What will Cindy's Role be in Upcoming Events?

[janine]

ITA... At the exact time CA was lying on the stand about not remembering putting the dryer sheets in the car ICA smiled. It was an "atta girl" smile.

BBM
At the risk of quoting ICA "absolutely". The funny thing is though, that it did neither of them any good. The lie was known by every single person in the room, including the the judge, who is the one they are supposed to convince during the Frye hearing. So silly to waste the energy when it does you no good. I'm failing to see the logic.
Judge sees it, SA sees it, the viewing 'audience' sees it, and the DT, most of all KNOWS it..........A victory only is ICA and CA's warped minds.
At the end of the day- her mother has only shown that ICA learned how to lie and manipulate from her mother, and not very well, mind you.

I'm glad they are amused because it's very difficult to 'high five' behind glass, but that's exactly what they'll be doing when ICA is sentenced to LWOP or DEATH.
Then it will be all of us saying 'atta girl'! :woohoo:

 

[krisskross]

LOL here is my thoughts on what they are trying to say and why it doesn't make much sense to me.

They are trying to say that a whole "can" of frebreeze and a bunch of dryer sheets would cause some chloroform in the trunk... ok I disagree but I'll give it to them for a second. What makes me dizzy is that they want me to think having the car airing out would make the chloroform more potent??? :banghead:

Bold mine

I think they want to introduce as many chemical compounds into that trunk as possible. So how fortuitous that Cindy' s memory improves with time and the right meds. I believe Baez sneakily wanted to get Cindy's new testimony :innocent: about the dryer sheets on the record. Previously we heard she just sprayed some febreze, now its a whole can/bottle. Instead of a solitary dryer sheet origin unknown, we have :liar: several placed by CA throughout the car.

Dryer sheets are known to contain fatty acids. Where have we heard that before? :waitasec: I'm sure there might be a convenient enzyme in the new mix that puts velevta cheese to shame. Or who knows with any luck they might find a useful smidgen of animal fat derivative. And ofcourse, trace elements of chloroform are not to be sniffed at either. :floorlaugh:

 

[suepitzl]

Saw that Amil!! Originally Posted by Amil
ITA... At the exact time CA was lying on the stand about not remembering putting the dryer sheets in the car ICA smiled. It was an "atta girl" smile.Originally Posted by Amil
ITA... At the exact time CA was lying on the stand about not remembering putting the dryer sheets in the car ICA smiled. It was an "atta girl" smile.

They are all sick, just makes me want her to get the DP even more. However, I do not think that she will...LWOP, I suppose for this accused person, LWOP will put her in the general population and and she will just build another life. If she were on Death Row, she would still have her little cell all to herself and remain isolated, so she can build her own little world around her as she has done in her own private cell in the County Jail. MOO

 

[gngr~snap]

IMO we will see a new CA
(in the courtroom) ~ to fake the jurors out
A leopard cannot change it's spots
We WILL see the old CA making unendless excuses? explanations for every little thing that she feels was unfair to ICA in the media. We have not heard the last of CA ~… by any means!

MOO

 

[suepitzl]

What will Cindy's Role be in Upcoming Events?
IMO, she will have no role, other than to testify.

 

[suepitzl]

It will not happen in my opinion.
Quoted:

think she has served notice to the SA that she will pull the grieving grandma routine and the then new meds routine to challenge anything they bring from her deposition to impeach her.
I was very wary about CA and her new revelations.
Then I remembered how she lied during the agent of the state hearing and how well that worked for her.
Plus her shameless, not nearly strong enough a word, performance trying to clutter up the LE calendar timeline with her BS!
Oh! Happy day for me when she is charged with misprision, tampering with evidence, tampering with witnesses, lying to LE, etc.
Bring it, Cindy!! Bring it with your new quivery voice.

 

[zoey]

I'm still bothered by ca revelations that now she is on a different medication things are coming back to her...not how it happens---memories fade over time. She is making up time for that phone call that eventially led to LE arresting her daughter on a f whim....nothing more --- nothing less.

She will play the sympathy role---grieving over her lost granddaughter, while trying to save her own daughter (perhaps future grandchild? from said daughter????)---I have so many problems with that family not helping LE in anything related to finding their grandchild. Even when they were pusing the nanny thing---they never really sought her out---They did nothing to help find only to detour anyone looking for their missing grandchild. I don't recall anyone every using the term "grieving" for a "missing child" that early on---Sure they are upset BUT no one uses "grief" until said child remains are found....

 

[Pita]

BBM
At the risk of quoting ICA "absolutely". The funny thing is though, that it did neither of them any good. The lie was known by every single person in the room, including the the judge, who is the one they are supposed to convince during the Frye hearing. So silly to waste the energy when it does you no good. I'm failing to see the logic.
Judge sees it, SA sees it, the viewing 'audience' sees it, and the DT, most of all KNOWS it..........A victory only is ICA and CA's warped minds.
At the end of the day- her mother has only shown that ICA learned how to lie and manipulate from her mother, and not very well, mind you.

I'm glad they are amused because it's very difficult to 'high five' behind glass, but that's exactly what they'll be doing when ICA is sentenced to LWOP or DEATH.
Then it will be all of us saying 'atta girl'! :woohoo:

I so agree with you, Cindy is fooling no one whatsoever, she is making a complete fool of herself...IMO

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I wonder how CA will react when being deemed a "hostile" witness...:maddening:

CA is on the STATES witness list, yet she is doing more for the defense and it will come back and haunt her..for she is not doing the defense any favors...as a matter of fact, it will weigh heavily on the jurors and will not take kindly to her misstating the facts as she now remembers them...evidence doesn't lie, people do....if what CA states doesn't match the evidence the state will inform those jurors to not take anything CA states as facts since she has no credibility...wouldn't that hurt ICA more???

I await that day I hear the court clerk announce, Guilty as charged! If I can get through this trial in one piece with my nerves still in tact...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[zoey]

I wonder how CA will react when being deemed a "hostile" witness...:maddening:

CA is on the STATES witness list, yet she is doing more for the defense and it will come back and haunt her..for she is not doing the defense any favors...as a matter of fact, it will weigh heavily on the jurors and will not take kindly to her misstating the facts as she now remembers them...evidence doesn't lie, people do....if what CA states doesn't match the evidence the state will inform those jurors to not take anything CA states as facts since she has no credibility...wouldn't that hurt ICA more???

I await that day I hear the court clerk announce, Guilty as charged! If I can get through this trial in one piece with my nerves still in tact...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

ITA...memories fade---that is why they always state that delay is the best defense...:maddening:

I think she wants to be a hostile witness...goes with that grieving mom routine...except the grief is more for her daughter than Caylee...I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that time that ica was out on bond.....

 

[CBTampa]

Makes you wonder how many times that CA willl have to be reminded during her testimony that she is "under oath".

 

[jandkmom]

Currently it is looking like her role is to re-write history.

 

[Elphaba]

I wish... I wish Cindy's role was finding justice for Caylee first, with supporting Casey secondary. She can still support Casey, while putting Caylee first... it's called tough love. I would love to hear Cindy say or take the stance of: I love my daughter and will always love her, but she has to be held responsible for what she did to Caylee.

But that will never happen...

 

[LambChop]

ITA... At the exact time CA was lying on the stand about not remembering putting the dryer sheets in the car ICA smiled. It was an "atta girl" smile.

So far we have seen defense get GA to admit he would do anything to save his daughter's life. Now CA is on the stand and stating she made a misstatement originally about the dryer sheets and in doing so sending a message she will also lie on the stand for her daughter (although what does it matter as someone put dryer sheets in KC's car and Tony's Jeep, as well). Would this be a message to SA, do not use them because they will lie on the stand and therefore a veiled threat?

I don't see any significance in the dryer sheets that would be important enough to lie about. All that chloroform did not come from 2 dryers sheets and a can of room freshner. We'd all be dead for sure.

I do not see the judge putting up with this type of behavior and I'm sure he is fully aware of it. Also I think SA has known for a very long time that this could possibly happen and they seem to be fully prepared for it. The smug look on CA's face as if she thinks she's trumped them all. The pictures presented at the trial will be devastating for CA and will, I imagine, come back to haunt her.

 

[LambChop]

Makes you wonder how many times that CA willl have to be reminded during her testimony that she is "under oath".

I would think the questioning of the A's in court will be short and sweet by SA. Just one yes or no answer for the most part. They've both let SA know, in open court, their testimonies cannot be relied on. No one will have sympathy for parents who lie on the stand for a daughter who lied about the whereabouts of her daughter for 31 days. If neither of the parents are credible it reflects on the fact that their daughter has also lied about her involvement in the death of Caylee. Not a good move on their part and they will not SAVE her life by lying.

And every time CA gets on the stand she has to slip in how traumatic this is for her. But not so much that she can't go on national tv and promote how innocent her daughter is at the expense of Caylee. jmo

 

[Brattigirle]

Makes you wonder how many times that CA willl have to be reminded during her testimony that she is "under oath".

"Under Oath" means nothing to CA....IMO

 

[LinasK]

I have always thought that CA would help the defense. Not because she is against her daughter, but because she finally called 911...as any decent grandma would do. Even though, at that time, she did not fully comprehend that her daughter had murdered her granddaughter...she knew "somethings wrong...."

She still called 911 to help Caylee. No way in hell did she know what was to become. What has transpired since then...omg...no way would I want to be her.

I guess the question becomes....where does Cindy go from here?

Should I start a new poll?

And poll numbers are changing. 8 more people have voted that she'll help the defense...

Me too! I thought it was a new thread, and the poll #'s just weren't making sense!:waitasec: It would be good to be able to take a recount now to see if people still feel the same way. I think there's no way Cindy will be a no-show now, and I can't see her being anything but a hostile witness for the prosecution, so I voted prominent for the defense (even if it means throwing George under the bus).

I would.

 

[logicalgirl]

So far we have seen defense get GA to admit he would do anything to save his daughter's life. Now CA is on the stand and stating she made a misstatement originally about the dryer sheets and in doing so sending a message she will also lie on the stand for her daughter (although what does it matter as someone put dryer sheets in KC's car and Tony's Jeep, as well). Would this be a message to SA, do not use them because they will lie on the stand and therefore a veiled threat?

I don't see any significance in the dryer sheets that would be important enough to lie about. All that chloroform did not come from 2 dryers sheets and a can of room freshner. We'd all be dead for sure.

I do not see the judge putting up with this type of behavior and I'm sure he is fully aware of it. Also I think SA has known for a very long time that this could possibly happen and they seem to be fully prepared for it. The smug look on CA's face as if she thinks she's trumped them all. The pictures presented at the trial will be devastating for CA and will, I imagine, come back to haunt her.

BBM - Thank you Lambchop

I really wish posters would remember before panicking there is a huge difference between "saving his daughter's life" and having her found innocent.

Both CA and GA know she will be found guilty but they would rather see her do LWOP rather than face the death penalty. And there is nothing they can do or say to get her to be found innocent. IMO

 

[MissJames]

I would think the questioning of the A's in court will be short and sweet by SA. Just one yes or no answer for the most part. They've both let SA know, in open court, their testimonies cannot be relied on. No one will have sympathy for parents who lie on the stand for a daughter who lied about the whereabouts of her daughter for 31 days. If neither of the parents are credible it reflects on the fact that their daughter has also lied about her involvement in the death of Caylee. Not a good move on their part and they will not SAVE her life by lying.

And every time CA gets on the stand she has to slip in how traumatic this is for her. But not so much that she can't go on national tv and promote how innocent her daughter is at the expense of Caylee. jmo

I don't think CA will be allowed to ramble or "explain" her lies away in front of a jury.She will be stopped and asked to simply answer the question.

The A's have made statements and given testimony under oath.They've changed their stories and WILL be impeached by the State ,IMO, and the Jury will ask WHY :waitasec:
The damage to ICA's defense is done. The A's have already help sink Casey's ship.The trial is just placing the cherry on top.

 

[logicalgirl]

Does CA's "fabreeze" story on the stand in the recent hearing place her in any direct legal jeopardy? If she is on the stand called by the defense does she have any use immunity? And what are the consequences if her testimony differs from prior? Just how far can the state or court go to screen against obvious bullplop testimony, or prevent it from causing a surge in public investigative spending?

Legal jeopardy for what? It's no crime to spray Febreze, or to say you forgot you sprayed Febreze. There would be no "use immunity" that I know of, but there are also normally no consequences for contradicting your prior testimony, except that the jury will tend not to believe you.



If they say something in front of the jury that the judge has already ruled cannot be raised at trial, that could cause a mistrial. If it is done on purpose the lawyers could be sanctioned--probably monetarily.

This question by Faefrost and the answer by AZLawyer kind of surprised me when we are discussing reprisals for CA changing her testimony.