Why Have George and Cindy Requested a Video Visitation With Casey?

[kaRN]

JB may not be the only one advising ICA. MAYBE her psychologist/psychiatrist has advised her to cease contact?

I'm sure that comment won't be a popular opinion but toxic people trash others lives ...
we have NO IDEA what ICA possibly endured in that home
MOO

You're right but whatever it was she endured, she did so willingly and then allowed a baby to endure it too while she partied. Sometimes people are just born evil and I believe that's the case here.

 

[darnudes]

A thought just occurred to me, does anyone think the latest motion by Mason would NOT have been filed if Cindy and George had left well enough alone and not asked for sealed visitations nor let their lawyer loose in the media to call Baez out?

Seems like a tit for tat situation happening. We know ICA is vindictive, Cindy called her that and ICA basically admitted it as well.

Seems like ICA is saying "you wanna get nasty just before my trial about my lawyer and create issues - I'll show you nasty and keep you out all together!"

I can't wait for this sorry saga to be over with - the circus never stops.

 

[MissJames]

CA will feel satisfied after having to do three years of kissing up to him.

While I don't disagree with this, we have heard many times from the legal people here that these hearings are different than the trial. Already the SAO is asking for previous hearings transcripts concerning the testimony of CA and GA. Their sympathy, what's left of it, for the As will be gone. Like mine went back on July 16, 08.

Linda, Jeff and George won't hold back with any of the As. They will hold each one of them to the fire with their previous testimonies.

And if any of them drastically change or admit the zany story is just that .... watch for those handcuffs to be snapped on an As wrist faster than grease lightnin'. One for lying, two for spending the states budget, three because they are an Anthony.

Nope, the As, like ICA are locked into Zanny, like ICA is to the 31 days.

After reading Cheney's motion to objection to the As motion, it's the first and only good read from the DT to date. I actually agree with Cheney. Oh good grief did I really, truly say that.

Like I said up thread, this is motion is CA doing a CYA and it didn't work then and it ain'tta gonna work now.

Where's that bus smilie? I think the A's want to get on the same page as ICA .Maybe they were surprised when LKB announced the nanny was a lie :waitasec: They need direction ,now ,in what to say on the stand. :crazy:If the nanny is out ,what new story should they go with?

 

[ZsaZsa]

A good post that makes me think. The BBM lines is something I agree with. I don't know about the anger ICA has or had for her parents, but I can guess she didn't like the constant questions about Caylee and what happened or where she might be. I think ICA wanted no parts of being grilled about her missing daughter.

What I do find interesting among the questions from the Anthonys' to their daughter is never once did either ask ICA why Caylee needed to be with a Nanny so much of the time. Surely GA and CA knew Casey wasn't holding down a job and had no need for a round the clock Nanny. But, they never asked her where she was and what was she doing that required for Caylee be watched by another person outside the family.
jmo

GA did, he even went to the Sports Authority to verify if ICA (where she was supposedly working) did work there and they'd never heard of her. When he told CA what he'd done she was irate that he was "spying on her"...

 

[Patty G]

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[Softail]

A thought just occurred to me, does anyone think the latest motion by Mason would NOT have been filed if Cindy and George had left well enough alone and not asked for sealed visitations nor let their lawyer loose in the media to call Baez out?

Seems like a tit for tat situation happening. We know ICA is vindictive, Cindy called her that and ICA basically admitted it as well.

Seems like ICA is saying "you wanna get nasty just before my trial about my lawyer and create issues - I'll show you nasty and keep you out all together!"
I can't wait for this sorry saga to be over with - the circus never stops.

That or something along the lines of "This is MY show! NOT yours! Don't you remember? I am the boss, not you! " :dramaqueen:

 

[azwriter]

Oh, I agree 100%!! I have always believed that it was Casey who was calling the shots! I never thought that JB had a huge role in Casey not accepting her parents visits. Casey sure liked to blame JB and JB had no problem taking the blame for it so that it didn't make Casey look heartless and cruel.

Now not only do we have Cindy and George's attorney blaming JB in the media for not even giving them the courtesy of giving them an answer... you have the defense, who files these motions on their clients behalf, wanting the Anthony's out of that courtroom for the duration of the trial... because you know they will simply state that they could be called back as witnesses so they will not excuse them as witnesses. Casey does not want her parents in that courtroom. She does not want to see them.

I think the lines have been drawn pretty clearly... Casey wants nothing to do with her parents as she is about to do something during this trial that is going to destroy them even more than her taking Caylee away from them... I know nothing should have been worse than Caylee being murdered, but we're dealing with the Anthony's here.

I sure hope Lee is paying attention! I think him not filing a motion to be excluded from the rules of sequestration says a lot. He's not falling on a sword for Casey... and I think he sees everything for what it is... at least I hope he does.

LolaMoon, bless your little Florida heart. Your predictions of Casey doing something during the trial to destroy her parents further has me on the edge of my seat. You very well could be right.

Interesting your pointing out Lee and his pretrial behavior. Remarkably, he's acting like a person who hasn't lied and hasn't done much to cover for his sister. His testimony should be quite interesting. Bring On The Trial!
jmo

 

[MissJames]

Or else she has no further use for them.

Bingo.

Listening to her jailhouse phone convo with Christine,ICA blurts out the "waste,huge waste" when Christine gets emotional. Then,perhaps realizing she may need Christine at some point,she puts on the sugary voice and says "Honey,you know I love you,but......"
That's how quickly she turns it on and off. It's all about what someone can do for her. Your in.Your out.

 

[LambChop]

A thought just occurred to me, does anyone think the latest motion by Mason would NOT have been filed if Cindy and George had left well enough alone and not asked for sealed visitations nor let their lawyer loose in the media to call Baez out?

Seems like a tit for tat situation happening. We know ICA is vindictive, Cindy called her that and ICA basically admitted it as well.

Seems like ICA is saying "you wanna get nasty just before my trial about my lawyer and create issues - I'll show you nasty and keep you out all together!"

I can't wait for this sorry saga to be over with - the circus never stops.

I would think KC just does not want her parents in that courtroom during the trial so they can see the evidence and pictures. KC may have even gone so far as to tell JB to keep them out for defense purposes until right before JB gives his closing statement. KC sure did not like Lee's testimony. She did not make eye contact when he left the stand and once he was behind her, her hands were going a mile a minute in what looked like, "See, I told you he would say that."

For the A's if they give testimony that helps KC, JB will leave them alone. If it is negative he will try to impeach them. My guess is SA will ask as few questions as possible so they don't get beat up on cross. jmo

 

[LolaMoon08]

A good post that makes me think. The BBM lines is something I agree with. I don't know about the anger ICA has or had for her parents, but I can guess she didn't like the constant questions about Caylee and what happened or where she might be. I think ICA wanted no parts of being grilled about her missing daughter.

What I do find interesting among the questions from the Anthonys' to their daughter is never once did either ask ICA why Caylee needed to be with a Nanny so much of the time. Surely GA and CA knew Casey wasn't holding down a job and had no need for a round the clock Nanny. But, they never asked her where she was and what was she doing that required for Caylee be watched by another person outside the family. jmo

BBM - This is my problem with them believing Casey needed a nanny. George states in his M&M deposition that he and Cindy had Caylee 90% of the time. So why would Casey need a nanny if she were only watching Caylee 10% of the time? As much as they like to say Casey was a "Mother of the Year" and all... spending only 10% of that time with your child and then pawning her off on a nanny doesn't seem very motherly to me??

Everything they say contradicts what they say. If that makes any sense??

What I also find interesting is that Lee readily admits that he knew nothing about a nanny until July 15th, 2008. I will give him a little pass because he didn't live at the home, but I am shocked that Cindy didn't fill Lee in on what was going on when she sent him out to search for Casey on July 3rd?. In Cindy's July 3rd, 2008 Myspace posting... there is no mention of a nanny taking care of Caylee... as a matter of fact... Cindy wants to know who is now looking out for Caylee?? Cindy doesn't know WHO is watching Caylee.

I don't know?? I just wish ONE person would tell the truth!! Just ONE! Maybe Mallory??

 

[LinasK]

Call me jaded but the main problem I see with any plea is that JB must go through trial to get his DP qualification. Of course the taxpayers are footing the expense for this. I need to consult with AZ also on the legalities of ICA profiting as well. The SOS law prevents her from doing so if she's responsible for the death. I don't know about if she cops to an accident. I don't think there is anyone who can file a wrongful death suit against her either like in the OJ and SP case.

Couldn't other family do that: Cindy, George, Lee, Grandma Shirley, Uncle Rick...???

 

[LinasK]

bold is mine

Gee, wouldn't that be nice. I wish Cindy would tell her daughter "Ya know even if you did this I will still love you" Cindy's denial is just another in her long line of trying to re-create her daughter's history to fit her needs. Wouldn't it be so nice to hear the woman say to her daughter.. "I love you no matter what you did.. I will be here for you no matter what you did. I love you unconditionally ." It seems the only way she's able to love her daughter is if she's perfect. That is very sad. I wish Casey felt she could tell her mother the truth and know she'd still be loved.

:truce:See, that's where I differ- I will never love my daughter "unconditionally". There are conditions on my love, just not perfection. If my daughter grows up to be a sociopath like Casey and murders someone, especially my granddaughter, I will NOT lie and cover-up for her :snooty: (she needs to take responsibility for her own actions), I may not even choose to visit or remain in contact with her.
Cindy's "unconditional" love for Casey is exactly why the Mother of the Year is where she is:behindbar.:twocents:

 

[Snaz]

I can't wait to read this objection.

Here you go.....

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/27793003/detail.html

 

[OneLostGrl]

BBM - This is my problem with them believing Casey needed a nanny. George states in his M&M deposition that he and Cindy had Caylee 90% of the time. So why would Casey need a nanny if she were only watching Caylee 10% of the time? As much as they like to say Casey was a "Mother of the Year" and all... spending only 10% of that time with your child and then pawning her off on a nanny doesn't seem very motherly to me??

Everything they say contradicts what they say. If that makes any sense??

What I also find interesting is that Lee readily admits that he knew nothing about a nanny until July 15th, 2008. I will give him a little pass because he didn't live at the home, but I am shocked that Cindy didn't fill Lee in on what was going on when she sent him out to search for Casey on July 3rd?. In Cindy's July 3rd, 2008 Myspace posting... there is no mention of a nanny taking care of Caylee... as a matter of fact... Cindy wants to know who is now looking out for Caylee?? Cindy doesn't know WHO is watching Caylee.

I don't know?? I just wish ONE person would tell the truth!! Just ONE! Maybe Mallory??

This is just my take on the bolded above

I think Lee loves his mother very much and I think his mother knows he'd do anything for her (he's her rescuer IMO) she may have not told him things so he wouldn't worry. He was pretty straight up in that jail phone call with Casey "I'm not gonna allow you to treat me like you have been mom for the past month" "I'm done with that". I think he's pissed she is screwing with his mother. It took her a long time to have him go looking for Casey. I don't think Cindy went to him about Casey's antics often.. only in extremes.

 

[Scamperoo]

I KNEW IT!!! I knew the defense would object if the SA was not going to object. :floorlaugh: This is hilarious!! They do not want the Anthony's to be in that courtroom to see themselves get thrown under the bus!! LOVES IT!!

That or they know the Anthony's will not stay away from the internet and news reports and will ask for a mistrial??

Either way... I think JB may need some security at his office tonight?

Really!!! Colour me flummoxed, bamboozled and gob smacked!!! I never saw that one coming....:great:

 

[MissJames]

:truce:See, that's where I differ- I will never love my daughter "unconditionally". There are conditions on my love, just not perfection. If my daughter grows up to be a sociopath like Casey and murders someone, especially my granddaughter, I will NOT lie and cover-up for her :snooty: (she needs to take responsibility for her own actions), I may not even choose to visit or remain in contact with her.
Cindy's "unconditional" love for Casey is exactly why the Mother of the Year is where she is:behindbar.:twocents:

I may be off base,but I kind of think that's what OLG meant :waitasec:

To have ICA actually say what happened,knowing they love her,but won't cover for her,even if that means the public gets to see them as a less than perfect family.
ICA knows that the cover up is not so much for her benefit,as it is for CA's.That's how she was raised.
"Bad grades? Not my perfect daughter.Can you believe how horrible that teacher is?"
You see,when CA intervened ,she only saved face where she thought it mattered TO HER. She was happy to throw ICA under bus when it was ICA's peers involved.

.Back it up a bit ,if CA's love had been unconditional from the get go,ICA may not have grown up to be a baby murderer.

OLG,forgive me,I got it wrong :seeya:

 

[OneLostGrl]

:truce:See, that's where I differ- I will never love my daughter "unconditionally". There are conditions on my love, just not perfection. If my daughter grows up to be a sociopath like Casey and murders someone, especially my granddaughter, I will NOT lie and cover-up for her :snooty: (she needs to take responsibility for her own actions), I may not even choose to visit or remain in contact with her.
Cindy's "unconditional" love for Casey is exactly why the Mother of the Year is where she is:behindbar.:twocents:

I guess I worded it wrong.. cuz I totally agree with your post!

I mean loving your child for who they are, not needing to pretend they did graduate high school when they didn't, needing to pretend a pregnancy is a tumor, pretending they have a job when you know they do not- but loving them. You don't love someone when you don't even accept their reality and are so ashamed by their reality that you lie to everyone you know (including yourself) about who and what they are.

SHE thinks unconditional love is lying for, excusing, covering up for etc. there is no love in that

 

[Spangle]

Wow, that was written very well.

Edited to add.. the object written by CM.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I may be off base,but I kind of think that's what OLG meant :waitasec:

To have ICA actually say what happened,knowing they love her,but won't cover for her,even if that means the public gets to see them as a less than perfect family.
ICA knows that the cover up is not so much for her benefit,as it is for CA's.That's how she was raised.
"Bad grades? Not my perfect daughter.Can you believe how horrible that teacher is?"
You see,when CA intervened ,she only saved face where she thought it mattered TO HER. She was happy to throw ICA under bus when it was ICA's peers involved.

.Back it up a bit ,if CA's love had been unconditional from the get go,ICA may not have grown up to be a baby murderer.

OLG,forgive me,I got it wrong :seeya:

You got it perfectly correct!

 

[OneLostGrl]

You're right but whatever it was she endured, she did so willingly and then allowed a baby to endure it too while she partied. Sometimes people are just born evil and I believe that's the case here.

I personally have a hard time thinking that's the case here. I'm sorry but look at the tree that apple fell from.