Why doesn't anyone think it could've been John.

[Meara]

Cranberry hit a tech Issue trying to post the photos she mentioned, but we made a workaround. Here they are, and thanks to Cranberry!

 

[Rain on my Parade]

borndem, after I replied to you some puzzling details came to mind, so I'm going to modify my previous comment with respect to the location and put some questions out to the forum in general. Thanks for bringing up this subject!

Investigators have said that the events leading to JBR's death most likely started in the kitchen. To me, it's important that they don't think they started in JBR's bedroom or any other upstairs room, or in the basement. But, why the kitchen and not the Breakfast Room, where the bowl of pineapple and empty tea glass were found? Does anyone know what evidence made them decide on the kitchen?

Also, crime scene images show a pillow inside a pillowcase on the central kitchen counter. The image below is a screenshot from BPD's crime scene video:

(view from the Breakfast Room looking toward the kitchen)

It appears to be a standard size pillow. Can anyone confirm?

On a different thread, a WS member said the pillow came from BR's bed, although crime scene images are inconclusive on this point. Can anyone clarify?

One might assume that the pillow was in that location when police arrived on the morning of 12/26. However, we know that many things in the kitchen got moved around during the day, and that the crime scene videos weren't filmed until the night of 12/26. Therefore, it's unclear whether the pillow was there when police first arrived and might be related to the crime, or was placed in that location at a later time and is unrelated to the crime. Can anyone clarify?

If the pillow was found in the kitchen when police arrived on the morning of 12/26, was that a factor in their conclusion that events leading to JBR's death began in the kitchen? Can anyone confirm/elaborate?

Thanks in advance to members for any answers or insights.

Rain on my Parade,
The pillow was on a table in the Kitchen area and definitely did not look like it had a beauty and the beast pillowcase.

Meaning the one in her bedroom complete with bloodstain suggests JonBenet's head or body was on that pillow, suggesting something took place in her bedroom, surprise, surprise.

Which bedroom could the Kitchen pillow have come from?

Might be Patsy was given a hint where the questioning might be going prior to being interviewed, saying she cannot see any blood is almost incriminating given she is then asked about nosebleeds, etc.

IMO JonBenet was redressed in her bedroom and possibly whacked on the head there, resulting in the blood on the pillow, along with other items, that Patsy cleaned and removed, hence she thinks there are no bloodstains in the room.

Since her Pink Barbie Nightgown is stained with her blood, this suggests she may have been wearing it in her bedroom, hence why it was dumped in the wine-cellar?

.

 

[CloudedTruth]

I too think it's most likely that whatever happened began in JB's bedroom. But that's kind of inconvenient to the aspect of everyone being sound asleep and not hearing a thing, in particular Burke whose bedroom was on the same floor.

When they moved JB to the basement, they also moved some things from her bedroom, the pink Barbie nightgown and her blanket. Both items had blood on them. Had they left them in her bedroom, that would be a sure sign that at least part of what happened that night occurred in her bedroom. IMO they moved these items to the basement to support their premise that the basement was where everything happened....which was located far enough away from the rest of the "sleeping" family to support their claims of not hearing anything. Why the pillow with a spot of blood was left in the kitchen is interesting. An oversight maybe? Some things just didn't make a lot of sense, but I think they just ran out of time.

 

[Meara]

Following up on my commitment to find sources for the “started in the kitchen” theory, I found it mentioned on p. 559 of PMPT (Kindle ed. ) that in the early weeks of the investigation this was the theory favored by detectives working the case. I’m not arguing for it, just saying this is what Schiller reported. I’ll keep looking.