoid and subdural hemorrhage
E. Small contusions, tips of temporal lobes
III. Abrasion of right cheek
IV. Abrasion/contusion, posterior right shoulder
V. Abrasions of left lower back and posterior left lower leg VI. Abrasion and vascular congestion of vaginal mucosa VII. Ligature of right wrist

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If I had to bet my life on lunatic vs. PR causing all these injuries, I'd choose lunatic for sure. I can't help it if you wouldn't.

​

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Respectfully snipped by me.

So, you think this crime was perpetrated by a middle aged Asian megalomaniac yet you are saying that someone else is misguided? Yes. Why couldn't the R's team figure this out then? They helped alot. Why didn't they come up this accusation, naming the country and motivation for the crime? Like BPD their scope is too narrow to be effective. Although JR recently refers to someone outspoken on capitalism. Did you know there's a billion of those in Asia?



As for 'the perp' wanting to see the reaction of LE, how did he know ahead of time that his words would be published globally? Little Miss Colorado brutally murdered on Christmas Day. How could it NOT be published globally? How did he determine this, as no one knew the R's would hire a PR team? Easy. Cant you determine this?

Oh and is this MAAM a Korean? The indication is stronger, as per the first post on this thread which is not mine. Or do you have another nation in mind. Please excuse me if I missed the answer to this question, I've been out of town.

NP. Responses in blue.

 

[BBB167893]

hotyh,I'm not talking abut PR planning and executing a crime with a clear head like a criminal would,a real kidnapper would have had thoughts like how do I not get caught ,where do I place the note etc as primary,clear thoughts in his head.
The PR I imagine committing this crime was obsessed with an idea,an idea that primarily made sense to her and only her.She had to do this.The placement and the content of the RN to me are an outcry ,when I say PR said she found it where she found it ,I'm not saying she said this as a strategy to divert LE from thinking she did it herself. She said it because she was convincing herself ,to justify her own actions to HERSELF not to anyone else it would make sense it had to be at a familiar place.Whatever happened to JB made sense,symbolic sense in every detail to PR,whatever was written in the RN made sense to PR because it is a mirror of her mindset and the placement of the RN had to justify it.

That's an idea worth pursuing, IMO.

 

[BBB167893]

If I had to bet my life on lunatic vs. PR causing all these injuries, I'd choose lunatic for sure. I can't help it if you wouldn't.

I'm BEGGING someone else to address that before I do!

Little Miss Colorado brutally murdered on Christmas Day. How could it NOT be published globally?

Careful, HOTYH. Talking like that got me branded as a lunatic by some around here.

 

[Ames]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,486844,00.html

Beckner said he has invited a team of veteran investigators from state and federal agencies to join an advisory task force to "explore all possible theories about what happened the night JonBenet was killed."
The group will meet in the next few weeks to review the evidence and identify additional testing that might be done.
Beckner said he wants to go into the first meeting with no preconceived notions.
"We are open to all possibilities," he said.


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Maybe choose the one you like best?

Good: "We are open to all possibilities unless they make us laugh."
"Better: "We are open to all possibilities except foreign ones."
Best: "We are open to all possibilities that involve Patsy."

Hey the ransom note says foreign. I just figure the ransom note author knows more about it than you do. Its not my fault if it turns out to be true and nobody cared.

Yes, I am sure that they are open to all possibilites, except the SFF one....which is just utterly ridiculous. The RN was a fake...created to mislead everybody....and it worked on you.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Yes, I am sure that they are open to all possibilites, except the SFF one..

Typical RDI reading stuff in thats not there.

I HOPE I'm wrong, believe me.

 

[BBB167893]

I HOPE I'm wrong, believe me.

That caught my eye, HOTYH. I'm legitimately interested. Why do you say that? (For the record, I hope I'm wrong, too!)

Tell you what: let's take this up elsewhere.

 

[BBB167893]

Q: Was this crime intended to frame the housekeeper?
A: Yes
Q: What evidence is there that suggests this?
A: The ransom note was found on the rear stairs.
Q: What? Really? Is there anything else?
A: The ransom note talks about things only someone intimate to the family would know.
Q: Like what?
A: JR's bonus.
Q: So PR threw a preloaded scenario at the housekeeper, to make it look like the housekeeper did it and blamed Korea?
A: Yes.
Q: Why wouldn't PR see that the housekeeper would have an airtight alibi just like everyone else had that night, and would be quickly eliminated by the police?
A: Cant think of everything what with all that panic. Besides PR was just an amateur, didnt know what to do.
Q: Doesn't that answer work for any phenomenon.
A::crazy:

HOTYH, you sing and dance as well as anyone I've ever heard of. But what the devil are you trying to say here?

 

[Ames]

HOTYH, you sing and dance as well as anyone I've ever heard of. But what the devil are you trying to say here?

He is mocking RDI....

 

[BBB167893]

He is mocking RDI....

I know that, Ames. But if I could find out why, I might be a step closer to opening his mind.

I'm glad you're here, Ames. I'm afraid I need you.

 

[Toltec]

Let's see...small foreign faction. Could it be the foreign faction that had dinner at Pasta Jays on December 18th?

Paughs (Don) Boulder home was just down the street from a restaurant called Pasta Jay's in which John Ramsey happened to be an invester. When the detective's interviewed Paugh on January 9, he said that on December 18th, Jeff Merrick and his wife Kathy, Jason Perkins, Cameron Hindson, Tom Carson and Mike Glynn had eaten together at Pasta Jay's. Paugh thought it strange that former Access Graphic's employees were dining with a current employee like Tom Carson. PMPT ppb, page 141

 

[Toltec]

The next day, January 17th, Thomas and Gossage continued an interview at Access Graphics with comptroller Susan Richart, who told them about Sandra Henderson, a former employee, who was in trouble with the law, and her husband Bud, each of them owed the firm $18,000...PMPT ppb page 169

So there you have it folks, the small foreign faction and the ransom amount explained away...

 

[joeskidbeck]

The next day, January 17th, Thomas and Gossage continued an interview at Access Graphics with comptroller Susan Richart, who told them about Sandra Henderson, a former employee, who was in trouble with the law, and her husband Bud, each of them owed the firm $18,000...PMPT ppb page 169

So there you have it folks, the small foreign faction and the ransom amount explained away...

Ahh, Don Paugh. Wonder why LE had so many questions for John concerning his condo and what kind of flight he took out of Boulder on the 24th? And wasn't it convenient for him to spot all these folks dining together? Just fit right in with that small foreign faction. Foreign meaning "no longer employees of AG", what else could it mean. These folks were American, were they not? Or, and I really like this, maybe the Paughs and Ramseys considered everyone not from the South to be "foreigners".
Unlike HOTYH, I think the sff was pure red herring. Why else would the Ramseys themselves not even believe it? Unless, of course, they knew for sure there was no sff.

 

[SunnieRN]

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Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
Respectfully snipped by me.

So, you think this crime was perpetrated by a middle aged Asian megalomaniac yet you are saying that someone else is misguided?

Yes.

Why couldn't the R's team figure this out then?

They helped alot.

Why didn't they come up this accusation, naming the country and motivation for the crime?

Like BPD their scope is too narrow to be effective. Although JR recently refers to someone outspoken on capitalism. Did you know there's a billion of those in Asia?



As for 'the perp' wanting to see the reaction of LE, how did he know ahead of time that his words would be published globally?

Little Miss Colorado brutally murdered on Christmas Day. How could it NOT be published globally?

How did he determine this, as no one knew the R's would hire a PR team?

Easy. Cant you determine this?

Oh and is this MAAM a Korean?

The indication is stronger, as per the first post on this thread which is not mine. Or do you have another nation in mind.

Please excuse me if I missed the answer to this question, I've been out
town.


Wow, since you put your responses within my post, I had to divide it the best I could.

At one point you say the R's team helped you figure the MAAM theory out, yet you say they as well as the BPD were using to narrow a scope to name a country. Have you contacted them yet, to tell them you've figured out the crime? This would allow them to start searching for a suspect. Of course there is a chance they may feel you are a bit over reaching. Give it a try! Maybe you could record the conversation so we could all hear it!

As for the words being viewed globally, that is thanks to the RST. Pure and simple. How many children are murdered in America each year? JonBenet was not well known until after her murder. The R's PR team turned the case into a media circus. Not the fake RN.

Yes I easily can determine why they hired a PR team. To keep from going to prison and to muddy up the waters.

Yes I have another nation in mind. The Ramsey nation.

As for betting on a lunatic or Patsy, I don't believe Patsy killed JB. She was guilty of covering up the crime. There was a lunatic involved. A Ramsey.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Wow, since you put your responses within my post, I had to divide it the best I could.

At one point you say the R's team helped you figure the MAAM theory out, yet you say they as well as the BPD were using to narrow a scope to name a country. Have you contacted them yet, to tell them you've figured out the crime? This would allow them to start searching for a suspect. Of course there is a chance they may feel you are a bit over reaching. Give it a try! Maybe you could record the conversation so we could all hear it!

As for the words being viewed globally, that is thanks to the RST. Pure and simple. How many children are murdered in America each year? JonBenet was not well known until after her murder. The R's PR team turned the case into a media circus. Not the fake RN.

Yes I easily can determine why they hired a PR team. To keep from going to prison and to muddy up the waters.

Yes I have another nation in mind. The Ramsey nation.

As for betting on a lunatic or Patsy, I don't believe Patsy killed JB. She was guilty of covering up the crime. There was a lunatic involved. A Ramsey.

This post is unusually polite. Is there something wrong?