What will Cindy's Role be in Upcoming Events?

[MissJames]

Thank you MissJames and love your thoughtful responses to my ongoing questioning. I'm not 100% percent positive in my statements - I am saying to myself - what if CA isn't as evil as we see her as being?

I try to imagine this happened to me - and question if I would have been suspicious as we say Cindy should have been, or thinking as clear headed as we've said she should have been. The sheer shock of having Caylee gone, then to believe she is kidnapped, then to hear she is probably dead, then to hear my own troubled daughter is probably the killer would have sent me into such a terrible morass of a tailspin I don't know what I would have done. Would I have acted like CA? Probably not but this didn't happen to me.

And you are right, so much can happen in the next three months - will we see JB turn on CA after he has used her all this time? She has been very valuable to him and he's worked hard to keep her where she is. My bet is yes - and how will CA react to that? I suspect very badly indeed. The evidence will pound and pound into CA, in a far different way than it is now, and yes, the State will lay out their evidence and experts will confirm it. I certainly hope CA has her angel led epiphany because to me she is the pivotal person at trial. JB knows ICA is guilty, ICA knows she is guilty, George knows, and the State knows. Can CA really refuse to believe the truth she knows is in her heart, as she looks at a picture of her beloved grand daughter day after day in court for two months?

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

You're killing me,LogicalGirl!

Go back and look at Cindy's initial reactions when she WAS in shock. Those were much easier to believe . It's what she has done since ,after the initial shock, that is despicable.Maybe not evil,but certainly not nice and not normal.
Cindy continues to backtrack,embellish and lie almost 3 years after this began. When does she start thinking clearly?

I really do care about people and actually tried to explain Cindy's anger with the public early on,but she turned on Tim Miller .Tim Miller! :waitasec:
:banghead:She is on my $%^# list.

 

[Solace]

You're killing me,LogicalGirl!

Go back and look at Cindy's initial reactions when she WAS in shock. Those were much easier to believe . It's what she has done since ,after the initial shock, that is despicable.Maybe not evil,but certainly not nice and not normal.
Cindy continues to backtrack,embellish and lie almost 3 years after this began. When does she start thinking clearly?

I really do care about people and actually tried to explain Cindy's anger with the public early on,but she turned on Tim Miller .Tim Miller! :waitasec:
:banghead:She is on my $%^# list.

Miss James,

If you watched the recent hearings, Cindy implicates Amy once again when she is asked by Baez about the first time she went to Tony's when AMY BROUGHT her (she implies that Amy had something to hide because she knew the place too well and had no problem getting there).

There is no limit to Cindy. So far the Anthony's have said Amy is a heroin addict, a liar, she knew Tony for a long time (I don't believe she did), supposedly that the police knew she was into heroin and someone, I forget who, but I was surprised when I read it told them they knew about Amy H.

 

[MissJames]

As a family member of a murdered loved one who btw, a cousin got in a relationship with the accused, and had a baby by him! Hard to believe I know, but true. Anyway, the other side of the family changed up on us completely during investigation & trial, complete with denial and betrayal. My DSIL was a 17 year old child, and he was a jealous bf who shot her during a breakup, but bc he had gotten the cousin pregnant during bail time, they stuck to him and her like glue, and threw us and my DSIL away. My DH was devastated, as was the rest of our side of the family. He ended up getting 3 yrs bc of an incompetant DA (involuntary manslaughter, or a slap on the wrist,whichever u prefer) and they are not together anymore. The child that was born is a totally innocent bystander, and I will not allow myself or my family to mistreat her, even though we don't communicate w/them often.
My point is this: they were always shady people, who I never trusted. Sometimes we have to trust ourselves to say no, they're not gonna do the right thing this time, last time, or ever! And that's what I think CA's gonna prove to be, an enabler family member, who raised trash, and to keep from looking like a failure, will keep up the facade. Too Bad For Caylee, I wish it was different for her, all the way around. These DAs want justice for her, as do we, and with God's Help I'm sure they'll make it happen. Sorry for the rant, feeling a little fed up with this family, and my DH's as well. JMO

Oh my ! That is so sad. You have some good insight,but I'm so sorry it comes from such a horrible experience . It just blows me away to hear stories like this because it's so hard to believe people would turn on family that way. And for what? Murderers? WTH?
Thank you for sharing . I think we are all fed up,but it must hit so close to home for you :hug:

 

[Solace]

LC, I did notice the thumb rolling. She was really going to town. I didnt take further notice after that. Do you feel she was more relaxed when being questioned by LDB?

I just noticed that her voice was shaking. But I think she knew she was going to be talking about Yuri and saying how intimidating he was and she did.

How about when JDB objected to the length of her answer and Cheney said "but I think she is right close your Honor". And all chuckled.

 

[MissJames]

Miss James,

If you watched the recent hearings, Cindy implicates Amy once again when she is asked by Baez about the first time she went to Tony's when AMY BROUGHT her (she implies that Amy had something to hide because she knew the place too well and had no problem getting there).

There is no limit to Cindy. So far the Anthony's have said Amy is a heroin addict, a liar, she knew Tony for a long time (I don't believe she did), supposedly that the police knew she was into heroin and someone, I forget who, but I was surprised when I read it told them they knew about Amy H.

If not for Amy's help ,CA may never have found Casey,at least not as soon as she did.
Very nice way to say THANK YOU,Cindy :furious:
I'm really looking forward to hearing Amy's testimony.

 

[logicalgirl]

You're killing me,LogicalGirl!

Go back and look at Cindy's initial reactions when she WAS in shock. Those were much easier to believe . It's what she has done since ,after the initial shock, that is despicable.Maybe not evil,but certainly not nice and not normal.
Cindy continues to backtrack,embellish and lie almost 3 years after this began. When does she start thinking clearly?

I really do care about people and actually tried to explain Cindy's anger with the public early on,but she turned on Tim Miller .Tim Miller! :waitasec:
:banghead:She is on my $%^# list.

Yes, yes, I am acknowledging all of these things - and yes she was angry at Tim Miller who said he was looking for a dead child and yes how could she treat him like that after all he has been through and done for families who have lost their precious ones - yes, you are right she has been despicable.

Don't confuse my hope she will have a meltdown with you believing I think she has an excuse or a reason for her bad behavior - most of it she should and hopefully will answer to.

We have traveled far with this discussion but let me bring it back to what I was originally posting on - which is what I think Cindy will be like at trial or what part she will play - IMO.

1) Hopefully a meltdown and public epiphany
2) Only her small amount of testimony with many T/O's from the courtroom.

No where is there denial of her many actions - occasionally a different interpretation of the reasons for her actions - but NO denying her actions at all.

 

[MissJames]

Oh my dear my heart breaks for you for such a terrible loss of a precious son - and yes, I can imagine the questions that must have wracked you and likely still do. So young with so much ahead of him.....

I also had the unfortunate time, in my 20's, of having a very close friend commit suicide by overdosing on her own prescription drugs and she was found lying across her floor with her phone in her hand. She was a drama queen, but full of life and excess. Did she mean it, was she wanting help or just going to say goodbye? After all of that searching we do, I finally had a conversation with her psychiatrist who said I have no answers to help you and in the end does it matter? She is gone.

You are right MissJames and I do not understand. There is a flame that burns in my soul that tells me to chose good over evil, hope over failure, and that salvation is always possible. Beyond that, I have nothing logical to explain my thoughts.

And thank you for your gift of your experience - how difficult that must still be for you to tell. Blessings and I hope one day your heart can only remember the joy of his being.

Now I think I need to retreat to my private corner and have a cry my heart out for our losses.

BBM

But you are LogicalGirl .......don't go ! :hug: I'll stop !
Right now I'm more mad than sad.Mad at Cindy.I can get quite worked up when I start thinking about all she's done.
Still time for redemption. Caylee needs a hero and it would be a jawdropping ,pleasant surprise if it turned out to be Cindy.

 

[HopeForUs]

If Cindy will please look at videos of her actions in her own depos and sworn testimony, then she might see how rude she comes across, which might be actually helping the prosecution in the long run! I hope she stays rude so that she can help her inmate daughter go on to prison (unintentionally of course, but I don't think she can help herself) JMO

 

[JSR]

There is a long list of parents who refuse to believe their child is cold blooded murderer
The Petersens and the Einwhistles come to mind immediately but am sure there is a long list of them.

But there is a huge difference between not believing your child is a cold blooded murderer and actively trying to lie and cheat in some attempt to frame another innocent person for a crime your child likely committed. Huge difference. I wouldn't lose any respect for Cindy for still believing and loving Casey. It's when you see her constantly lying and attempting to pass blame and frame other people.

I also firmly believe it was Cindy who sent DC out to Suburban. And if she did, I think there isn't anything you can do that would be worse than trying to find your grandchilds remains to further hide them and possibly not even allow her a proper burial all to save the person who killed her.

I don't think Cindy thinks Casey is innocent. I just think she's willing to literally do anything, up to and including framing another person, so that they do the time for a crime Casey did. That's where I draw the line.

I just think Cindy is so self absorbed with Casey and Caylee. I think a lot of what she does is self serving. I honestly don't think she knows where she, Casey and Caylee begin and end. I think it's all jumbled up and she thinks that by Casey being labeled a murderer or being a murderer reflects upon her. To some extent, I think it does, I think there is a lot Cindy could have done to perhaps prevent this. But I ultimately think Casey is capable murdering anyone so if she hadn't killed Caylee she would have murdered someone else.

Sorry for the rambling but bottom line is that I'm glad the whole lot of them aren't in my family and that I didn't marry into this family.

 

[LambChop]

So in other words JSR Cindy is looking for a scenairo she can accept?

 

[Tulessa]

Now see? This is why I love this site so good. Two people with differing views who actually are very considerate on one another's opinions. I am so DANG PROUD to be a WS member.
Does this make sense? :/

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM

But you are LogicalGirl .......don't go ! :hug: I'll stop !
Right now I'm more mad than sad.Mad at Cindy.I can get quite worked up when I start thinking about all she's done.
Still time for redemption. Caylee needs a hero and it would be a jawdropping ,pleasant surprise if it turned out to be Cindy.

Yes, Miss James all of those things - I am far more sad than mad also.

And I guess the final question for me to be answered is - is CA there supporting ICA because she wants her to be found innocent or is she there because she hopes the court will show mercy and spare her life with LWOP - and does she fear they will not show mercy unless she is there (per JB).

We have few moments for redemption and CA somehow still has some time - and I can only hope she uses it. But some of the time it is really hard to stay in that place of hope - I have to say that also.

 

[JSR]

So in other words JSR Cindy is looking for a scenairo she can accept?

Correct, at least that's what I think.

 

[tsitra01]

I just noticed that her voice was shaking. But I think she knew she was going to be talking about Yuri and saying how intimidating he was and she did.

How about when JDB objected to the length of her answer and Cheney said "but I think she is right close your Honor". And all chuckled.

I remember that remark from Cheney very well and I thought there she goes again trying so hard to lead in circles rather than being truthful. .when she starts to babble on and on it adds up to BS. .IMO. I don't see her changing regardless of what she sees and hears during the trial.

 

[Gma Kat]

But there is a huge difference between not believing your child is a cold blooded murderer and actively trying to lie and cheat in some attempt to frame another innocent person for a crime your child likely committed. Huge difference. I wouldn't lose any respect for Cindy for still believing and loving Casey. It's when you see her constantly lying and attempting to pass blame and frame other people.

I also firmly believe it was Cindy who sent DC out to Suburban. And if she did, I think there isn't anything you can do that would be worse than trying to find your grandchilds remains to further hide them and possibly not even allow her a proper burial all to save the person who killed her.

I don't think Cindy thinks Casey is innocent. I just think she's willing to literally do anything, up to and including framing another person, so that they do the time for a crime Casey did. That's where I draw the line.

I just think Cindy is so self absorbed with Casey and Caylee. I think a lot of what she does is self serving. I honestly don't think she knows where she, Casey and Caylee begin and end. I think it's all jumbled up and she thinks that by Casey being labeled a murderer or being a murderer reflects upon her. To some extent, I think it does, I think there is a lot Cindy could have done to perhaps prevent this. But I ultimately think Casey is capable murdering anyone so if she hadn't killed Caylee she would have murdered someone else.

Sorry for the rambling but bottom line is that I'm glad the whole lot of them aren't in my family and that I didn't marry into this family.

:yourock: :goodpost:

 

[kaRN]

CA's role during the trial? Grieving Martyr

 

[logicalgirl]

CA's role during the trial? Grieving Martyr

Ack I have retyped my answer to you three times and am still concerned about a T/O.

Maybe I'm safer to just say - I sure hope not!!!! :banghead: I'm sure I can sustain anger throughout the whole trial.....

 

[Baznme]

Do you think George and Cindy will remain together and be a support for each other through all of this?

They are all they've got.......is each other. I think they'll hang in.....in the long run......for Caylee. I just have that faith in them that they will. It is my opinion.

 

[MAMABEAR]

I think cindy's place in this trial will be the cop in the court room. She watches e-thang that goes on around her. Member the last time she told the guard that one man shouldn't be in the court room because he was a witness.

She is the boss and has to be in control of what is happening around her. I look for her to stand up at least once and "object" to something. Got my popcorn ready

 

[txsvicki]

I don't think it's going to matter what role Cindy plays. Of course she'll show up, and will probably dread all the abuse and theft she endured at the hands of her family coming out in trial. Every single person who was involved or got involved with this case (except for Casey's friends who ONLY spoke with police) made a fool of themselves, possibly harmed the outcome, and even harmed Casey's right to a fair trial. Cindy wasn't the only one, and is probably the only one suffering from ptsd and actual abuse.