Why have Lisa's parents stopped talking to the media?

[Jacie Estes]

Why are the parents not talking to the media?
<snipped> Parents have sacrificed their lives for their children for nothing more than that is what parents do.

There are many atrocities....my mother was 'adopted out' as a newborn because a government, the US government, determined that 'Indians' weren't suitable parents and 'Christians' made better parents. My father's mother, at age 4, was taken away from her tribal family, again by the US government, and sent to a 'Christian' family where she became nothing more than 'live-in' help. She didn't have much schooling but she was away from those 'heathen' Indians [according to those who placed her]. Both my mother and grandmother never saw their parents or family again.

The one thing that I learned from both of these women is compassion; they went through the pain and the sorrow but they had compassion for others. I have compassion for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin. I don't see, with what has been released, any evidence that says they are guilty. They have lost their daughter, in a matter that is not verifiable now. They are, in their way, doing what they have to do for their other children. They still are in contact with LE and there is still media.

I have compassion for them because it is something that has been impressed upon me from the time I was a small girl, by two women who weren't shown compassion by their government or in my grandmother's case, by the people who were supposed to care for her.

 

[natsound]

This is my theory about why the parents are dealing with the media the way they are:

I think they are only popping up in the media every few months because it allows them to claim that they are keeping the case alive, HOWEVER, when the case goes months without being mentioned by any media outlet; its appeal, public interest, notoriety, recognition, etc all drop. Back in October, it was the hot case so anything Deborah and Jeremy said would be analyzed by all media. But now, it's a cold case, and there are thousands of cold cases out there. Deborah and Jeremy can give one small interview, and they don't have to worry about it generating a huge media blitz with the entire country suspecting them again. Just look at the attention given to their 6-month-mark interviews; just local. I think the goal is to let the case be forgotten, but not be too obvious about it.

You're spot on. DB and JI feel like they're out of the danger zone now... six months later. They still haven't canvassed the area on foot, searching for their baby, have they?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Rugen Team Investigations, LLC Missouri Private Investigator · 727 like this
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Since Jeremy Irwin's parents Rick and Melanie were in a grandparental rights lawsuit with Jeremy when Lisa went missing and they, along with Ashley, had never met Lisa, I am wondeirng if they are still being kept from seeing their grandson. Did Deborah have something to do with this? Is this at all connected with the $109 lawsuit Ashley previously filed against Jeremy that she probably now regrets?

https://www.facebook.com/KansasCityPI/posts/10150715260432453

 

[redheadedgal]

They still are in contact with LE and there is still media.

i've been looking for the most recent link that corroborates this... i thought it had to do with deb giving LE more "notes"... is anyone able to help? TIA

 

[Donjeta]

Picerno told the Star that Bradley has given more than 100 pages of handwritten notes and other materials to investigators about her thoughts on the case and her recollections on the hours in question.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/17332959/search-for-baby-lisa-irwin-grows-cold

 

[redheadedgal]

thank you donjeta!

second question: if this is what was referred to in the post i quoted ("still in contact with LE"), do we have an actual date as to when this last occurred? and if i've made a mistake and this is not what was referred to, can a link be provided? TIA

 

[norest4thewicked]

i've been looking for the most recent link that corroborates this... i thought it had to do with deb giving LE more "notes"... is anyone able to help? TIA

They can spin it however they want to spin it. They can give LE a page a day for the next 20 years and declare that they are cooperating with LE. The FACT still remains that they will not speak to LE separately and there is no way they can spin this.

And, the old, stale, argument that they have already spoken to LE just doesn't wash. Of course they have spoken to LE - the first couple of days! So, all that has been discovered, reported, established and questioned in the days following their shut down with LE is still on the table.

They will never talk to LE separately because they can't keep their stories straight.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I wanted to see how harshly the media has treated the Irwins so I decided to do a search for all Kansas City Star articles about the case. I made a list of all headlines that were even just slightly negative about the family, even if they were true.

The KC Star has published 97 articles about the case.

1. Prayers offered for missing infant and family; mother says police accused her
2. Police say parents of missing girl stop cooperating, though relative denies it
3. Police now interviewing parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin
4. KC police search backyard of missing infant&#8217;s home
5. Family of missing baby Lisa Irwin gets high-profile attorney
6. Mom tells TV of drinking the night Baby Lisa disappeared: family gets lawyer
7. Investigators executing search warrant at Irwin family home
8. Investigators spend almost 17 hours searching inside Lisa Irwin home
9. Cadaver dog &#8216;hit&#8217; inside house in Lisa Irwin case
10. Search yields a 'hit' as some details emerge from inside Lisa Irwin &#8217;s house
11. Lisa Irwin 's parents' lawyers cancel media events
12. New KC lawyer chosen to help represent Baby Lisa&#8217;s parents
13. Mother of Lisa Irwin &#8217;s half-brother seeks custody
14. Parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin want vigils outside home to end

I bolded the headlines that I think were the most negative.

 

[hambirg]

There are many atrocities....my mother was 'adopted out' as a newborn because a government, the US government, determined that 'Indians' weren't suitable parents and 'Christians' made better parents. My father's mother, at age 4, was taken away from her tribal family, again by the US government, and sent to a 'Christian' family where she became nothing more than 'live-in' help. She didn't have much schooling but she was away from those 'heathen' Indians [according to those who placed her]. Both my mother and grandmother never saw their parents or family again.

The one thing that I learned from both of these women is compassion; they went through the pain and the sorrow but they had compassion for others. I have compassion for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin. I don't see, with what has been released, any evidence that says they are guilty. They have lost their daughter, in a matter that is not verifiable now. They are, in their way, doing what they have to do for their other children. They still are in contact with LE and there is still media.

I have compassion for them because it is something that has been impressed upon me from the time I was a small girl, by two women who weren't shown compassion by their government or in my grandmother's case, by the people who were supposed to care for her.

The very definition of compassion is to have sympathy for another's suffering. That's where you and I differ. You see them as victims and I see them as perpetrators.

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

I wanted to see how harshly the media has treated the Irwins so I decided to do a search for all Kansas City Star articles about the case. I made a list of all headlines that were even just slightly negative about the family, even if they were true.

The KC Star has published 97 articles about the case.

1. Prayers offered for missing infant and family; mother says police accused her
2. Police say parents of missing girl stop cooperating, though relative denies it
3. Police now interviewing parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin
4. KC police search backyard of missing infant’s home
5. Family of missing baby Lisa Irwin gets high-profile attorney
6. Mom tells TV of drinking the night Baby Lisa disappeared: family gets lawyer
7. Investigators executing search warrant at Irwin family home
8. Investigators spend almost 17 hours searching inside Lisa Irwin home
9. Cadaver dog ‘hit’ inside house in Lisa Irwin case
10. Search yields a 'hit' as some details emerge from inside Lisa Irwin ’s house
11. Lisa Irwin 's parents' lawyers cancel media events
12. New KC lawyer chosen to help represent Baby Lisa’s parents
13. Mother of Lisa Irwin ’s half-brother seeks custody
14. Parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin want vigils outside home to end

I bolded the headlines that I think were the most negative.

Is is true cadaver dog hit inside the house?
I found this today:
D'Andre Lane is charged with murder, even though his daughter's body has not been found
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...ts-in-search-for-missing-toddler-bianca-jones

 

[lil momma]

Is is true cadaver dog hit inside the house?
I found this today:
D'Andre Lane is charged with murder, even though his daughter's body has not been found
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...ts-in-search-for-missing-toddler-bianca-jones

Hello!

I heard it was true that a dog hit on the bedroom floor of DB's room. (one hit) I believe there is an article somewhere about it, i will see if i can find it later and post for you.

I think the difference is that with lil Bianca Jones case, is that there were two hits, i believe one in the home and one in the car. They just need to find her

Hope that helps some

Here is the link

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/cadaver-dog-'hits'-inside-home-of-missing-baby

ALL JMO

 

[BritsKate]

Hello!

I heard it was true that a dog hit on the bedroom floor of DB's room. (one hit) I believe there is an article somewhere about it, i will see if i can find it later and post for you.

I think the difference is that with lil Bianca Jones case, is that there were two hits, i believe one in the home and one in the car. They just need to find her

Hope that helps some

Here is the link

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/cadaver-dog-'hits'-inside-home-of-missing-baby

ALL JMO

BBM

One hit on the car seat and another inside Lane's home.

More than just that though - in little Bianca's case there are witnesses available to discredit the story fed to LE by D'Andre and were witness to abuse. It's a much, much stronger circumstantial case across the board imo. FWIW

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...ther-of-Bianca-Jones-to-appear-in-court-today

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

thanks lil mom and britkate for that info........ the question is
one hit in the house is not enough......????

 

[hambirg]

I do wish I lived in the USA, police still interested in my son´s case,TV and media also,,, but I´m living in Germany :-(
I ´ve contacted international INTERPOL more than once, they said I´ve to contact Interpol Germany, I did and all what they keep saying is " we can´t do anything, there´s no new evidence about your case", it is a damn vicious circle,none is doing anything and keep telling my son was dead!
greetings ! Heidi Stein

Ihre Geschichte bricht mir das Herz! Wenn ich Ihnen helfen kann, lass es mich wissen. Leider ist mein Deutsch Scheiße!

I have family there. Maybe they can help.

 

[Tilmylastbreath]

The one hit from the dog could be from anything (too many variables). Theres a thread on here about dogs and all that sort of info. Ask them, they'll tell you it coulda been where a poopy diaper landed a long time ago.

If the dog had several hits, i'd agree.

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

Ihre Geschichte bricht mir das Herz! Wenn ich Ihnen helfen kann, lass es mich wissen. Leider ist mein Deutsch Scheiße!

I have family there. Maybe they can help.

thank you so much ! your german is awesome!(much better than my english ;.))
I do need help by interpol Germany or local police to re-open the case , besides I´d like to have a current age progression of my son Dirk,because none will do it here
Grüsse aus Deutschland!!!!
Heidi Stein

 

[Tilmylastbreath]

Hi Heidi,
Hes beautiful...what happened? Do you have a website with updates or the story?

*hugs*

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

Hi Heidi,
Hes beautiful...what happened? Do you have a website with updates or the story?

*hugs*

thanks a lot, this is the links:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7814449#post7814449"]Germany GERMANY - Dirk Schiller, 3 years old, Harz GERMANY, 10 March 1979 - Page 7 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dirk-Schiller/135617496518853


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001299578371

 

[redheadedgal]

The one hit from the dog could be from anything (too many variables). Theres a thread on here about dogs and all that sort of info. Ask them, they'll tell you it coulda been where a poopy diaper landed a long time ago.

If the dog had several hits, i'd agree.

welcome to WS !!!

an FBI trained cadaver dog --a dog that was trained using the scent of cadavers at the world renowned tennessee body farm-- will not hit on poopy diapers. the dogs are called "cadaver dogs" not "poopy diaper and maybe toe nail clippings too dogs".

 

[norest4thewicked]

welcome to WS !!!

an FBI trained cadaver dog --a dog that was trained using the scent of cadavers at the world renowned tennessee body farm-- will not hit on poopy diapers. the dogs are called "cadaver dogs" not "poopy diaper and maybe toe nail clippings too dogs".

Thank you for once again verifying that. There are a lot of people out there who actually believe this.