Why did the Grand Jury not indict the Ramseys?

[midwest mama]

Let's not be too harsh on the R's (cough, cough) - This was in DOI:
"To promote the book, we would have to appear publicly. We were not anxious to do so, and insisted this be as limited as possible........Knowledgeable people had told us this first interview (with Barbara Walters @ ABC) was worth millions of dollars to the networks. Unlike some of their other guests, we were never paid a penny."

Now, wasn't it noble of them to sacrifice their privacy for an unpaid public interview?

 

[midwest mama]

Here's a Johnism from DOI, pg 378, that really takes the cake:
"It takes a mountain of evidence to convict, but only a paltry amount of evidence to indict. Yet, in the eyes of the grand jurors, even that did not exist."

Wrong, and guess what - even that "paltry" amount turned out to be enough for the Grand Jury to think you and Patsy were responsible for JB's death.

Mountains are not invincible either, JR. Instead an invincible Edmund Hillary, believing he could do it, trained for 5 years involving acclimating himself to Everest, attempted and achieved the first successful climb. One day maybe there will be the likes of another Edmund Hillary within the Boulder DA's office who will have the fortitude to tackle that mountain, evidence in hand and plant a flag of justice.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Let's not be too harsh on the R's (cough, cough) - This was in DOI:
"To promote the book, we would have to appear publicly. We were not anxious to do so, and insisted this be as limited as possible........Knowledgeable people had told us this first interview (with Barbara Walters @ ABC) was worth millions of dollars to the networks. Unlike some of their other guests, we were never paid a penny."

Now, wasn't it noble of them to sacrifice their privacy for an unpaid public interview?

That quote is BS. John makes it sound like they were required to promote the book, yet the media refuses to pay them even though they are worth millions. It's not like he says "We were offered millions, but turned it down. We didn't want to make money off our daughter's death". Nope it's: "We were worth millions, but the media refused to pay us." Riiiight. I'm guessing it makes no sense because there is no truth to it whatsoever.

Yeah, there is absolutely no way the media screwed over John the businessman and his entire team. The R's were definitely paid for those interviews, they were definitely paid what they were worth, which was definitely over $1 million. To think that the media got away with not paying them...LOL NO.

 

[Nom de plume]

Let's not be too harsh on the R's (cough, cough) - This was in DOI:
"To promote the book, we would have to appear publicly. We were not anxious to do so, and insisted this be as limited as possible........Knowledgeable people had told us this first interview (with Barbara Walters @ ABC) was worth millions of dollars to the networks. Unlike some of their other guests, we were never paid a penny."

Now, wasn't it noble of them to sacrifice their privacy for an unpaid public interview?

Wink, wink! Suurrreee they did!

 

[midwest mama]

Whhhaaattt? You all think JR was LIEING?? That fine, respectable, Christian family man?? Tsk. Tsk. :saythat:

 

[Darlene733510]

When the book came out they made the grand tour with their pity party. We know that when their lips were moving they were lying, and when ML exonerated them they just puffed up their feathers and carried on as though nothing ever happened. Poor JB had to put up with these cruel people. If only someone had done that intervention before all this happened. Everyone failed this beautiful child. I wonder if it ever bothers them, but they have to live knowing they did not intercede, and someday they will answer for their sin.

 

[midwest mama]

When the book came out they made the grand tour with their pity party. We know that when their lips were moving they were lying, and when ML exonerated them they just puffed up their feathers and carried on as though nothing ever happened. Poor JB had to put up with these cruel people. If only someone had done that intervention before all this happened. Everyone failed this beautiful child. I wonder if it ever bothers them, but they have to live knowing they did not intercede, and someday they will answer for their sin.

It is too bad the intervention talked about wasn't done earlier, yes, but I don't think most of those people realized all that was possibly going on behind the Ramsey closed doors. Even the housekeepers who were in and out of the house saw some things "amiss", but not enough to feel compelled to speak out or alert authorities.

We can't be too hard on others who were led to believe something other than the truth by the R's - look at how good they were for so many years at keeping very intelligent people at bay with all their "smoke and mirrors".

 

[Darlene733510]

It's not that I am too hard on them. I truly believe that there were many people at fault in many ways. If the Ramsey's were poor, we would have seen them behind bars. If they did not have the money to use for favors granted, do you think they could have hired the devil himself(LW) and his goodies to represent them?
I worked in the admitstrative services of many schools, and if a child constantly appeared before the school nurse the parents were called in for a conference. If there was suspicion of abuse we contacted a social worker, who went to the home. Maybe that is why PR did so much volunteer work at the school - she was using the drama theme that such a fine upstanding Mother, who was frequently there, must have been the equivalent of the "Brady Bunch" at home. They all fooled us because of the same old thing that some say is the root of all evil.....Money and politics!!

 

[Darlene733510]

In my above post I spelled administrative wrong - just one of those "senior moments".

 

[BOESP]

Let's not be too harsh on the R's (cough, cough) - This was in DOI:
"To promote the book, we would have to appear publicly. We were not anxious to do so, and insisted this be as limited as possible........Knowledgeable people had told us this first interview (with Barbara Walters @ ABC) was worth millions of dollars to the networks. Unlike some of their other guests, we were never paid a penny."

Now, wasn't it noble of them to sacrifice their privacy for an unpaid public interview?

BBM. Interesting turn of phrase and interesting choice for a book title. They gained many sales from their appearance and they got the title right because the book sure indicated their innocence was dead.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I wonder why they didn't put a picture of all three of them on the cover of the book?

 

[DeeDee249]

I wonder why they didn't put a picture of all three of them on the cover of the book?

Just like BR, she was already erased from their lives. BR left her out of a drawing he did of his family just days after his sister's death. They walked out of the house that night and she was no longer a part of their lives.

 

[CanManEh]

How come none of the tv crime shows have made a big deal about this . Why havn't he heard anything about it in the media except on here . You would think this would be a huge deal something that all the nancy grace's and alike would wanna get out there in the public so why no media attention to this ?/????

 

[midwest mama]

Just like BR, she was already erased from their lives. BR left her out of a drawing he did of his family just days after his sister's death. They walked out of the house that night and she was no longer a part of their lives.

I can just imagine what the smirk looked like on the face of the person who came up with the book title, Death of Innocence. Oh yeah, we all thought the book was going to tell us the Ramsey's side of how they lost their beloved little girl, and were devastated at the thought that society thought anyone other than an intruder could have killed her.

Not far into the read, it doesn't take very long to see that what the Ramsey's wanted to do was tell us how they became so "abused" by the media, and their innocence was so shattered by untruths swirling around them, that they were never going to have a chance to have happy, sane lives again. And all of this on top of how horribly John suffered over Beth's loss as well.

Funny, innocent parents who are able to stand up to early police investigation which enables the police to move on and work towards finding their dead child's kidnappers and killers, usually are able to back out of the media limelight and live respectable lives.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

How come none of the tv crime shows have made a big deal about this . Why havn't he heard anything about it in the media except on here . You would think this would be a huge deal something that all the nancy grace's and alike would wanna get out there in the public so why no media attention to this ?/????

Huh? It was covered by People Magazine, CNN, CBS, ABC, Huffington Post, Yahoo, NBC, FOX, NY Post, Daily Mail, LA Times, USA Today, GMA, Today, Extra, etc. That seems like a lot of media attention to me, especially for a 17-year-old case. Just do a search for JonBenet parents indicted, and many news links come up.

 

[otg]

The R's did an interview in March 2000 with the Rocky Mountain News and this is an excerpt:

"They have scaled back their lifestyle, partly from necessity. John has learned that his name can be a liability in business. Gone are the Michigan vacation home, the airplane, the boat.

Their cars, a Honda and an Audi, are leased . They have been paying massive legal bills - more than $1 million - by depleting savings, tapping retirement plans and selling assets"

-Don't they still own the Michigan vacation home in 2013?
-I know they still have at least one airplane. I actually feel safe to say they still have two planes.
-Don't they still have the boat too? I think I saw something on FFJ about it; I don't think it was sold pre-2000 though.
-"More than 1 million" is pretty vague.
-If you were really broke, why do they have an Audi--leased or not?
-March 2000 is when their book came out. Trust me; They pocketed A LOT of money from media appearances to promote that book since those interviews were the first time they had a sit-down interview with the US media. WTF @ doing an interview to tell everyone how "poor" you are now when checks for $$$ were being written to them from every major media outlet. If they did spend $1 million on legal fees in the prior three years, well they made it all back that month!

Ever wonder what kind of plane you own if you were "financially devastated" (while the photos last)? Or what the operating costs would be for a simple little getaway (not including the cost of a pilot if needed)?

And before anyone screams about privacy -- it's posted in a public album.

 

[Nom de plume]

Ever wonder what kind of plane you own if you were "financially devastated" (while the photos last)? Or what the operating costs would be for a simple little getaway (not including the cost of a pilot if needed)?

And before anyone screams about privacy -- it's posted in a public album.

OMG! $235/HR !!!! Poor, poor poverty stricken John. He's probably ashamed for all his buddies to see him reduced to a little prop job. (I'm presuming he had something more in line with a Lear before.) How my heart bleeds for him.....NOT!

 

[UKGuy]

Ever wonder what kind of plane you own if you were "financially devastated" (while the photos last)? Or what the operating costs would be for a simple little getaway (not including the cost of a pilot if needed)?

And before anyone screams about privacy -- it's posted in a public album.

otg,
Take the Ramsey claims about poverty with a pinch of salt. Their planes and cars, particularly the leased versions will be tax deductible.

So the scale back likely represents a retrenchment to corporate sensibility where privacy can be more easily enforced?

Consider the Ramsey's corporate capital holdings, I have never seen any listing of their ownership, but I know they exist. BR has shareholdings in various energy companies, both JR and BR play the markets.

What I am saying is that the Ramsey wealth is deliberately hidden from public view!


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[midwest mama]

Makes sense the R's would do whatever they could to hide their financial status from public view. After all, they've had lots of experience hiding so much for so many years from public view, haven't they -- beginning with what went on in that dysfunctional home behind closed doors for a while before December 1996, right?

And, if they believe the public is duped as to their wealth, which they should have no trouble believing, since they also believe they've duped most of the public for over 16 years as to their involvement in JB's death, then they will find it oh so much easier to continue to use the first opportunity they have to whine about all the injustices JB's death has laid at their feet over the years. BS and ballyhoo. Makes my blood boil. :furious:

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If you had to guess, how much do you think the R's spent on their team over the past 17 years? In 2000, John said they had spent "more than $1 million". That is pretty vague, and I believe that was intentional. I take that number with a grain of salt though. It might be true, but I think they have reasons for putting it at that amount. Anyway...so what does everyone think they spent? And do you think that a lot of the coverup was due to connections, more so than simply paying people? Like the fact that John and Mike Bynum were good friends before the murder? And wasn't John fraternity brothers with the husband of the Lt. Governor?