Where Precisely Do You Think Caylee Died?

[okiedokietoo]

Sorry if this has been answered: I did not remeber hearing about scratches on the trunk - Do you have a link to that?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,411622,00.html

• An unclothed doll belonging to the tot and a washed dinnerware knife were among the items found in Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire, which had scratches on its trunk. The car has been a focus of the investigation and was combed for evidence after an odor of human decomposition was detected in the trunk.

The info about the scratches is in the 400 released case documents on August 27th. There is a link on this page to the documents.

 

[ElementaryDearWatson]

I think she died in the trunk of Casey's car. :furious:
The car trunk that Casey used as her babysitter.:behindbar

Me too.

 

[BonKai]

I'm thinking KC's room because KC didn't want to sleep in that room when she was 1st bonded out of jail. Just a guess - by all appearances, KC doesn't care and has shown no remorse that her daughter is deceased.

 

[DJ3569]

At first I thought she suffocated her in some way in her bedroom while she was napping.

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about the theory JWG/Bond alluded to -- Caylee fell asleep in her carseat while Caylee pretended to leave for work on 6/16. KC returned to their home and got distracted and by the time she remembered Caylee, she was dead.

So, either Caylee's room or her carseat.

I also think the falling asleep in car theory is a good one!

 

[momtective]

My other theory would be the abandoned house. If she had drowned why would KC have put the tape around her mouth and head? I believe Caylee was rendered unconscious by some means (maybe chloroform) and then KC taped her mouth shut by wrapping the duct take over her mouth and around her head so if she woke up she wouldn't be able to pull it off. I think she then stuck Caylee in the trunk, went to TL's, then to blockbuster and while Caylee lay dieing in the trunk of the car, KC watched video's, ate popcorn and had sex with TL. JMHO

 

[BonKai]

That was a key point for me as well.
I didn't want to say it before somebody else did.

This thought crossed my mind last night when watching the 8/14/08 jail visit.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3178292#post3178292

 

[mydailyopinions]

Cindy said this, so we don't know if it is true. If it is true, I think that Casey was afraid that some of the protesters would break into the house and harm her. Also, George had the gun in his possession for some of this time, so I am sure they were all afraid and decided there would be safety in numbers with the gun for added protection. IMO, Casey is a ghoul and being in the room where Caylee died, if she died in the room, wouldn't phase her at all.

I don't think either of them are afraid, they swing bats, hammers and whatever else around with tons of people around knowing they could not take them all. I don't think for one second either of them are afraid in the night..only from what they have done because it haunts them in their sleep..but thats just my opinion.

 

[Litany]

I think it happened in Casey's room the night of the fight. Which may be the reason Casey slept on the floor in CA & GA's room while she was out on bond.

 

[HeartBroken]

Thank you everyone for those links concerning the scratches! From What I have seen and heard the 16th betweeh 2:30-3:00 or so keep popping up the Astro's, LP, similiar to the Decomp air samples to which she was on the phone for quite some time with I believe AH, then JG - I am thinking KC was not paying attention

 

[Imajica]

I remember there being a discussion about a step ladder being found or seen by the back fence in the Anthony yard that faces the rear of the huge wooded area where Caylee was found.

I wish I could remember where I saw that detail so I could verify the veracity of that info. However, if it's true that a ladder was placed by the fence to allow someone to climb over it, then it is very possible Casey set Caylee's body down in the spot that the Cadaver Dogs hit. After getting the ladder she picks the garbage bag up with Caylee in it and climbs over the fence and into the woods feeling like she was a total ninja.

Assuming all of that is factual than it is possible that Caylee was murdered somewhere on the Anthony property. Where? I couldn't even begin to guess without more information.

I do hope forensic evidence has already provided a clear idea of where and how death occurred. We may all wish we didn't know if the facts do come out. I still prefer the truth, however gruesome, to the wild directions my imagination can take.

 

[kageykaren]

We have now witnessed on video KC's anger, especially at CA. KC never really came out in that video stating Whyyyy! she was so angry. My feeling is that after the fight when it was bedtime KC was stewing with anger & wanting to be with TL. Caylee in KC's mind showed her the ultimate disrespect, crying, not wanting to sleep, and wanting Grandma. KC didn't want her mom hearing this because KC felt (sociopathic) that would be the ultimate slap in her face. My opinion only!

 

[my_tee_mouse]

"What is the location of Caylee's Death"

Car

(Getting into Casey's mind): Casey didn't want to have this child, was forced by her mother to have this child, was usurped in the family hierchy by this child.

The fight between CA and Casey brought out all her rage. Caylee was now Numero Uno, and Casey was expected to be an adult because of her. Caylee was to blame for all her problems, and so she killed her. The only point I'm unclear on is whether she killed her in the car in a fit of rage and stuffed her in the trunk or whether she stuffed her in the trunk and killed her. I want to think that it was the former.

To clarify: I want to think it is the former because death in the trunk of a car in Florida would be long and tortuous and extremely painful. One can only hope that the means by which this baby died was at least quick and painless.

 

[Gloryrebel]

I think it was the trunk. I really think she "put her to sleep" with chloraform and drugs with tape on her mouth. I think she went to check on her the night she "woke up in a sweat" with Tony and found her dead. She then took her to her house the next day laid her in the backyard while trying to think of making it look like an accident. The calls to parents were to make sure they were not home. She thought of the pool (hence the ladder) and realized that it wouldn't work. Hence back to the trunk. ( day reported car backed in garage) I think she dumped the body the day that her dad took the gas cans and wouldn't let him in the trunk. She panicked and dumped her body down the street. I was wondering if anyone knew the date of the gas can incident with her dad and the date she borrowed the shovel? I think she went back to "bury" the body after just "dumping her".....

 

[JBean]

I don't want to start any rumors about this because I really can't remember much about it. I definitely recall scratches + trunk, and then the whole issue seemed to disappear. But I never forgot it.

scratches were only on the outside. I will finish the thread and if no one has supplied a link, I will find it.

 

[txsvicki]

I think it began in Casey's room and Caylee finally died in the trunk while it was closed in the garage of the home. If George told the truth about seeing the girls, then I think it happened not long after he left.

 

[Oakley]

scratches were only on the outside. I will finish the thread and if no one has supplied a link, I will find it.

JBean, I found this link to a media report regarding the scratches on the outside of the trunk.
It is embedded in paragraph about halfway through article (second bullet item.)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,411622,00.html

 

[texas77878]

The car. After the big fight with Cindy, she took off with Caylee and was seen at some local motel/hotel talking on the phone. I think Caylee was probably very very upset and wanted her Grandma wanted her Grandma wanted HER GRANDMA! KC could not stand to listen to that for one more minute. She grabbed the duct tape she stole from Amy and wrapped it around Caylee's head over and over until she couldn't hear her anymore - because she was dead. Then toss her into the trunk.

 

[LeLe1953]

I don't want to start any rumors about this because I really can't remember much about it. I definitely recall scratches + trunk, and then the whole issue seemed to disappear. But I never forgot it.

Maybe this has been answered, I have not read all the way thru. There were NO scratches on the inside of the car. It was reported there were scratches on the outside of the car, maybe by the rear bumper, but not inside. We had a very good thread on this awhile back.

 

[jennyb]

Thanks all.

 

[CentralFLMama]

I think it was at the Anthony home. I think it was likely in Casey's room, perhaps that is why she couldn't sleep in her room when she was out on bond. Though I can definitely see scenarios involving the pool as well.