Why doesn't anyone think it could've been John.

[susang0907]

This theory is possible but is it likely? We know John Ramsey had affairs.
Why not continue to have affairs when PR was undergoing treatment?
He had money and status. He didn't need to turn to JB for situational sex IMO. He either is or isn't a pedo.
He could have bought all the sex he wanted and we know he talks a good game. If he can sell a kidnapping story, he can bs to get a little!

Has anyone ever considered that maybe Patsy Ramsey was having an affair and someone associated with her did this to the little girl. I mean she was home during the day and did not work so it is very possible that maybe she ended the affair and it sparked something in the individual. Just a thought I mean either could have had an affair and the amount of the bonus could have been mentioned to anyone that either one of them trusted to tell.

 

[ispywithmylittleeye]

The biggest issue is the link of Patsy to the Ransom note, the handwriting samples, the RN analysis. It's hard to say that the chemo diminished Patsy's strength and she was frail. Patsy was diagnosed on July 4th 1993. Her final chemo treatment was somewhere in the ballpark of March 1994. She had 1.5 years to recover. If the swing was done right, Patsy could have caused the injury.

The biggest JDI advocate out there is DocG. Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case Some people here will tell you how wrong DocG is because he vigorously defends his theory and ignores some evidence. That's true. For me, I believe DocG only went so far on the case, decided he had it and stopped asking questions. Case solved. That's it. The end.

John's motive is always sexual. He's not portrayed as a pedophile who seeks out children, but as a sexual situational aggressor. Basically, if Patsy isn't available, he'll turn to his daughter if they're in the right place and time. In this theory, John knows he'll be exposed so in a moment of panic, he kills his daughter. He's 52 at this time in his life, has money, and can seek out call girls for his sexual needs if he's so inclined so turning to his daughter makes him infinitely worse if he did such a thing.

JDI is a valid theory. It's every bit as valid as PDI. I'm not in the BDI camp not because I don't think Burke could have done it, but because James Kolar's most compelling piece of evidence, the train track, is wrong. It's like Lou Smit and the stun gun--easily debunked.

JR cheated on his first wife. He was cheating on a girlfriend with Patsy. This sounds like a player or P hound not a pedo. I just don't subscribe to JR not knowing where to seek out fun. He was away on business alot.
He had money and status. My gut says he didn't have to go without.
Now, occasionally, when I see him lie like a corporate sociopath, we'll maybe he's both!

 

[Justice101]

You all are a lot more knowledgeable able all the actors in this crime. However, I do think these statements are true:

1) The ransom note was written by Patsy. (I have a friend who is a certified hand writing expert who was consulted on the JBR case who said he was 90% sure she wrote the ransom note and reported back accordingly.)
2) The knock in the head probably came from Burke and Patsy tried to cover it up with the garrote and strangulation.
3) They lawyered up so much and the Boulder PD was so bad that they never had enough evidence to bring the case forward for prosecution.
4) I think John went straight to bed due to heavy drinking and that Patsy witnessed the aftermath of the pineapple incident and knew she was dead and sent Burke to bed and told him to be quiet.

But then again, what do I know.

Please shoot holes in these points.

 

[Swirlz]

How does any of the following fit with Burke as opposed to an adult being the party responsible for the knock on the head:

1. A trophy being knocked off of a shelf too high up for JBR to be able to reach in a bedroom that is otherwise neat.

2. JBR's toilet containing unflushed waste.

3. A pair of JBR's soiled pants being inside-out on her bathroom floor.

4. A diaper having been pulled partway out of a package of diapers on JBR's shelf and too high up for JBR to be able to reach.

5. First responders claiming the bedroom stank of urine.

6. JBR's urine-stained bedsheet being in the dryer.

7. The top Patsy claimed to have put JBR to bed in being on top of JBR's bathroom sink.

 

[Justice101]

How does any of the following fit with Burke as opposed to an adult being the party responsible for the knock on the head:

1. A trophy being knocked off of a shelf too high up for JBR to be able to reach in a bedroom that is otherwise neat.

2. JBR's toilet containing unflushed waste.

3. A pair of JBR's soiled pants being inside-out on her bathroom floor.

4. A diaper having been pulled partway out of a package of diapers on JBR's shelf and too high up for JBR to be able to reach.

5. First responders claiming the bedroom stank of urine.

6. JBR's urine-stained bedsheet being in the dryer.

7. The top Patsy claimed to have put JBR to bed in being on top of JBR's bathroom sink.

Interesting.. If factual, those are very interesting points

 

[Swirlz]

If factual,

Fwiw my sources are the crime-scene walkthrough video, Patsy's police interview transcript and Steve Thomas' book.

 

[Justice101]

Fwiw my sources are the crime-scene walkthrough video, Patsy's police interview transcript and Steve Thomas' book.

Do you think that Patsy wrote the ransom note?

 

[CloudedTruth]

I would add that it’s arguable that the DA’s office was at least as much to blame as the BPD was, perhaps more so. BPD was responsible for some key mistakes early on, but then pretty much got on track. The DA’s office actively worked to obstruct the investigation, meddled and gave unprecedented assistance to the defense. The GJ (which DA Hunter literally had to be forced into convening) returned two true bills for each parent based upon evidence and testimony. Hunter declined to prosecute and withheld the fact that the GJ did vote to indict from the public for 13 years.

 

[Swirlz]

Do you think that Patsy wrote the ransom note?

Probably. What do you think?

 

[Justice101]

Probably. What do you think?

I'm 90% sure she did so she was involved in the death or at the minimum trying to cover it up