Why not put Casey in the general population while in jail...??

[OneLostGrl]

No, Gaia, they don't want justice, they want revenge.

I agree. We live in a very sick society.

 

[tiredofthis]

No, Gaia, they don't want justice, they want revenge.

Clarify want you mean by "they" please.

 

[LI_Mom]

No, Gaia, they don't want justice, they want revenge.

What's so wrong with wanting revenge, anyway?

The Death Penalty is all about giving the families & society a sense of 'revenge'.... except we call it 'closure.'

 

[Bev]

Those who are calling for KC to be hurt in the general population would be "they". Look, TOT, I'm not trying to offend anyone, it really does amaze me and makes me curious that people still think in terms of an "eye for an eye".

 

[LI_Mom]

Wow! That Hispanic comment was rather offensive.

KC hasn't shown that she has issues with Hispanics. Which would give no lead that she chose the name as some sort of racist thing.

Where she lives, Hispanic names are just as common as any other name.

No, my point was that the Hispanic prisoners will probably take issue with her picking an Hispanic name.


How she OR her family feel about any group is irrelevant... what's important is the perception others might have.

 

[Gaia713]

Wow! That Hispanic comment was rather offensive.

KC hasn't shown that she has issues with Hispanics. Which would give no lead that she chose the name as some sort of racist thing.

Where she lives, Hispanic names are just as common as any other name.

Yet LC made it a point to tell all her friends how her mother hated Hispanics

 

[tiredofthis]

Those who are calling for KC to be hurt in the general population would be "they". Look, TOT, I'm not trying to offend anyone, it really does amaze me and makes me curious that people still think in terms of an "eye for an eye".

You're not offending anyone. I just wasn't sure what you meant by "they". I thought I knew, but wanted you to clarify. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Bev]

Revenge is very wrong, LI Mom. It is a cycle of injury, it is not justice.

 

[cleo612]

Bev,

I am curious.

Let's consider that Casey is the most likely party to have brought little Caylee to her sad and tragic demise. As it stands right now, there are no other potential suspects, so responsibility for this is all going to fall squarely on Casey's shoulders. Let's project ourselves into the future just a bit, and determine that a trial has been held and Casey has been found guilty of murdering that precious baby.

What type of punishment do YOU think she should receive? Do YOU think she deserves the death penalty? Do YOU think she should be imprisoned in a solitary cell where she is isolated until her sentence is fulfilled, or she dies, whichever comes first? Do YOU think she should be put into general population whereas she would have daily personal contact with other criminals? How do YOU see justice being doled out for this most heinous of crimes?

I am not asking these questions to be snarky--I am actually very interested in your responses. I have mixed feelings about what I think should be done to Casey.

If I put on my most moral hat, I would want to see her spend the rest of her life in prison, living in solitary confinement, reliving the moments that she took little Caylee's life, having to deal with her decomposing body, suffering through the nightmares that surely must be haunting her, and knowing that she killed the one good thing in this world that she has ever produced.

If she is in solitary confinement, she will be deprived of the one thing that she seemed most to thrive upon--attention from those around her.

She would be deprived of her adoring misguided fans, deprived of all human contact, deprived of being in the spotlight. From the stories that have been told, Casey lived every day embellishing her very ordinary life to that of some glamour girl with an awesome job, a cool education, an awesome family who was going to give her their own home, being generous to all those around her by paying for trips, buying food to fix their meals, and showering them with little gifts here and there (of course, she was only buying their attention).

Given her fantasy filled life that was full of friendships and acquaintances, dancing and partying till all hours of the night on a weekly basis, numerous sexual liaisons, not having to work because she was being supported by her co-dependent parents--I firmly believe that life in a solitary cell, without that attention would be more punishment to this horrible example of an egg donor than being tossed into general population.

If she is put into general population, she will have that audience of wayward thinking outcasts who will applaud the fact that she led law enforcement on such ridiculous and deceitful fantasies--this will surely embolden her and only prove to strengthen her already diabolical ego.

Now, if I take off my moral hat, I would say throw that disgusting WASTE of human flesh into general population with orders to every one of the other inmates that she is their's to do with what they will, but that they only 10 minutes in which to do it. I would then lead Casey to the death chamber where the chosen method of the ultimate punishment would be a faulty electric chair that may or may not do its intended task in a quick and clean manner. I would not remove her body from the chair until that piece of faulty equipment had completed its task--the final and ultimate breath spent from her lungs.

The only reprieve she would be given is if she would, IN ALL HONESTY, divulge the whereabouts of that tiny child's body, verifiable and located within one hour of disclosure.

Her sentence after any such disclosure?

I would put my moral hat back on, remove her from that faulty electric chair, and toss her into solitary confinement until the end of her sentence or her death, whicever comes first.

 

[Coley]

Coley! I did not give you my permission to use my pic!

I'm so sorry Dolly. Have you been upping the 'roids?

 

[Coley]

No, my point was that the Hispanic prisoners will probably take issue with her picking an Hispanic name.


How she OR her family feel about any group is irrelevant... what's important is the perception others might have.

I for one do not find it offensive. The hispanic community does take it offensive and they will retaliate because of the use of the name. Florida is heavily populated with hispanics and they do not like to be anyone scape goat especially in a missing childs case.

 

[Coley]

What's so wrong with wanting revenge, anyway?

The Death Penalty is all about giving the families & society a sense of 'revenge'.... except we call it 'closure.'

I call this KARMA. Dang, that lil ole thing of karma always comes back to bite you on the a$$.

 

[tiredofthis]

Bev,

I am curious.

Let's consider that Casey is the most likely party to have brought little Caylee to her sad and tragic demise. As it stands right now, there are no other potential suspects, so responsibility for this is all going to fall squarely on Casey's shoulders. Let's project ourselves into the future just a bit, and determine that a trial has been held and Casey has been found guilty of murdering that precious baby.

What type of punishment do YOU think she should receive? Do YOU think she deserves the death penalty? Do YOU think she should be imprisoned in a solitary cell where she is isolated until her sentence is fulfilled, or she dies, whichever comes first? Do YOU think she should be put into general population whereas she would have daily personal contact with other criminals? How do YOU see justice being doled out for this most heinous of crimes?

I am not asking these questions to be snarky--I am actually very interested in your responses. I have mixed feelings about what I think should be done to Casey.

If I put on my most moral hat, I would want to see her spend the rest of her life in prison, living in solitary confinement, reliving the moments that she took little Caylee's life, having to deal with her decomposing body, suffering through the nightmares that surely must be haunting her, and knowing that she killed the one good thing in this world that she has ever produced.

If she is in solitary confinement, she will be deprived of the one thing that she seemed most to thrive upon--attention from those around her.

She would be deprived of her adoring misguided fans, deprived of all human contact, deprived of being in the spotlight. From the stories that have been told, Casey lived every day embellishing her very ordinary life to that of some glamour girl with an awesome job, a cool education, an awesome family who was going to give her their own home, being generous to all those around her by paying for trips, buying food to fix their meals, and showering them with little gifts here and there (of course, she was only buying their attention).

Given her fantasy filled life that was full of friendships and acquaintances, dancing and partying till all hours of the night on a weekly basis, numerous sexual liaisons, not having to work because she was being supported by her co-dependent parents--I firmly believe that life in a solitary cell, without that attention would be more punishment to this horrible example of an egg donor than being tossed into general population.

If she is put into general population, she will have that audience of wayward thinking outcasts who will applaud the fact that she led law enforcement on such ridiculous and deceitful fantasies--this will surely embolden her and only prove to strengthen her already diabolical ego.

Now, if I take off my moral hat, I would say throw that disgusting WASTE of human flesh into general population with orders to every one of the other inmates that she is their's to do with what they will, but that they only 10 minutes in which to do it. I would then lead Casey to the death chamber where the chosen method of the ultimate punishment would be a faulty electric chair that may or may not do its intended task in a quick and clean manner. I would not remove her body from the chair until that piece of faulty equipment had completed its task--the final and ultimate breath spent from her lungs.

The only reprieve she would be given is if she would, IN ALL HONESTY, divulge the whereabouts of that tiny child's body, verifiable and located within one hour of disclosure.

Her sentence after any such disclosure?

I would put my moral hat back on, remove her from that faulty electric chair, and toss her into solitary confinement until the end of her sentence or her death, whicever comes first.

Excellent post!

 

[LI_Mom]

Revenge is very wrong, LI Mom. It is a cycle of injury, it is not justice.

I'm not saying it isn't BUT it's a very human & normal emotion.

When people encounter someone who has committed a very heinous crime, they almost always work through their feelings of anger & disgust by imagining the person will suffer like their victim did.

It restores our sense of balance in the world & helps us cope with the unfairness that we see.

As I said.... as long as it's only words... I think it's just normal human venting about a very horrific crime.

But I DO understand what you're saying & don't disagree with you.

 

[Coley]

Sorry, in my book a human being is a human being whether she's an adult or a child. I am really puzzled by this attitude because it affects every kind of relationship we have and individuals and as nations. I don't know if humans will ever be able to break the cycle.

KC a human? Other than her looking like one and breathing the same air humans breathe, I do not see any other characteristics of one.

Definition: Humans, or human beings, are bipedal primates belonging to the mammalian species sapiens (Latin: "wise man" or "knowing man") in the family Hominidae (the great apes). ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

Bold:
She is not wise or knowing of anything human.

MOO

 

[LI_Mom]

I for one do not find it offensive. The hispanic community does take it offensive and they will retaliate because of the use of the name. Florida is heavily populated with hispanics and they do not like to be anyone scape goat especially in a missing childs case.

Has there been an outcry by the Hispanic community?


We see it time & again, someone commits a horrible crime & then tells police the perp was some minority.... LE puts out a description of the imaginary racial profile & THAT community is insulted & feels persecuted. :furious::furious:

There's got to be at least some 'reason' why a person chooses the descriptions they do.

 

[MaryAnn]

Maybe they should give all of us mom"s 5 minutes with her.... just a thought

Yes, yes, please please. I would love 5 minutes with her. I think I can get her to talk. :furious:

 

[Coley]

Has there been an outcry by the Hispanic community?


We see it time & again, someone commits a horrible crime & then tells police the perp was some minority.... LE puts out a description of the imaginary racial profile & THAT community is insulted & feels persecuted. :furious::furious:

There's got to be at least some 'reason' why a person chooses the descriptions they do.

I bet they are pi$$ed off. Remember not only did she use ZFG it has also came to light that one of KC closest friends said she was not allowed in the home when cindy was home because she was hispanic. Which is probably a reason casey dates hispanics. She hates her mother! cindy is a racist!
i think cindy is so stuck into believing her daughter so she may obtain the relationship she always wanted with her but could never get!

 

[tiredofthis]

Yes, yes, please please. I would love 5 minutes with her. I think I can get her to talk. :furious:

There is a looooooong line of people who would like 5 minutes with her. Take a number. My number is 1,787,533. Do you think she will talk before I get up there? lol

 

[Bev]

Look, morally, I would hope that I would have the courage to forgive KCA for her crimes against society. I live by the philosophy that "there but for the grace of God go I" - my life isn't over yet and I don't know what will befall me or my children in the future. I would hope that if I did something wrong or my children did, that people would forgive me or my children. As human beings we are here to further our evolution and to promote the human condition for all people, whether we "like" them or "approve" of them or not. This kind of thinking that people who do these sorts of crimes are "monsters" is to lessen their humanity and to excuse us as human beings from recognizing that all human beings have to ability to hurt other human beings. They're not "monsters", they're not less than human, they are just like us and we're all capable of the most horrendous behavior. People who are broken human beings, who have personality disorders, mental illnesses (and anyone who commits crimes is on some level mentally ill, because the evolutionary inclination is cooperation and interdependence) need to be treated compassionately and with empathy. That is why we no longer lock up the mentally ill in dungeons or towers or burn them at the stake - we've learned that all behavior is subject to our combination of nurture/nature and we are the product of our environments and genetic codes.

Unfortunately, we live in a society that chooses not to treat the mentally ill, we choose for many reasons to warehouse them and to isolate them from society. In some cases people are so broken that they simply cannot be restored to human society and must live apart from it. That is the choice we made as a society and as a member of that society I am as obliged as the next person to accept the will of the majority. That doesn't mean however, that I give up my humanity or compassion for those broken people. Since we have chosen to warehouse them, then the least we can do is treat them humanely, to afford them the right to appeal to society for judgement and to be safe while in the warehouses of our society. We are morally obligated to do so.

I don't want anyone tortured, beaten, or in anyway to have their dignity destroyed by society - and we are society - no one ever learns from that and if we think they are mentally ill, then they no doubt won't learn from it. I don't take pleasure from others getting their just desserts or being hurt because they might have hurt someone. To wish for that imo, makes us as sick and mentally ill as the people whom we've warehoused and proves my point that we're all capable of cruelty and the infliction of misery upon each other.