How do we explain his interview with Dr. Bernhardt? He says he knows what happened and is so close to the truth it’s scary. A few days later he is overheard as DS house explaining to Doug how JB was strangled. So there is that.
Also, the autopsy stated that JB had mucus and blood in her nose (which can happen after a head blow). Explains the blood on the pillow and nightgown but not the location of the pillow.
BR and PR can’t be excluded from handling the Barbie nightgown and long Johns.
What really gets me about this case is the dna that is supported also states that there is a third party involved; the panties, long John’s, and under JB nails. They state it is not causation but Hispanic. I have researched this part to no end.
Clouded truth you are very well read in this case. Can you give us some in site into who the Hispanic friend could be? I often have thought that DS had to be involved. Last stop of the night. Possibly going to Michigan with BR to keep him away from JB. I have found no Hispanic ancestry with DS. Perhaps it’s just a monkey in the wrench scenario.
Also as a side note *BR has stated that he felt guilty for leaving the front door of the house unlocked that night.
Well, first I will say this.....kids often overhear things being said that their parents haven't a clue that they did overhear. I think it's very likely that this was the case with Burke. Both JR and PR said that they never discussed some things with Burke, never even asked him if he heard anything that night. Thus they have expressed being surprised at some of the things he has said after the fact.
According to Kolar's book, he recounts how he viewed a video tape of Burke's session with Dr. Bernhardt. Burke did say that he "knew" what had happened, but he didn't quite get it right. He said that he asked his father about where JB's body had been found, and JR responded that she had been found in the basement. So then he is asked what he thought had happened and he responds that he thought someone had quietly carried her downstairs to the basement and that person had either stabbed JB or struck a blow to her head with a hammer. IMO the inclusion of being carried down to the basement came from his conversation with JR who had told him that's where her body was found. She was not stabbed, but he did get the blow to the head right and that could very well be the result of having either heard something that night or heard it being discussed. Notably, when asked if he feels safe, he says that he does.
It's my understanding that the long johns belonged to Burke and were in a bag of clothes that were to be donated. As residents of the house who all interacted with each other, I don't think it's unusual or suspicious that PR or Burke's DNA would be found on the nightie or the long johns. Additionally, DNA is easily transferred between clothing items that are washed together.
Also in Kolar's book is a recount of what Susan Stine told Mary Ann Kaempfer she overheard her son Doug and Burke discussing, which occurred on the afternoon following the grief counseling session that took place at JonBenet and Burke's school on the morning of 12/28. "Based on Kaempfer's statement, it appeared that Stine had overheard the boys discussing whether or not manual strangulation had been involved in JonBenet's death". It was covered in the news on 12/28 that JB had been strangled. So again, I don't think we can discount that either Doug or Burke may have heard about that.
It has been speculated before that Doug was to accompany the Ramseys to Michigan, but I find that highly doubtful. The trip was going to be very quick, so much so that I wonder why JR was apparently so insistent upon taking it knowing that they had to fly back to Colorado to then take a commercial flight to Florida for the Big Red Boat trip for PR's birthday. The full details of that schedule are still sketchy, but we know that PR was not thrilled about having to go to Charlevoix first and for such a short time. Additionally, JR's plane that they were taking only had room for 8 persons total, which included the pilot. Scheduled to be on the plane from Denver were Mike Archuleta (pilot), JR sitting in the co-pilot seat, PR, Burke and JB. That's 5. Then in Minneapolis, they were picking up JAR, Melinda and her boyfriend Stuart for a total of 8. This is the maximum capacity for that plane, and includes having one passenger sitting on the seat that covers the toilet. There was no room for Doug or anyone else.
As for the front door, IIRC what Burke said is that he wondered if he had left the front door unlocked that night, I don't recall it as being definitive. Nonetheless, we have JR telling police that he had checked all the doors and windows before bed that night and everything was locked. He stated that more than once if memory serves.
As to the DNA evidence, it is very weak IMO. I did hear some early reports that indicated UM1 might be Hispanic. And since then, I have also heard Asian. That said, from my understanding which admittedly I am not well versed enough to state with any certainty, there was so little of this "foreign DNA" that it can be argued as fairly inconsequential since its presence does not definitively prove there was someone else in the house that night. None of the samples taken from the panties or the fingernails revealed a full profile aside from JB herself. They struggled to meet the criteria for entry in the CODIS database, which to date has not had any hits at all. And that's likely because the foreign DNA is not from an individual at all, but possibly from multiple donors. So it's a stretch to say that the DNA profiles taken from her fingernails, panties and long johns matched. Here is an explanation from a contributor on Reddit that explains the testing done better than I can:
There wasn't enough genetic material recovered (in 1997) from either the underwear or the fingernails to say the samples matched.
Here is a more detailed explanation regarding the underwear and fingernail DNA samples.
The fingernail samples were tested in 1997 by the CBI. Older types of DNA testing (DQA1 + Polymarker and D1S80) were used at that time. The profiles that the CBI obtained from the fingernails in 1997 could not be compared to the profiles that Bode obtained from the long johns in 2008. The testing that was done in 1997 targeted different markers than the testing that was done in 2008.
The underwear were retested in 2003 using STR analysis (a different type of testing than that used in 1997.) After some work, Greg LaBerge of the Denver Crime Lab, was able to recover a profile which was later submitted to CODIS. This profile is usually referred to as "Unknown Male 1."
After learning about "touch" DNA, Mary Lacy (former Boulder D.A.) sent the underwear and the long johns to Bode Technology for more testing in 2008. You can find the reports
here and
here.
Three small areas were cut from the crotch of the underwear and tested. Analysts, however, were unable to replicate the Unknown Male 1 profile.
Four areas of the long johns were also sampled and tested; the exterior top right half, exterior top left half, interior top right half and interior top left half. The exterior top right half revealed a mixture of at least two individuals including JBR. The Unknown Male 1 profile couldn't be excluded as a contributor to this mixture. The partial profile obtained from the exterior top left half also revealed a mixture of at least two individuals including JBR. The Unknown Male 1 profile couldn't be included or excluded as a contributor to this mixture. The remaining two samples from the long johns also revealed mixtures, but the samples weren't suitable for comparison.
Lab analysts made a note on the first report stating that it was likely that more than two individuals contributed to each of the exterior long john mixtures, and therefore, the remaining DNA contribution to each mixture (not counting JBR's) should not be considered a single source profile.
Here's a news article/video explaining the caveat noted in the report.
TLDR; There wasn't enough DNA recovered from the fingernails or the underwear in 1997 to say the samples matched. In 2003, an STR profile, referred to as Unknown Male 1, was developed from the underwear. In 2008, the long johns were tested. The Unknown Male 1 profile couldn't be excluded from one side of the long johns, and couldn't be included or excluded from the other side of the long johns. Analysts, however, noted that neither long johns profile should be considered a single source profile.
IMO when one considers the lack of good hygiene habits exhibited by JB in particular, the DNA evidence in this case becomes difficult to hang one's hat upon. It's just enough to cause doubt, but by no means proof of an intruder. The scientists involved in the testing were very clear when explaining this to DA Lacey prior to her "exoneration" and apology to JR which is virtually meaningless legally. JB was playing outside riding her bike during the day on Christmas. Numerous friends of Burke were in and out of the house during the day. Then they were at the White's house with several other guests. At one point, JB and Daphne are playing on the floor. When asked why the last time JB had a bath was, PR couldn't say but she was pretty sure that she had not had one on Christmas day. She was also asked when the last time JB had washed her hands, and she also could not say. Did she wash her hands before dinner that night? PR didn't know, but she did say JB didn't like to wash her hands. JR was also asked this and he also didn't know. So it doesn't sound like either parent told or asked JB to wash her hands before dinner. Since that didn't happen, it's very doubtful that she washed her hands. Add to this the possibility that has been floated that during the autopsy the clippers used for her fingernails were potentially NOT sterilized, or that separate clippers were used for each hand, and IMO I just don't think the DNA evidence in this case is strong at all. There wasn't all that much "foreign" DNA to begin with, it isn't a smoking gun by any stretch of the imagination. Again, this is just my opinion. No foreign DNA was found on JB's body, only on some items of her clothing. And there is also the fact that they aren't sure what is the source of the foreign DNA. Sperm has been ruled out and based upon some tests they think it might be from saliva, however serological testing done on the panties for amylase (an enzyme found in saliva and sweat) were inconclusive. Amylase is also found in urine, and since the panties were soaked in JB's urine, that's probably why the test was inconclusive.
