White Truck Focus and second person in truck.

[nursebeeme]

I think it is mostly to rule out false leads. If they say it was a man or a woman, anyone can come out and say, "Yeah, I saw him/her." But if they keep that part secret, it reduces the ability for someone to claim they saw him/her if they really didn't.

I think they need more witnesses to get a more accurate description of the adult. The time frame (0815-0845) is very specific and most likely based on the witnesses they already have.

MOO

 

[Emma Peel]

I don't get it.

"Can you help identify the adult in Terri's truck?", whilst we pass out these wanted posters of Dede and the truck.

wink, wink, nudge, nudge


(could they scream it any louder?)

 

[SurfieTX]

I don't get it.

"Can you help identify the adult in Terri's truck?", whilst we pass out these wanted posters of Dede and the truck.

wink, wink, nudge, nudge


(could they scream it any louder?)

That's why I was asking. I mean HELLO! LE is passing out a flyer wanting information about this woman and yet won't specify the sex of the "adult" in the truck. Wouldn't that cut down on extraneous tips and save man power and man hours?

 

[Bipolar Express]

This case is baffling....and I thought nothing could be as baffling as Haleigh's case.

 

[Aedrys]

I keep thinking to myself that there's a method to their madness, so to speak.

But their method is leading ME to madness. ARGH! I really hope they clear up some things at the presser, please GOD don't let it be like last time because I am so confused about the flier and the adult in the truck. This case shouldn't be such a brain buster.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I keep thinking to myself that there's a method to their madness, so to speak.

But their method is leading ME to madness. ARGH! I really hope they clear up some things at the presser, please GOD don't let it be like last time because I am so confused about the flier and the adult in the truck. This case shouldn't be such a brain buster.

I think the method in the madness is to let DD and TH know the walls are about to close in. :twocents:

 

[Spookytube]

I thought when I first heard about the unknown adult in the truck, I instantly thought grown man. Not sure why. Lets say TH had a male in her car, her email saying she saw KY and 2 lil girls with an unknown male chaperone could be covering for the guy in her car. Does that make sense? The way the news sounded was that LE "needed" the publics help to determine this unknown adults id. Tecnically, imo, it could be someone we do not know of. Whose to say that TH doesn't have a couple more of those prepaid phones out there floating around with one or more people. I mean how can LE rule out the possibility of a couple more phones with more people. We have seen so far how many people have bought them. It is so hard to wrap my head around and at the heart of this is a prescious child.

 

[kathryann]

I think they want people to come forward that actually saw someone in the truck and see if all the descriptions match therefore not saying whether it was a man/woman.

 

[Etilema]

Well I completely misunderstood this. I thought the story was that the mystery person was outside in the truck while Terri was inside the school. Not so. The two of them in the truck together.

So Terri and the mystery person were sitting in the truck - in the parking lot? Was this before or after Terri was inside the school with Kyron?

on Monday KGW learned that at least two people told police that they saw a second person with Terri in her truck on the day she took him to school and he vanished.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Police-flier-shows-photos-of-Spicher-asks-questions-100372044.html

ETA. Oh dear. I should have gone back to those first articles and checked again.

This is from KGW also. This one says the mystery person was in the truck while Terri was in the school.

According to several sources in the Skyline community, including people who have spoken with investigators, the person was seen by at least two witnesses while Terri was in the school with Kyron.

http://www.kgw.com/news/2nd-person-seen-in-Terri-Hormans-truck-100301534.html

So are these more sources/witnesses changing yet another story?

This is beyond insane. Once again, there is a child missing. Stop the madness. Where is Kyron?

OK, you're right--this reporting is abysmal. The only way I could accept this is if both stories were true--some witnesses saw an adult in the truck while TH and Kyron were in the school, some *other* witnesses saw TH WITH another adult in the truck. That would even be pretty significant. But because the stories are otherwise written so similarly, I think it is just an error and the supposed witnesses only saw one of these things.

My guess is that they saw TH *with* someone else. Because I think that's why they specified that it was and "not a child". So we know it wasn't Kyron or baby K. (Because if it was while she and Kyron were inside the school, we would not have supposed Kyron was in the truck, or that she would have left a toddler there unattended.)

 

[shanety]

I thought Dede was at work before 9? SM was at the school before 9 with another person in the truck? If so, then it could not be Dede if she was at work......

 

[BeanE]

That's why I was asking. I mean HELLO! LE is passing out a flyer wanting information about this woman and yet won't specify the sex of the "adult" in the truck. Wouldn't that cut down on extraneous tips and save man power and man hours?

Well, suppose the 2 witnesses said it was a man, and suppose they even have a partial picture of him, that shows his clothes, and his short black hair, but not his face. And suppose the 2 witnesses never got a chance to see his face.

Then along comes somebody who's assuming it's Dede, and they're a little bit wacky, and they call in a tip saying "I saw Dede in the truck! I saw her red hair and everything! Yep! It was her! For sure!". Well, then LE knows the person is mistruthifying, and they don't need to waste their time on that tip.

Then along comes somebody else who calls the tipline and says "I saw a man in the truck! He had on a light blue jacket and a red ball cap with such and such logo on it, he had short black hair, and I saw his face. He had a mustache and bushy eyebrows and a big scar on his right cheek." LE knows this is somebody worth spending their time on.

LE has to know how credible tips are so they can prioritize them. One of the ways they do that is by witholding info. They know by what the person says - or doesn't say - how credible the tip is.

 

[Spookytube]

I thought Dede was at work before 9? SM was at the school before 9 with another person in the truck? If so, then it could not be Dede if she was at work......

I agree. I do not thik it was DDS in my humble opinion. Im thinkin if it was DDS, we would have either heard DDS was in the truck or we would have heard nothing at all at this point.

 

[STEADFAST]

I can't ever see inside anybody's truck. Do trucks in Oregon not have window tinting?

 

[SurfieTX]

Well, suppose the 2 witnesses said it was a man, and suppose they even have a partial picture of him, that shows his clothes, and his short black hair, but not his face. And suppose the 2 witnesses never got a chance to see his face.

Then along comes somebody who's assuming it's Dede, and they're a little bit wacky, and they call in a tip saying "I saw Dede in the truck! I saw her red hair and everything! Yep! It was her! For sure!". Well, then LE knows the person is mistruthifying, and they don't need to waste their time on that tip.

Then along comes somebody else who calls the tipline and says "I saw a man in the truck! He had on a light blue jacket and a red ball cap with such and such logo on it, he had short black hair, and I saw his face. He had a mustache and bushy eyebrows and a big scar on his right cheek." LE knows this is somebody worth spending their time on.

LE has to know how credible tips are so they can prioritize them. One of the ways they do that is by witholding info. They know by what the person says - or doesn't say - how credible the tip is.

I understand that they need to withhold certain information in order to weed out tips, but I guess I don't understand why the sex of the "adult" needs to be one of them - clothing, hair color, etc. - I get that. It's just frustrating, to me, because it seems so haphazard in its broadness. I hope that last sentence made sense. I'm having a hard time articulating what I'm thinking and feeling about this.

 

[Wondergirl]

-Was this person caring for Baby K while TH was in the school with Kyron?

-8:15 am to 8:45 am is very specific. Was the person sighted in the truck at BOTH of those times?

-Was the person in the truck without TH knowing they were in there?

 

[Emma Peel]

Well, suppose the 2 witnesses said it was a man, and suppose they even have a partial picture of him, that shows his clothes, and his short black hair, but not his face. And suppose the 2 witnesses never got a chance to see his face.

Then along comes somebody who's assuming it's Dede, and they're a little bit wacky, and they call in a tip saying "I saw Dede in the truck! I saw her red hair and everything! Yep! It was her! For sure!". Well, then LE knows the person is mistruthifying, and they don't need to waste their time on that tip.

Then along comes somebody else who calls the tipline and says "I saw a man in the truck! He had on a light blue jacket and a red ball cap with such and such logo on it, he had short black hair, and I saw his face. He had a mustache and bushy eyebrows and a big scar on his right cheek." LE knows this is somebody worth spending their time on.

LE has to know how credible tips are so they can prioritize them. One of the ways they do that is by witholding info. They know by what the person says - or doesn't say - how credible the tip is.

If this is the case, then, IMO, the wanted flyer of Dede is going to produce a lot of false tips. Houze will have a field day with those false tips.

On the other hand, I do not think this is the case.

IMO, LE knew darn well what any potential witnesses to this case would think when they publish that wanted flyer #2 and all these leaks and this stream of press focus. They are focused on Dede now, leaking Dede stuff like wildfire (IMO), having serachers search locations leaked to Dede.

My guess is Dede messed up at the GJ, and they are pressuring her very hard. They already have info about Dede that tells them that Dede is not being cooperative/completely truthful, etc...and they are leaking this info. Again, just a guess.

 

[cypress]

I would say LE is not revealing the gender of the adult in order to rule out false tips, but then you've got the honkin' obvious poster of Dede.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

The more people LE says are involved, the less likely I believe Terri and her friends are responsible, and the less likely I believe LE knows what they're doing. We're not talking about stealing something or even drugs, we're talking about abducting and either concealing or murdering a CHILD and remaining silent about it for over two months. It's a different breed of criminal who knowingly, willfully commits murder. It's a different breed of criminal who knowingly, willfully helps abduct, murder, or cover up the murder of an innocent child.

 

[carbuff]

-Was this person caring for Baby K while TH was in the school with Kyron?

-8:15 am to 8:45 am is very specific. Was the person sighted in the truck at BOTH of those times?

-Was the person in the truck without TH knowing they were in there?

That last point is the one I keep wondering about.

 

[cypress]

If this is the case, then, IMO, the wanted flyer of Dede is going to produce a lot of false tips. Houze will have a field day with those false tips.

On the other hand, I do not think this is the case.

IMO, LE knew darn well what any potential witnesses to this case would think when they publish that wanted flyer #2 and all these leaks and this stream of press focus. They are focused on Dede now, leaking Dede stuff like wildfire (IMO), having serachers search locations leaked to Dede.

My guess is Dede messed up at the GJ, and they are pressuring her very hard. They already have info about Dede that tells them that Dede is not being cooperative/completely truthful, etc...and they are leaking this info. Again, just a guess.

Honestly, I don't believe DS has told them anything of real value or that they were searching based on tips from her.

If the tips came from DS as she was working out some sort of immunity deal, then the tips would've produced something, IMHO. LE wouldn't have to be guessing about anything.

I also strongly believe LE is leaking the false info that Dede is providing LE with leads to put pressure on Terri in the hope that she'll crack.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I would say LE is not revealing the gender of the adult in order to rule out false tips, but then you've got the honkin' obvious poster of Dede.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

The more people LE says are involved, the less likely I believe Terri and her friends are responsible, and the less likely I believe LE knows what they're doing. We're not talking about stealing something or even drugs, we're talking about abducting and either concealing or murdering a CHILD and remaining silent about it for over two months. It's a different breed of criminal who knowingly, willfully commits murder. It's a different breed of criminal who knowingly, willfully helps abduct, murder, or cover up the murder of an innocent child.

I'm sure LE knows the purpose of their investigation is justice for Kyron. I'm absolutely sure that is what keeps them going day after day as they do these strenuous searches in the woods.

In my opinion, being a criminal isn't a "breed" and you can't see it just by glancing at someone. It has nothing to do with lifestyle or economic group either. There is no "breed" to it.

Being a supposedly "nice" woman and a Mommy to her own child doesn't automatically rule out TH disposing of her stepson. JMO