What was Adam Shacknai's role in support of his brother?

[SunnieRN]

When I have family come to visit, if they are independent types, I always give them keys to the house. That way they can come and go w/out being concerned if someone will be there when they return.

How would AS know if and when RN would be there? Why would he make his brother dependent upon his girlfriend to get in and out of the home?

I do not think she left the doors unlocked that night when she was showering and such. But if she decided to kill herself, she may have unlocked the door on purpose. She would want to be found in that case.

JS was at the hospital with Max when the three of them went to dinner. Do you really think he carried around an extra set of keys to hand out to AS? I think if it was the case that he had keys, that Rebecca would have given them to him, but when?

She picked him up at the airport, brought him to dinner with JS also, then they went home and AS said he went to the guest house, she to the main house. I would think he would have mentioned being given keys and by whom.

As for unlocking the door if she committed suicide, why? She was easily seen in the courtyard. AS would not need to enter the residence to find her.

 

[CDS22]

I can't understand why JS would give AS keys, when Rebecca was there and could let him in at anytime.

I am more concerned that if a door or doors were unlocked, that anyone could have possibly entered the house. Not just AS, but anyone.

He might have had a key to the home already. My brother has a key to my home and all of us have keys to a family member's vacation home, which is what this particular mansion was, a vacation home. Not saying he did, but it wouldn't be far-fetched if he did.

 

[CDS22]

Did the guesthouse have a kitchen? Could he have used a knife from there to cut her down? If it didn't have a kitchen, wouldn't he have a house key so he could access the kitchen?

 

[jjenny]

Did the guesthouse have a kitchen? Could he have used a knife from there to cut her down? If it didn't have a kitchen, wouldn't he have a house key so he could access the kitchen?

The AR says AS went into main house to get a knife.

 

[SunnieRN]

He might have had a key to the home already. My brother has a key to my home and all of us have keys to a family member's vacation home, which is what this particular mansion was, a vacation home. Not saying he did, but it wouldn't be far-fetched if he did.

Someone who is regarded as an insider on this case, who posts here, states that AS and JS are not close. Why would his brother give him a key if they are not close? Seems to make it a bit far fetched in my way of thinjing.

 

[elementry]

Did the guesthouse have a kitchen? Could he have used a knife from there to cut her down? If it didn't have a kitchen, wouldn't he have a house key so he could access the kitchen?

The mansion kitchen was right under the death balcony I believe. Likely a door right on the side facing to the servant quarters attached to the garage.

 

[ehough22]

I personally don't find it all that far fetched that Rebecca may have left the house unlocked- she had a guest in the guest house. Perhaps his presence made her feel safe or maybe she left it unlocked in case he wanted to come into the main house for a snack or if he needed her for something. It actually seems kind of rude to lock out your guest, in a way! Are there multiple doors? Perhaps she locked the front door but left the door most accessible to Adam unlocked.

 

[mentalsolstice]

I personally don't find it all that far fetched that Rebecca may have left the house unlocked- she had a guest in the guest house. Perhaps his presence made her feel safe or maybe she left it unlocked in case he wanted to come into the main house for a snack or if he needed her for something. It actually seems kind of rude to lock out your guest, in a way! Are there multiple doors? Perhaps she locked the front door but left the door most accessible to Adam unlocked.

ITA with you. Perhaps the home's exterior doors/gates were locked while doors facing into the courtyard were unlocked. It's also possible that JS gave his own key to AS at dinner, knowing that he (JS) wouldn't be needing it as long as Max is in the hospital, and that RNZ would be either with him (JS) with her key or would be able to let him when he did come home.

I think there is some over-think going on here, or some are applying their own personal habits/rules to people they don't know.

 

[CDS22]

The mansion kitchen was right under the death balcony I believe. Likely a door right on the side facing to the servant quarters attached to the garage.

Thanks.

Doesn't the term "death balcony" sound gruesome? I wonder if that poor family will ever be able to return to their home.

 

[4Jacy]

I wonder why AS did not stay at the Ronald McDonald House with his brother. I would think that DS and her sister/family had their own room. That would leave JS in a room by himself. If AS was there to comfort his brother, what better way than to stay with him at the RMcDH?

There would be no restriction for him to stay there. He was a relative of a patient at Children's Hospital. He could have come and gone to the hospital as he pleased. He would not have had to rely on RN to transport him back and forth. But I guess she only did that on Tuesday......

Wonder if AS went to RMcDH after he found RN and before he left to go back to Memphis.

Do we know if he went from CA to AZ (for MS's service) and then home to TN?

BBM

I just can't wrap my mind around this RMcD Hotel. I have stayed at hospitals with my husband, children, mother, father, cousin, great aunt. Some of them were very serious, some were dying, and I wouldn't have left the hospital for anything in the world! I've slept in chairs, chair lounges, 10 inch ledges in the hospital room. Why would anyone, ever, leave their child that had a very good chance of not make it? This boils my blood!!

 

[CDS22]

BBM

I just can't wrap my mind around this RMcD Hotel. I have stayed at hospitals with my husband, children, mother, father, cousin, great aunt. Some of them were very serious, some were dying, and I wouldn't have left the hospital for anything in the world! I've slept in chairs, chair lounges, 10 inch ledges in the hospital room. Why would anyone, ever, leave their child that had a very good chance of not make it? This boils my blood!!

Sometimes hospitals make you leave or suggest one parent leave at a time so that parents can get their rest. When my friend's little girl was dying of cancer, they allowed one parent at a time to be with her, but they didn't want both parents staying around the clock. There just isn't always room for two adults to sleep in a room around a dying child who's got a lot of equipment attached to them.

 

[4Jacy]

Sometimes hospitals make you leave or suggest one parent leave at a time so that parents can get their rest. When my friend's little girl was dying of cancer, they allowed one parent at a time to be with her, but they didn't want both parents staying around the clock. There just isn't always room for two adults to sleep in a room around a dying child who's got a lot of equipment attached to them.

Well, I live on the Main Line of Philadelphia and my father lived in Naples, FL (by the way, the BEST hospital I've ever known.) NO ONE told us to leave, ever. If they had, it would have been a war. We never interferred in any way with the machinery, sometimes we would have a chair or two outside the door, but we never disturbed. I just can't unerstand how ANY parent could leave a child near death to get a comfortable, or probably not so comfortable night's sleep. I wouldn't have left his side for ONE MOMENT, and I bet most of the people here would not either.[/B]

 

[SophieRose]

BBM

I just can't wrap my mind around this RMcD Hotel. I have stayed at hospitals with my husband, children, mother, father, cousin, great aunt. Some of them were very serious, some were dying, and I wouldn't have left the hospital for anything in the world! I've slept in chairs, chair lounges, 10 inch ledges in the hospital room. Why would anyone, ever, leave their child that had a very good chance of not make it? This boils my blood!!

During pc LE said JS was at the hospital during that time, did not mention RMcD House, which was mentioned in the police report. Even so, many times doctors & nurses will tell a relative to go and eat, get sleep, that they won't be any good for their loved one in that shape, that they need to also take care of themselves to be able to take care of loved one.

 

[4Jacy]

During pc LE said JS was at the hospital during that time, did not mention RMcD House, which was mentioned in the police report. Even so, many times doctors & nurses will tell a relative to go and eat, get sleep, that they won't be any good for their loved one in that shape, that they need to also take care of themselves to be able to take care of loved one.

Why don't we leave it at agree to disagree. I wouldn't have caredd one iodo what any doctor, nurse, hospital said, I/we were staying. Who would care about THEIR COMFORT at a time like this. This is my OO, but it is my most heartfelt truth. YOU DO NOT LEAVE ANYONE ALONE IN A HOSPITAL THAT COULD BE DYING. THEY NEED YOU THERE, IF YOU KNOW IT OR NOT!

 

[sorrell skye]

Why don't we leave it at agree to disagree. I wouldn't have caredd one iodo what any doctor, nurse, hospital said, I/we were staying. Who would care about THEIR COMFORT at a time like this. This is my OO, but it is my most heartfelt truth. YOU DO NOT LEAVE ANYONE ALONE IN A HOSPITAL THAT COULD BE DYING. THEY NEED YOU THERE, IF YOU KNOW IT OR NOT!

I've fortunately never experienced a child dying in the hospital. However, I have experienced a child having emergency surgery & recuperating afterward in the hospital, and during that time I slept on a couch in my daughter's hospital room, despite how uncomfortable it was.

I never wanted to be more than a few feet from her, even though there were many qualified nurses on staff to care for her. I wanted to be there for her, so she wouldn't be afraid. I wanted to be there for her, so she would know she wasn't alone. I wanted to be there for her, because I love(d) her.

 

[4Jacy]

I've fortunately never experienced a child dying in the hospital. However, I have experienced a child having emergency surgery & recuperating afterwards in the hospital, and during that time I slept on a couch in my daughter's hospital room.

I never wanted to be more than a few feet from her, even though there were many qualified nurses nearby to care for her.

God bless you, what a good person and parent you are. It's all about family. Thank you for sharing.

 

[4Jacy]

Sometimes hospitals make you leave or suggest one parent leave at a time so that parents can get their rest. When my friend's little girl was dying of cancer, they allowed one parent at a time to be with her, but they didn't want both parents staying around the clock. There just isn't always room for two adults to sleep in a room around a dying child who's got a lot of equipment attached to them.

There is always room if a child, parent, sibling is dying. Even if you have to wait outside on a straight back chair. Who the he// cares what hospitals make or suggest. I am a woman, but no hospital has ever, nor will they ever put me out. EVER!

 

[SophieRose]

I've fortunately never experienced a child dying in the hospital. However, I have experienced a child having emergency surgery & recuperating afterward in the hospital, and during that time I slept on a couch in my daughter's hospital room, despite how uncomfortable it was.

I never wanted to be more than a few feet from her, even though there were many qualified nurses on staff to care for her. I wanted to be there for her, so she wouldn't be afraid. I wanted to be there for her, so she would know she wasn't alone. I wanted to be there for her, because I love(d) her.

I guess the S's are horrible people to many. I don't wish to judge them at that time.

 

[CDS22]

There is always room if a child, parent, sibling is dying. Even if you have to wait outside on a straight back chair. Who the he// cares what hospitals make or suggest. I am a woman, but no hospital has ever, nor will they ever put me out. EVER!

The Shacknais were with Max when he died.

 

[sorrell skye]

I guess the S's are horrible people to many. I don't wish to judge them at that time.

I have never said (or even thought) the S's are horrible people. My heart breaks for both of Max's parents for the tragic loss of their precious little boy. Last night, as I was trying to fall asleep, I was crying for DS because I know how I would feel if I lost my child.

My post was about my own personal experience & feelings when my daughter had emergency surgery.