who is this unidentified young girl? jumped/thrown from vehicle in AZ, 1999

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  • #221
I think the contact should have been done via phone, JMO. Then questions could have been asked and tips could have been given, I always try to make initial contact by phone, then follow up with email. Just a suggestion.
 
  • #222
here's her e-mail:

<<Thank you for all of your interest! I am aware of the threads going on
about this case. Unfortunately, there is only certain information that
can be released at this time, but police have actively pursued all
avenues of this case since it occurred. The questions you have listed
have all been topics that police have already addressed in their
investigation. Due to the nature of the investigation, many of the
details must remain protected so as not to jeopardize the potential for
future charges, court proceedings, and/or prosecution.

(and in the 2nd e-mail-)
...And thanks to everyone for taking interest and trying to help out! >>

Suzi D., Investigator
Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office

...so there you have it, guys. they have already explored everything we have talked about (hey, are we good or what? ;))... but they cannot discuss it or give out any info,, which is kind of what i figured. maybe to us it appears that no one is working on a case just because we're looking at it from the outside and there is not much information given... but in many cases, there is probably someone- or several people- who have been actively working on it day and night and would love to see it solved as much as anyone.

christine-- good idea about calling, i probably would have if i had a true 'tip' to offer... but, don't know if i would consider potential matches or questions a tip, though... unless it was a very obscure potential match that isn't listed on a missing persons site anywhere. i think we can be assured that they are working hard on this and hopefully someday all their work will pay off and they'll get a break in the case. but you guys have really given it your all on this one!
 
  • #223
here's her e-mail:

<<Thank you for all of your interest! I am aware of the threads going on
about this case. Unfortunately, there is only certain information that
can be released at this time, but police have actively pursued all
avenues of this case since it occurred. The questions you have listed
have all been topics that police have already addressed in their
investigation. Due to the nature of the investigation, many of the
details must remain protected so as not to jeopardize the potential for
future charges, court proceedings, and/or prosecution.

(and in the 2nd e-mail-)
...And thanks to everyone for taking interest and trying to help out! >>

Suzi D., Investigator
Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office

...so there you have it, guys. they have already explored everything we have talked about (hey, are we good or what? ;))... but they cannot discuss it or give out any info,, which is kind of what i figured. maybe to us it appears that no one is working on a case just because we're looking at it from the outside and there is not much information given... but in many cases, there is probably someone- or several people- who have been actively working on it day and night and would love to see it solved as much as anyone.

christine-- good idea about calling, i probably would have if i had a true 'tip' to offer... but, don't know if i would consider potential matches or questions a tip, though... unless it was a very obscure potential match that isn't listed on a missing persons site anywhere. i think we can be assured that they are working hard on this and hopefully someday all their work will pay off and they'll get a break in the case. but you guys have really given it your all on this one!

Hiya Reb, thanks for making the contact and posting for all of us. Can you email her back with the potential matches and ask for confirmation that these have been eliminated? The answer is just too generic for me. I want specifics, we NEED to know if these matches are/have seriously been looked at...yes?
 
  • #224
Hi!!! I just wanted to say who the heck would you write, and to complain about devulging too much information on a case???????????? I know thats probably the way the stupid laws are but ya know alot of murders might be solved if the victim is identified!! GRRRR I've been following this case for awhile, and feel so awful this poor girl isnt identified...... I'm just not sure whats legal or not legal to do..(such as while driving on long trips are ya allowed to leave flyers at a Rest stops???)...I dont want to get into trouble.....
 
  • #225
Hi!!! I just wanted to say who the heck would you write, and to complain about devulging too much information on a case???????????? I know thats probably the way the stupid laws are but ya know alot of murders might be solved if the victim is identified!! GRRRR I've been following this case for awhile, and feel so awful this poor girl isnt identified...... I'm just not sure whats legal or not legal to do..(such as while driving on long trips are ya allowed to leave flyers at a Rest stops???)...I dont want to get into trouble.....

Of course you can put flyers at reststops...I would not use the autopsy photo, I would use the artist renditions.
 
  • #226
oh okay!! Thats great!! Thanks for the response! I appreciate it.
 
  • #227
Hiya Reb, thanks for making the contact and posting for all of us. Can you email her back with the potential matches and ask for confirmation that these have been eliminated? The answer is just too generic for me. I want specifics, we NEED to know if these matches are/have seriously been looked at...yes?

I agree that answer sucks. They could at least let reb know they have checked out Michella and Amber.
 
  • #228
Hiya Reb, thanks for making the contact and posting for all of us. Can you email her back with the potential matches and ask for confirmation that these have been eliminated? The answer is just too generic for me. I want specifics, we NEED to know if these matches are/have seriously been looked at...yes?


I wonder if they seriously checked the girl against Michaela Garecht though. Wouldn't they have notified her mother when they were doing the check? I have read the myspace page posts from her mother and that other person who has the site that is in communication with the mother - it doesn't sound like she's been notified of a check.
 
  • #229
if the "certain information": is stuff that only her "killer" would know, then i can see why it would need to be withheld - otherwise, i can't see how our knowing answers to some of these questions could possibly hurt their "case" - its good to know they are actively working on it - but - you'd think if they are aware of these threads on the girl, they might pop in a post to let us know its being worked on - call me naive - but i believe some of us are very good at this stuff and could be more useful if we were let in the loop possibly - again, as long as the case against a possible suspect weren't totally compromised....
 
  • #230
I too have read comments from her mother that doubt the girl is Michaela.
 
  • #231
This case is really intriguing!! I have been reading through since last night but most of the doe network links don't work so I've had a hard time looking at all of the people you guys have suggested....from what I've seen, none of the people stand out more than others.

I'm really curious about the clothing though. You would think they'd at least release THAT!
 
  • #232
This case is really intriguing!! I have been reading through since last night but most of the doe network links don't work so I've had a hard time looking at all of the people you guys have suggested....from what I've seen, none of the people stand out more than others.

I'm really curious about the clothing though. You would think they'd at least release THAT!


texasgirl.....when you try to look at the doe network links, make sure the address at the top of your page has .org, instead of the .us it used to be. You can just pop up there, highlight it and change it.
 
  • #233
I am beginning to believe their is a lot more to this case then law enforcement has released. I do not buy that a couple just happened to pick this girl up at a convience store and gave her a ride and she never told then her name and then she just happened to leap from the car. I am sure LE has a better idea of what happened but inorder to preserve the case has to keep it quiet. I have often wondered if LE is certain she died from injuries sustanined from her leap from the car or is it possible she was allready in an injured state and then thrown from the car resulting in futher injury? have the couple in the car taken lie detector tests?

mjak
 
  • #234
i know, i know, guys... but as we've been told, everything we have mentioned, they are aware of and have already checked out.. so if a match was made they might have taken her off the site. i honestly doubt that any of the girls you guys mentioned are her... i know that post-mortem photos look different (plus, she was injured). but they just don't look enough like her to me (still good sleuthing though!) so, even if they hadn't thought of something that we came up with, they would have seen it here, and probably checked by now.. and whther it was or wasn't a match, it's against their policy to discuss it publicly. i dunno... has there ever been a med ex person (or person in a similar position) on this site? i'm sure with ongoing investigations things are very, very confidential and they have to be tight-lipped about it all.. and if they do know more about the case or the mysterious couple there's probably good reasons why they can't reveal it.

but yeah, it IS frustrating.. but remember we are just volunteer 'sleuthers' who do this in our free time.. and they are the full-time paid experts! so i think we should have faith that they are doing all they can.

doesn't mean we still can't keep trying to figure it out though.

i too hope this girl eventually gets a name... i just have a feeling she has a story to tell.
 
  • #235
regarding michaela.. on the charley project, the 4th photo is actually the only one i've seen that really resembles her (IMO).. the only thing is... she would be around 20 in '99 (since she was 9 in '88).. and they say jane doe was 18 at most. plus, since michaela's case is pretty well-known.. i would think that she'd be one of the first they would check. really good try, though...!
 
  • #236
i agree reb - i actually don't think it would be someone so obvious......
 
  • #237
i know, i know, guys... but as we've been told, everything we have mentioned, they are aware of and have already checked out.. so if a match was made they might have taken her off the site. i honestly doubt that any of the girls you guys mentioned are her... i know that post-mortem photos look different (plus, she was injured). but they just don't look enough like her to me (still good sleuthing though!) so, even if they hadn't thought of something that we came up with, they would have seen it here, and probably checked by now.. and whther it was or wasn't a match, it's against their policy to discuss it publicly. i dunno... has there ever been a med ex person (or person in a similar position) on this site? i'm sure with ongoing investigations things are very, very confidential and they have to be tight-lipped about it all.. and if they do know more about the case or the mysterious couple there's probably good reasons why they can't reveal it.

but yeah, it IS frustrating.. but remember we are just volunteer 'sleuthers' who do this in our free time.. and they are the full-time paid experts! so i think we should have faith that they are doing all they can.

doesn't mean we still can't keep trying to figure it out though.

i too hope this girl eventually gets a name... i just have a feeling she has a story to tell.

Yes , They have been here . This Agency in particular is very nice and they are very thorough. They responded right away. I noticed your email reply and smiled.

You all here have been doing a good job here. I think they are just being tight lipped because they are pizzed at the circumstances , remember we see a picture and a story , they have the real girl in their custody. I am guessing they are determined to see this through to the end.

Imagine how angry they must have been....She is so young.
 
  • #238
Any more news on this one?
 
  • #239
I think we all care deeply about this young girl without a name - who was still alive for a time but then died - esp.l when we know there is information out there but we have no access to it and feel like we can't do much other then sift through pics of missing girls....
 
  • #240
I had another question.. and that was about her teeth.. I wasnt sure if it was covered.. Curious to know if they were crooked? huge? over bite? fillings? Wish they had a picture!!!
 
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