Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 1

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  • #361
love that pic
but they've got the date wrong ... it wasn't 1965

Did the article w/the pic mention the line down the middle of photo which looks like it was torn & put back together or folded? Makes you wonder who would dislike this image of WH enough to tear it in half. If it came from WH's personal collection of photographs could she have disliked it so much that she tore it in half? Sad that it was not treasured enough... And even more sad that she wasn't...
 
  • #362
i don't know that i put any stock in the latest reports but if it were my loved one involved, i would much rather think she accidentally od'd, went to sleep, and just never woke up than have to imagine the drowning possibility.

both are horrible but the images and questions that come with her possibly drowning would haunt me forever.
 
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It just occurred to me that she was a drug addict for more than half the time she was famous. She was discovered at 19. Married Bobby Brown at 29. She was doing drugs before she ever met him, btw. With him she took it to another level and beyond. And after him she continued for some significant period of time as well, then transitioning to prescription drugs.

It's sad, but it's inevitable her legacy will be as much about her descent into severe addiction as about her voice and music. She devoted significant time to both.

Drugs always win the end.
 
  • #365
Whitney Houston's Daughter Frighteningly Similar Incident the Day Before Whitney Died

Fell asleep in tub and friends had to call security to open the door so they could get her out...

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-dead-bobbi-kristina-bathtub/

THIS strikes me as extremely strange to say the least. WHY would a 19 year old fall asleep in the bathtub to the point where she didn't wake up to knocking on the door? if this is true, it's really disturbing!
 
  • #366
Crack addicts and meth addicts alike sweat just sitting still. Imagine doing a whole set. Imagine dancing around and singing and how you'd sweat anyway.

In no way am I trying to tarnish Miss Houston's memory, but just answering that question.

Notice when she'd make all those huge jerky movements. If you're high on crack everything gets exaggerated. I'm sick of seeing people look like the walking dead who walk with all their da*n limbs jerking.

An example would be the time Miss Houston was on Rosie O'Donell years ago. She couldn't sit still. She had that ever present hankey with her. She'd raise her hands real high and a simple shake of the head as a no or yes her head about shook off.

Beautiful, talented, gifted woman.

Thanks, that makes sense, as her movements were jerky also, I jus hope from all of this that young people regardless of what walk of life they are in, can see the pitfalls of how your life is no longer your life, when drugs control you, and I also think it is good to talk about, as we are not saying anything mean about her, she is an example of having it all, but yet having nothing, we need to set boundries for ourselves, and most importantly we need a support system, which as Michael Jackson brother said the other night, she had the wong support around her, so very sad.
 
  • #367
i don't know that i put any stock in the latest reports but if it were my loved one involved, i would much rather think she accidentally od'd, went to sleep, and just never woke up than have to imagine the drowning possibility.

both are horrible but the images and questions that come with her possibly drowning would haunt me forever.

Her loved ones most likely know what she was doing for the past few weeks. Especially since being at the Hilton. It is impossible for so many bystanders to have seen her irratic actions and not her family. Best to just be honest and tell the truth. Hard to cover up the truth when so many others will not lie about it.
 
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THIS strikes me as extremely strange to say the least. WHY would a 19 year old fall asleep in the bathtub to the point where she didn't wake up to knocking on the door? if this is true, it's really disturbing!

Couple it with the fact that family or someone in the "group" just gave the daughter a sedative after she had been drinking alcohol and she had to be rushed to the hospital. (The radaronline link above) I'm thinking LE needs to find out who in the family is pushing the pills, and just what kind are they. It's beginning to look like a criminal case to me. So, does this mean Friday and Sunday for the daughter??!!!

From the link:

"She tried to ease the pain of losing her mother by having a few alcoholic drinks," the insider said.

"She was distraught, on the verge of a complete breakdown. Not knowing what to do, members of her mother's entourage tried to calm her down with a sedative. The two were an unfortunate mix and she ended up passing out."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...er-bobbi-kristina-hospitalized-twice-12-hours
 
  • #369
It just occurred to me that she was a drug addict for more than half the time she was famous. She was discovered at 19. Married Bobby Brown at 29. She was doing drugs before she ever met him, btw. With him she took it to another level and beyond. And after him she continued for some significant period of time as well, then transitioning to prescription drugs.

It's sad, but it's inevitable her legacy will be as much about her descent into severe addiction as about her voice and music. She devoted significant time to both.

Drugs always win the end.

the most troubling part on this one for me is that whitney had what others didn't.....she had clive davis. not only did he discover her, but he remained her mentor for 30+ years through thick and thin. he was supporting her towards the end, too. his belief in her absolutely did not wane and i feel he truly loved her like a daughter. because of that, and because clive davis is one of the most respected, powerful men in the music business, i just don't get why, of all people, did not stop enabling her.
 
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I was never a huge fan of Whitney; I think she set the trend for a singing style characterized by what I call over-wailing and vocal acrobatics and beyond belting. Granted I'm in the minority on that one. In addition, I get so tired of pampered celebrities spiraling down hill. Yes they are human, but they do not share the hard ships many of us do when we do not have financial security and are not given such talent and opportunity. I am so over celebs and their problems. I don't care what kind of talent they were given. If they piss it away, the heck with them.

With much younger female vocalists - children - I'd call it the "Annie" syndrome. During the years when the musical "Annie" did almost constant national tours, every little girl in the country wanted to be in the production, and many touring companies auditioned local talent for the show. Thousands of little girls went to these cattle calls with every one of them trying to out-shout the rest. Most of the girls were too young to have had proper vocal training and few had any real melody in their voices; they were LOUD, and that's what mattered.

Some years ago, I saw Dolly Parton in concert during which she sang what had become Whitney Houston's signature song: "I Will Always Love You" that was written by Parton. Her rendition was much softer and sweeter - almost as if it were a hymn.

RIP, Whitney.
 
  • #372
WH daughter grew up probably watching her mom and dad doing drugs, arguing non stop...this is the child's NORM! While I don't wish anyone's death and do not want to trample on anyone or the family however this family made all their choices. They cannot blame it on producers over working them, fame, fortune, or anything because it comes down to free will.

WH 2002 interview with Diane Sawyer show me that WH was not a nice person. "Crack is Whack"

The interview with both her and Bobby way back then, showed me that this couple argued in front of this child, and God knows what else she was exposed to.

Didn't I hear TMZ report a month or so ago that WH was very poor and asking for money here and there? Not sure how true but I heard it, after this is when offers came into her.

I just hate to hear these celebrities either Hollywood or sports stars squander a opportunity that most of us would have appreciated.

my 2 cents.
 
  • #373
They were talking about Whitney's death on the morning radio show I listen to just a few minutes ago. They were saying that it's very common for people to take "downer" medication(s) after a cocaine binge (I didn't know this). The radio host said it's very common with celebs -- they go on a binge and then have some kind of an event, so they take the medication to come down from their high. He was good friends with Kevin DuBrow from Quiet Riot and said this is basically how he died, even though it was officially ruled a cocaine OD.

This may be common knowledge but I don't know much about the heavy drug culture.
 
  • #374
I was never a huge fan of Whitney; I think she set the trend for a singing style characterized by what I call over-wailing and vocal acrobatics and beyond belting. Granted I'm in the minority on that one. In addition, I get so tired of pampered celebrities spiraling down hill. Yes they are human, but they do not share the hard ships many of us do when we do not have financial security and are not given such talent and opportunity. I am so over celebs and their problems. I don't care what kind of talent they were given. If they piss it away, the heck with them.

I was not a huge fan, never had any albums, but I did like the songs when I heard them. Just not 500 times a day.

What I heard was someone used to singing Gospel songs in Church. She used her voice as an instrument without any proper training, that is why it was so heartfelt, it also feels pleasant to the singer. It was needed at the time in pop b/c most stars at the time were just saying, not singing. Yes her voice would sound flat just when she was not "toggling", but that is lack of training. Once you hear great Opera singers you pick up the flat. That being said, I do not see her as the greatest singer of all time. She was good, she was there when pop music needed a change.

I'm sorry it all started when she was so young. That may have played a part in her downfall. Too much headiness, too much control from others, spells a need to rebel. A need also to find someone like Brown that reduced her to the streets as that was all he knew and could not understand her unblemished stardom, he had to bring her down, she needed to stray. It lasted too long and brought everyone down with them. She fought to get back up, that we must give her credit for. Relapses are a part of any addiction, and we have to understand that. The only person that probably understands none of it is the one who is suffering the most and only knows addiction and abuse, her daughter. I worry about her. I offer condolences from a stranger to all that loved her, but that girl needs more help than WH did. And with today's news, I think some investigation as to what pills were making the daughter pass out twice and WH died in the same manner needs to happen.
 
  • #375
Some years ago, I saw Dolly Parton in concert during which she sang what had become Whitney Houston's signature song: "I Will Always Love You" that was written by Parton. Her rendition was much softer and sweeter - almost as if it were a hymn.

RIP, Whitney.

Thank you , yes , Dolly is my all time favorite artist. From poverty to riches she has stayed true to herself and her roots.
 
  • #376
the most troubling part on this one for me is that whitney had what others didn't.....she had clive davis. not only did he discover her, but he remained her mentor for 30+ years through thick and thin. he was supporting her towards the end, too. his belief in her absolutely did not wane and i feel he truly loved her like a daughter. because of that, and because clive davis is one of the most respected, powerful men in the music business, i just don't get why, of all people, did not stop enabling her.

She enabled herself no one else is too blame.
 
  • #377
the most troubling part on this one for me is that whitney had what others didn't.....she had clive davis. not only did he discover her, but he remained her mentor for 30+ years through thick and thin. he was supporting her towards the end, too. his belief in her absolutely did not wane and i feel he truly loved her like a daughter. because of that, and because clive davis is one of the most respected, powerful men in the music business, i just don't get why, of all people, did not stop enabling her.

What exactly was he supposed to do? Tie her up in his basement so she could not use? When it comes to addicts, this is the only way another person can make them stop using. If an addict is not ready to quit, they will find a way to score their poison....whether it be drugs, booze, cigarettes, chocolate chip cookies, or potato chips.
 
  • #378
Thank you , yes , Dolly is my all time favorite artist. From poverty to riches she has stayed true to herself and her roots.

And, Dolly always remembers from whence her musical gifts came ;)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utP1mGoutQ"]Dolly Parton - I will always love you - YouTube[/ame]
 
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