Where was the Vatican Boycott of the DVC...

[LinasK]

Understood. I guess what I actually was trying to get across. Is that you do not need to Go to a Churuch to get to Heaven.

I fully agree with you there, you don't need a temple either, it's just a building. As long as a person has their own relationship with God, that's what counts, not where it is. I could talk with God at the beach or in a forest, it's just as valid as a house of organized worship.

 

[Dark Knight]

OK I have got to Butt in.You do not need to belong to any chruch in order to gainentrance to Heaven. There is one way and one way only. Accept jesus christ as your Lord and Savior.Church to me for over 30 years has been nothing but a place to gather.And Now a days a place where they ask for you money.
Do I sound Bitter you bet I am. See I am a son of a preacher.Or should say was as my Dad was told what he was preaching was from the Devil. funny part is I heard the same sermons 20 years later and they accepted it.I know where I am going . And No chruch can tell me different.

Sorry to hear about what happened to your dad. That stuff happens too often.

Jesus does like a crowd, though, as He said, "Wherever two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

 

[IrishMist]

I fully agree with you there, you don't need a temple either, it's just a building. As long as a person has their own relationship with God, that's what counts, not where it is. I could talk with God at the beach or in a forest, it's just as valid as a house of organized worship.

Ya know, LinasK, I feel closer to God in the forest, at the beach- or on the river than I do anywhere else.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Ya know, LinasK, I feel closer to God in the forest, at the beach- or on the river than I do anywhere else.

True communion with the Divine is very simple, unelaborate, omnipresent. The teachings of Christianity can be encompassed in a few pith instructions: "Love God, Love Your Neighbor as much as you love yourself for the love of God."

What we think "God" is varies from tradition to tradition. Doesn't that make sense? God is beyond mortal conception. We have only concepts to describe indescrible presence, beyond "existing or not existing".

Many many paths lead to Truth. There is only ONE TRUTH. How each manages to have genuine, moment- to- moment experience of the Divine sonstitutes "path". Most traditions consider themselves the one True path.

Can we hold the seeming contradiction that more than one path may be True?

Wouldn't Infinite Wisdom create more than one way for the many to approach living experience of the Divine?

When a path brings forth qualities of "good heart" is that not the workings of the Divine?

 

[IrishMist]

True communion with the Divine is very simple, unelaborate, omnipresent. The teachings of Christianity can be encompassed in a few pith instructions: "Love God, Love Your Neighbor as much as you love yourself for the love of God."

What we think "God" is varies from tradition to tradition. Doesn't that make sense? God is beyond mortal conception. We have only concepts to describe idescrible presence, beyond "existing or not existing".

Many many paths lead to Truth. There is only ONE TRUTH. How each manages to have genuine, moment- to- moment experience of the Divine sonstitutes "path". Most traditions consider themselves the one True path.

Can we hold the seeming contradiction that more than one path may be True?

Wouldn't Infinite Wisdom create more than one way for the many to approach living experience of the Divine?

When a path brings forth qualities of "good heart" is that not the workings of the Divine?

You get a big AMEN, here, WOVC.
Excellent post. :clap:

 

[windovervocalcords]

You get a big AMEN, here, WOVC.
Excellent post. :clap:

Thank you. That was kind.

No better last word on this topic than AMEN!

 

[Dark Knight]

No better last word on this topic than AMEN!

Pfft.

 

[IrishMist]

Pfft.

 

[Dark Knight]

I wasn't giving an amen to some of opinions expressed.

 

[IrishMist]

I wasn't giving an amen to some of opinions expressed.

Oh! Gotcha

 

[lynie]

I'll give you an AMEN, Windy....

Lynie

 

[IrishMist]

I wasn't giving an amen to some of opinions expressed.

I'll tell ya, DK, this has been hanging with me. I understand not agreeing with some of the opinions, but to be rude and dismissive?

There have been some heartfelt posts on here- and while not everyone agrees with everyone else, I think we've tried to be respectful of each other's beliefs.

I also think that if one of us "non-Catholics" had responded with "pfft" after a heartfelt and thought out post, you would have had a dying duck fit.

So much of this DaVinci Code discussion has been about respect. That's a two way street in my book.

 

[windovervocalcords]

I'll tell ya, DK, this has been hanging with me. I understand not agreeing with some of the opinions, but to be rude and dismissive?

There have been some heartfelt posts on here- and while not everyone agrees with everyone else, I think we've tried to be respectful of each other's beliefs.

I also think that if one of us "non-Catholics" had responded with "pfft" after a heartfelt and thought out post, you would have had a dying duck fit.

So much of this DaVinci Code discussion has been about respect. That's a two way street in my book.

How interesting that even the word "amen" is controversial on a thread merely asking the "where is the DVC thread?"

No wonder the Vatican/ DVC is not coming back! It's amazing the thread lasted as long as it did.

"If we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity."

John Fitzgerald Kennedy

 

[Dark Knight]

I'll tell ya, DK, this has been hanging with me. I understand not agreeing with some of the opinions, but to be rude and dismissive?

There have been some heartfelt posts on here- and while not everyone agrees with everyone else, I think we've tried to be respectful of each other's beliefs.

I also think that if one of us "non-Catholics" had responded with "pfft" after a heartfelt and thought out post, you would have had a dying duck fit.

So much of this DaVinci Code discussion has been about respect. That's a two way street in my book.

1. I was only teasing.

2. I heard a lot of stuff without having a dying duck fit.

Have a nice day!

 

[windovervocalcords]

1. I was only teasing.

2. I heard a lot of stuff without having a dying duck fit.

Have a nice day!

"Gotcha"

"Pfft!"

Whatever that means!

lol

 

[sandraladeda]

FYI, the Canadian spelling of "pfft" is with 3 Fs. we spell it "pffft".

It is not unusual to hear us say "Pffft, eh?"

lol

 

[Dark Knight]

FYI, the Canadian spelling of "pfft" is with 3 Fs. we spell it "pffft".

It is not unusual to hear us say "Pffft, eh?"

lol

LOL!!!!!!!!!! I guess I give up my "pfft" too early, lol. :crazy:

After Mass this morning, I realized that was the most exercise I had all week, LOL! We need to come out with a Catholic Aerobics video...save your soul AND your health! :crazy:

 

[windovervocalcords]

FYI, the Canadian spelling of "pfft" is with 3 Fs. we spell it "pffft".

It is not unusual to hear us say "Pffft, eh?"

lol

Ah, "gothcha", another teachable moment....Thank you. I learn something new every day. Now I can use or not use that term in an informed way.

"pffft":

A metamorphic expletive which can be used to convey emotion, particularly shock or surprise, disgust or anger.

The amplitude of the reaction can be measured by counting intermediary fs.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/pffft.html

"Pffft is distaste, or sarcastic.
An expression of dismissal of another's comment

- An expression of disgust, disdain or disapproval, usually uttered
after someone has just told you something totally inane or
uninteresting.

- An expression of a lack of interest in another persons comment

-Fine, whatever, I don’t care."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pfft&defid=1150022



I was once at a Catholic wedding, and the priest was very cool about it. He explained,
"For you non-Catholics, just stand when everyone stands and sit when everyone sits. We call it 'Catholic Aerobics.'"

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=005159;p=1

DK

Take a trip to Brazil....Brazil is home to more Catholics than any country in the world.

"Sweating is good," he announces. "It gets the bad things out. Now put your hands over your hearts and join me: Let's get rid of envy, of greed, hatred...."

If Rossi sounds more like an exercise instructor than a Roman Catholic priest, it's probably because he used to be one."

At any mall in this sprawling metropolis, a shopper might find videotapes of Rossi's "Aerobics of the Lord" services or his feature film, "Mary, Mother of the Son of God," the fourth-highest-grossing Brazilian movie of 2004. At a music store, one can flip through the albums that have earned Rossi multiple Latin Grammy nominations.

http://www.thewashingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51511-2005Apr13.html

May you always find what opens your mind and heart to those you hold dear, your family, friends, community and to countless "others", those you call "enemies" or "strangers".

May all benefit.

 

[ellen13]

OK I have got to Butt in.You do not need to belong to any chruch in order to gainentrance to Heaven. There is one way and one way only. Accept jesus christ as your Lord and Savior.Church to me for over 30 years has been nothing but a place to gather.And Now a days a place where they ask for you money.
Do I sound Bitter you bet I am. See I am a son of a preacher.Or should say was as my Dad was told what he was preaching was from the Devil. funny part is I heard the same sermons 20 years later and they accepted it.I know where I am going . And No chruch can tell me different.

And if you're a Jew and you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then where are you going?????????????

 

[IrishMist]

And if you're a Jew and you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then where are you going?????????????

Hi Ellen. JDB clarified what he was saying in post #20:

Understood. I guess what I actually was trying to get across. Is that you do not need to Go to a Churuch to get to Heaven.