White Truck Focus and second person in truck.

  • #381
I found it very interesting that they specifically referred to the white truck "belonging to Kaine Horman." And that they never ever mentioned TH by name. They never even said "driven by TH." (I think I heard 99% of it.)

Why? I wonder if maybe TH's lawyer has been raising heck behind the scenes.

Did they borrow Kaine's truck for those photos? If so, when?

Funny thing, it was all about the truck and individuals "associated with" the truck, seen in or around, apparently.

I am not, not, not, not not inferring anything, but are they certain Kaine was at work? I've been trying to figure out who and why might have gotten into the truck at the school, if anyone did. It gets down to: was the truck locked or not? If it was locked, she needed the key or the clicker to get back in, and anyone else needed their key/clicker to get in. (Caveat: my Ford Explorer has buttons on the driver's side door where I can key in the combination and get in w/out my keys.)

Where was MC that day? I don't believe that he just magically appeared on the scene when he interjected himself big time into the case.

I have a couple of different scenarios for who might have gotten in the truck and why. Maybe I'll find the right thread to post them. I had someone at the house and they just left so I'm catching up.
 
  • #382
I normally don't speculate like this, but in this photo gallery:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100455014.html?tab=gallery&gallery=y&img=0

...you can see billboards just above the truck in the first and second photos.

Is one of those billboards a "missing" billboard for Kyron? (I'm referring to the black and white one with a photo on it.) Or is it an advertisement for something else?

I'm asking because I cannot see them that well on my computer and have no means to zoom-in.
 
  • #383
Timeline: Horman truck locations June 4


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http://www.kgw.com/news/Timeline-Horman-truck-locations-June-4-100461834.html
 
  • #384
I normally don't speculate like this, but in this photo gallery:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100455014.html?tab=gallery&gallery=y&img=0

...you can see billboards just above the truck in the first and second photos.

Is one of those billboards a "missing" billboard for Kyron? (I'm referring to the black and white one with a photo on it.) Or is it an advertisement for something else?

I'm asking because I cannot see them that well on my computer and have no means to zoom-in.


Yes. A poster on another thread was able to enlarge it, thereby indicating that the trucks were posed for today's pictures.

imo
 
  • #385
I normally don't speculate like this, but in this photo gallery:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100455014.html?tab=gallery&gallery=y&img=0

...you can see billboards just above the truck in the first and second photos.

Is one of those billboards a "missing" billboard for Kyron? (I'm referring to the black and white one with a photo on it.) Or is it an advertisement for something else?

I'm asking because I cannot see them that well on my computer and have no means to zoom-in.

I see it, looks like it's attached to the fence.
 
  • #386
Yes. A poster on another thread was able to enlarge it, thereby indicating that the trucks were posed for today's pictures.

imo

Thank you!
 
  • #387
They can't confirm the photos were staged? HUHHHHH? [At 13:55 on audio above]
 
  • #388
  • #389
Another thing, my guess is that there were a lot of moms there...and while I can't speak for all women-I am assuming that most are like me and are not very good at knowing what 'type' of car a car is. For example, I can tell you that my sister has a silver minivan w/ a sliding door and that my brother inlaw has a 4 door sedan-red. I could not tell you the make and model-only that they are newer. So, in referencing (repeatedly) the make and model of the car I believe they are focusing in on wanting tips from MALES that were there. In my opinion if they were wanting tips from FEMALES the emphasis would have been on it being a 4 door, white truck with stickers on the back window.

Secondly, whether or not they had 'tips' that focused on the parking lot and where TH had parked, it is my humble opinion that recreating the parking lot should have been one of the FIRST things done. Not two months later. Especially since that day some people would have still been there-teachers, secretaries, ect. and it would have been less space to have to 'fill'.
 
  • #390
  • #391
He said specifically that by associated, he meant anyone seen in or in the proximity of the truck.

Here's the presser video. See 2:38:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/live_video_watch_the_kyron_hor_1.html

Right sorry for the confusion, but in my mind people (parents at least) who are around the school a lot might not associate someone 'around' a truck with the truck unless it is someone they know belongs with the truck. (ha, did that make sense?).

People know the truck was the horman's so would they associate anyone else with it, remember it, and be able to recall specifics two months later?
 
  • #392
I normally don't speculate like this, but in this photo gallery:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100455014.html?tab=gallery&gallery=y&img=0

...you can see billboards just above the truck in the first and second photos.

Is one of those billboards a "missing" billboard for Kyron? (I'm referring to the black and white one with a photo on it.) Or is it an advertisement for something else?

I'm asking because I cannot see them that well on my computer and have no means to zoom-in.

The billboards are a little blurry for my but I believe you can see the Wall of Hope behind the truck
 
  • #393
Another thing, my guess is that there were a lot of moms there...and while I can't speak for all women-I am assuming that most are like me and are not very good at knowing what 'type' of car a car is. For example, I can tell you that my sister has a silver minivan w/ a sliding door and that my brother inlaw has a 4 door sedan-red. I could not tell you the make and model-only that they are newer. So, in referencing (repeatedly) the make and model of the car I believe they are focusing in on wanting tips from MALES that were there. In my opinion if they were wanting tips from FEMALES the emphasis would have been on it being a 4 door, white truck with stickers on the back window.

Secondly, whether or not they had 'tips' that focused on the parking lot and where TH had parked, it is my humble opinion that recreating the parking lot should have been one of the FIRST things done. Not two months later. Especially since that day some people would have still been there-teachers, secretaries, ect. and it would have been less space to have to 'fill'.

BBM. It could be that TH has claimed all this time that she parked in the parking lot and LE recently received info that she was parked elsewhere and now LE needs more witnesses to prove it. Can't ever have too many witnesses. And/or they are hoping people actually saw Kyron get into the truck at that location.
 
  • #394
BBM. It could be that TH has claimed all this time that she parked in the parking lot and LE recently received info that she was parked elsewhere and now LE needs more witnesses to prove it. Can't ever have too many witnesses. And/or they are hoping people actually saw Kyron get into the truck at that location.

Here is my difficulty though, IF the parking situation at Skyline had been recreated immediately after his disappearance they would have known THEN that she wasn't where she said she was. AND if they knew that then they could have gone down this rabbit hole TWO MONTHS ago and not today.

For example: "where were you parked yesterday...what vehicles were parked next to you?" instead of "two months ago....yada yada"

Yes, people might remember where THEY parked, but I doubt they would be able to give specifics about what cars were surrounding them---or if that truck they parked next to did actually have 3 stickers on the back.
 
  • #395
Does anyone have access to Dede's car pics? At one point they had a giant sticker with a rescue operation on the back. In the next pic I saw, the sticker was gone.

That seemed really unusual to me.
 
  • #396
Does anyone have access to Dede's car pics? At one point they had a giant sticker with a rescue operation on the back. In the next pic I saw, the sticker was gone.

That seemed really unusual to me.

Speaking of DD...

They were very specific in wanting to know about possible sightings of Kaine Horman's truck, no mention of any other vehicles. HMMM...
 
  • #397
BBM. It could be that TH has claimed all this time that she parked in the parking lot and LE recently received info that she was parked elsewhere and now LE needs more witnesses to prove it. Can't ever have too many witnesses. And/or they are hoping people actually saw Kyron get into the truck at that location.

Could also be that witness was a child, and they'd like to know if any adults saw the truck there.
 
  • #398
Has anyone heard more on this mystery person?Whether the person was male or female or what they looked like or who and where they were spotted ect...I am very interested in this?
 
  • #399
Hmm...I've been thinking. I'm not going to assume ALL the photos are staged just yet.

Maybe we are seeing two or more sets of photos. Some staged, some not staged. Perhaps the photos of the truck with Kyron's billboard in them is "a person of interest" returning to the scene of the crime? Or somewhere near it?

This seems very plausible to me because obviously LE knows a lot more than we do.
 
  • #400
Here is my difficulty though, IF the parking situation at Skyline had been recreated immediately after his disappearance they would have known THEN that she wasn't where she said she was. AND if they knew that then they could have gone down this rabbit hole TWO MONTHS ago and not today.

For example: "where were you parked yesterday...what vehicles were parked next to you?" instead of "two months ago....yada yada"

Yes, people might remember where THEY parked, but I doubt they would be able to give specifics about what cars were surrounding them---or if that truck they parked next to did actually have 3 stickers on the back.

From the video, Gates gave a good answer to this when someone asked about why the info was coming out now instead of earlier in the investigation.. and I can't quote directly but I jotted down notes:

He said the sheer magnitude of information they have in the case is incredible, as they proceed, and it's a very productive investigation, they come back to rechecking and refocusing, deeming what info is necessary to come out.

So I think what he's saying is pieces of the puzzle didn't fit just yet when they received information.. and when they did, it was then deemed necessary to share with the public.
 

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