Why? What was the motive?

[JMO8778]

I was living in Texas, not in the same area, but school was already out for the summer. So yes, what you said makes sense. I also thought this.

thx,I need to do more research on the whole case,but rightoffhand,do you know how old Drake was,and was this the first summer she'd have had to be home w/ all 3 of them? thx.

 

[whitywendy]

thx,I need to do more research on the whole case,but rightoffhand,do you know how old Drake was,and was this the first summer she'd have had to be home w/ all 3 of them? thx.

Drake was apx. 8 months old. He was born in the middle of October 95. So this would of been the first summer with all three boys. AND from what I have read, they had just hired (within the same week of the murders) someone to help Darlie. VERY INTERESTING.. :woohoo:

 

[whitywendy]

good thoughts,thx all.
I was wondering if anyone knows when school got out that yr? Was it already out, or just about to be? B/c I'm thinking maybe Darlie did this early in the summer so she wouldn't have to be 'stuck' at home (she had no car,right?) for the summer w/ 3 kids.I'm just wondering if that could be the catalyst for her doing it at that time.Did the kids go to preschool? I'm assuming the 5 yo would have started Kindergarten that fall,and the 6 yo would go on to 1st grade.

I have not read anywhere that she had Damon in preschool or the baby in any type of daycare. I believe that was the reason she wasn't working anymore, to take care of the babies. Damon had just turned 5 in February of that year so he wasn't in kindergarten yet. Wow, I never realized that beautiful little boy never even got to go to kindergarten. That brings tears to my eyes.

I believe Devon was the only one who was in school or attended a school but of course he was out for the summer .

 

[JMO8778]

Drake was apx. 8 months old. He was born in the middle of October 95. So this would of been the first summer with all three boys. AND from what I have read, they had just hired (within the same week of the murders) someone to help Darlie. VERY INTERESTING.. :woohoo:

indeed,esp. considering they'd said they were short on money.

 

[JMO8778]

I have not read anywhere that she had Damon in preschool or the baby in any type of daycare. I believe that was the reason she wasn't working anymore, to take care of the babies. Damon had just turned 5 in February of that year so he wasn't in kindergarten yet. Wow, I never realized that beautiful little boy never even got to go to kindergarten. That brings tears to my eyes.

I believe Devon was the only one who was in school or attended a school but of course he was out for the summer .

ok,thx,that sure is sad,indeed.

 

[whitywendy]

indeed,esp. considering they'd said they were short on money.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[JMO8778]

was Darrin ever offered any kind of immunity for testifying against Darlie? he appears to have something to hide,IMO,and if it's just fear,it looks like they could have at least tried.

 

[CyberLaw]

Even if given immunity I do not feel that Darin would turn on Darlie. I just don`t see it happening. Also there is something called spousal privilege and I am sure that he knows this. Darin may not get immunity for everything, they would have to know his part in the murders. If he covered up or helped Darlie in anyway, I very much doubt that he would be given full immunity.


There has to be an incentive for him to testify, and there was none nor is there any to date.


Wow when I read the Jeff McD case I am astounded how much it mirrors Darliies. Like the article that I was reading said: Follow the evidence trail.

 

[JMO8778]

Thanks,Cyber,yes,it sure is a lot like the JM case..weight loss meds,spouse snaps and kills children,blames it all an in 'intruder'.only difference is the spouse wasn't killed.I have to wonder if the reason being was she couldn't overpower him.I do think they got into some kind of psychical confrontation,and that's when she got most of the bruises,although some may have been from scuffling w/ the boys(?) if that happened.personally I don't think they ever knew what was coming nor ever had a chance.
I do think Darrin is hiding something and perhaps both will talk some now that Darlie is trying to put it all on him.

 

[whitywendy]

Thanks,Cyber,yes,it sure is a lot like the JM case..weight loss meds,spouse snaps and kills children,blames it all an in 'intruder'.only difference is the spouse wasn't killed.I have to wonder if the reason being was she couldn't overpower him.I do think they got into some kind of psychical confrontation,and that's when she got most of the bruises,although some may have been from scuffling w/ the boys(?) if that happened.personally I don't think they ever knew what was coming nor ever had a chance.
I do think Darrin is hiding something and perhaps both will talk some now that Darlie is trying to put it all on him.

I think the reason Darin was spared was because he was the money maker. Darlie needed him. No Darin no money.

I was watching the A&E special on Darlie. They were showing the interview that Darin and Darlie did after the birthday celebration at the the boys grave. Anyhow, I noticed something I had never paid attention to before. Darlie is talking about how Devon and Damon are up in heaven and so forth. She goes on to say that Devon, with her eyes looking straight in the camera and Damon, her eyes shoot down and stay looking down the entire length of her statement about how they would want them to be happy. IMO the reason she had no problem looking at the camera when she said Devon was because he did not know who stabbed him, but if the State's 2nd attack is true on Damon, it makes sense to me that she knew Damon knew it was her that had stabbed him.

 

[JMO8778]

I think the reason Darin was spared was because he was the money maker. Darlie needed him. No Darin no money.

I was watching the A&E special on Darlie. They were showing the interview that Darin and Darlie did after the birthday celebration at the the boys grave. Anyhow, I noticed something I had never paid attention to before. Darlie is talking about how Devon and Damon are up in heaven and so forth. She goes on to say that Devon, with her eyes looking straight in the camera and Damon, her eyes shoot down and stay looking down the entire length of her statement about how they would want them to be happy. IMO the reason she had no problem looking at the camera when she said Devon was because he did not know who stabbed him, but if the State's 2nd attack is true on Damon, it makes sense to me that she knew Damon knew it was her that had stabbed him.

thx,that makes sense.I haven't seen that interview.
does anyone think Drake was only spared b/c he was upstairs? B/c I wonder about that,since it seems that if she'd planned to kill him too,that she'd have wanted him downstairs with her that night.
My thought is that since she'd talked about having a girl,that she spared Drake so she'd have a boy and a girl(eventually),after killing the 2 older boys,and leave it at that.IOW-the 'perfect' family in her eyes ..more money for her with the oldest 2 out of the way,and have no more kids after that.

 

[CyberLaw]

I feel the bruises the self inflicted to lend more substance to the story.

Just like JM, she need to have people see her as the victim, part of the crime to lend credence to her story.

As in JM, the evidence convicted Darlie, evidence often conflicts with fabricated stories. Gee what a surprise............

I very much doubt a fingerprint is going to get Darlie a new trial. There is just not enough evidence and I know Texas is loathe to grant new trials for Death row inmates nor mercy. When I heard that I look forward to the day Darlie is executed. Her whole clan and cult can show up. Darlie again will go to her death never admitting the truth. To the very end..........and then her cult and clan can say: Poor women, an innocent women was put death, yada, yada, yada

 

[JMO8778]

Cyber,do you think she will ever be put to death? b/c it seems in some cases,depression/mental status eventually leads to not actually getting the death sentence,in the long run.but I think Tx is pretty tough about that?

 

[CyberLaw]

Well as you know I am from Canada and are not that well versed in the Death Penalty or Texas. But I do know that Texas is T for tough. There has not been a mercy granted in Texas for a death row inmate since the 1970 and Texas leads the US in executions. They don't say: Don't mess with Texas for no reason. They seem to be serious about their executions.

But on the other hand Karla Faye Tucker was the first women to die by execution in Texas since 1863. I do feel that just because a women and mother committed a terrible crime, she should not be spared the death penalty as crime and murder is an equal gender crime.

Karla even "turned" to god, she did have her critics, some felt it was real others felt it was a ploy in an attempt at mercy. In the end, Karla like Darlie will answer to a higher power for what they did.

But I do know that Darlie does not deserve any Mercy, and I doubt pressure will result in a reversal of the death penalty especially in TEXAS.

 

[whitywendy]

Cyber,do you think she will ever be put to death? b/c it seems in some cases,depression/mental status eventually leads to not actually getting the death sentence,in the long run.but I think Tx is pretty tough about that?

IMO, if Texas had "mercy" then they would have "stayed" Karla Faye Tucker's execution. From what I have read, she found God (I do believe this to be true). She had become a sincere and caring woman. BUT that didn't change the fact that she brutally murdered two people. Allot of people do some really crazy things when they are on drugs that they would never do when they are SOBER. She admitted that her lifestyle of drugs and partying led her to her fateful mistake. I believe God did forgive her and she accepted her fate with compassion.

Now, Darlie, IMO will never admit that she killed those children (I just love how she uses these exact words in her trial testimony). I have read from other people post's that Darlie had detached herself from the boys long before the murders. I haven't read any books as of yet, but apparently this detachment was described in one of them.

 

[whitywendy]

Well as you know I am from Canada and are not that well versed in the Death Penalty or Texas. But I do know that Texas is T for tough. There has not been a mercy granted in Texas for a death row inmate since the 1970 and Texas leads the US in executions. They don't say: Don't mess with Texas for no reason. They seem to be serious about their executions.

But on the other hand Karla Faye Tucker was the first women to die by execution in Texas since 1863. I do feel that just because a women and mother committed a terrible crime, she should not be spared the death penalty as crime and murder is an equal gender crime.

Karla even "turned" to god, she did have her critics, some felt it was real others felt it was a ploy in an attempt at mercy. In the end, Karla like Darlie will answer to a higher power for what they did.

But I do know that Darlie does not deserve any Mercy, and I doubt pressure will result in a reversal of the death penalty especially in TEXAS.

I lived in Texas for several years and loved it. Texas IMO is it's own country right here in the US. Texas don't put up with crap. But that is what I love about the state.

 

[CyberLaw]

As long as the boys served a purpose to Darlie in some way shape or form in her own mind the boys were treated O.K. Not that she was not detached from them then, she just used them to elevate herself in her own mind.

But when the reality hit, that they were seen as a "burden" and a drain on money, well they no longer "enriched" Darlie she saw them as the problem, the source of misery, of work, of money being spent. Well they were no longer useful to her and she had no problem killing them as they were and always were seen as "objects" to her.

She played the part, but in reality she no did not love those boys from day one. Because Darlie only see the world from Darlie perspective, sees it through her own needs, she is the most important person in the world and no one else matters.

I agree with Cami, Darlie has a profound character defect and disturbance also called Personality Disorders. Her whole life had no substance, it was all superficial, all looks, all appearances that is until real life invaded her fantasy of what her life should be like, what she felt she deserved, and being a stay a home Mom, with three kids, no car, income decreasing, no skills, and losing her looks was not the life that Darlie thought she deserved.

 

[whitywendy]

As long as the boys served a purpose to Darlie in some way shape or form in her own mind the boys were treated O.K. Not that she was not detached from them then, she just used them to elevate herself in her own mind.

But when the reality hit, that they were seen as a "burden" and a drain on money, well they no longer "enriched" Darlie she saw them as the problem, the source of misery, of work, of money being spent. Well they were no longer useful to her and she had no problem killing them as they were and always were seen as "objects" to her.

She played the part, but in reality she no did not love those boys from day one. Because Darlie only see the world from Darlie perspective, sees it through her own needs, she is the most important person in the world and no one else matters.

I agree with Cami, Darlie has a profound character defect and disturbance also called Personality Disorders. Her whole life had no substance, it was all superficial, all looks, all appearances that is until real life invaded her fantasy of what her life should be like, what she felt she deserved, and being a stay a home Mom, with three kids, no car, income decreasing, no skills, and losing her looks was not the life that Darlie thought she deserved.

Hmmmmm. It is still hard for me to understand how a mother could not love her children. I am not saying that I don't believe it is possible, just that it is hard for me to fathom.

I really liked what you say in regards to her life not having any substance. I never thought about it like that before.

 

[Dena]

Hmmmmm. It is still hard for me to understand how a mother could not love her children. I am not saying that I don't believe it is possible, just that it is hard for me to fathom.

I really liked what you say in regards to her life not having any substance. I never thought about it like that before.

I think it's hard for any loving mother to see, but it does happen. It's the fact that children are not thought to be of their being, but as posessions. When the children are bad, then Darlie is bad. When the children are good, then Darlie is good. It has always been about her, not her children.
Mothers kill their children a lot, they don't love them. I learned a long time ago that love should not hurt. If you can take the life away from your children, then you do not love them.

 

[whitywendy]

I think it's hard for any loving mother to see, but it does happen. It's the fact that children are not thought to be of their being, but as posessions. When the children are bad, then Darlie is bad. When the children are good, then Darlie is good. It has always been about her, not her children.
Mothers kill their children a lot, they don't love them. I learned a long time ago that love should not hurt. If you can take the life away from your children, then you do not love them.

Thanks Dena, that was a very profound statement.

When you say possessions, you mean like a car. If you drive a cool sporty car then of course you feel hot. But if you are driving around in a Yugo then you don't feel so hot . Bad comparison but I am starting to understand now.