GUILTY WI - 14yo brandishes knife, sexually assaults elderly woman at public library, Waukesha, 30 Nov 2021

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WAUKESHA — A 14-year-old suspected of threatening an 87-year-old woman with a knife at the Waukesha Public Library, then subsequently sexually assaulting her, has had charges referred by the Waukesha Police Department to the Waukesha County District Attorney’s Office.

According to a statement from Waukesha Police Department Capt. Dan Baumann, a referral is being made to the courts for the case to be waived to adult court.

Baumann said police responded to the library on Tuesday, Nov. 30 at 1:32 p.m. Waukesha Police met with the 87-year-old woman at the book drop at the Waukesha Public Library who stated she was “robbed and someone took her car.” Police later found out that the 14-year-old had used a knife to steal the victim’s vehicle and forced the victim inside the vehicle and sexually assaulted the victim.

14-year-old suspected of sexual assault of 87-year-old woman
 
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What a terrible crime!

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How awful and traumatic.. I feel so sorry for the victim. I hope she is surrounded by a loving family and support system.

(MOO of course. )
 
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That's one depraved, morally bankrupt 14 year old to commit a crime like this. Add on the victim is 87 years old? 87!!!

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Lord, take care of this woman who has gotten through 87 years of life. May she have loved ones to help her through this.

Man, I hope he didn't take her freedom as well. Still getting around on her own. Running errands herself. Hoping she's feisty enough to not be afraid to leave her home.

This kid is a danger to society.
 
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That's one depraved, morally bankrupt 14 year old to commit a crime like this. Add on the victim is 87 years old? 87!!!

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Lord, take care of this woman who has gotten through 87 years of life. May she have loved ones to help her through this.

Man, I hope he didn't take her freedom as well. Still getting around on her own. Running errands herself. Hoping she's feisty enough to not be afraid to leave her home.

This kid is a danger to society.
You summed it up perfectly. This kid needs to be locked away for a long, long time. The fact that he did this to an 87 year old woman at FOURTEEN tells me that he is very likely to reoffend if released. The sheer violence and depravity of this crime deserve at least adult court and charges and at most the max sentence possible.
 
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what on earth!!!!!? Oh my, horrible. This is a very triggery story that I won't likely follow.

My then 70 year old MIL was victimized by a teen burglar who SA'd her during the robbery. That was 5 or 6 years back. She has never recovered and remains traumatized to this day. PTSD, insomnia (she was awakened in the wee predawn hours being attacked), anxiety, to this day.

My prayers for this poor lady. :(
 
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I'd never even heard of Waukesha in my life before...now in the past 2 months there's been a car purposefully driven into a crowd killing people and now this!

What's going on there?
 
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I'd never even heard of Waukesha in my life before...now in the past 2 months there's been a car purposefully driven into a crowd killing people and now this!

What's going on there?
I grew up there so here’s a bit of perspective. Same town that had the slender man stabbing a few years back. It hasn’t been a safe place to live for years. There are pretty significant drug related issues that have created a culture of parents not really parenting their kids or caring what kind of horrific behavior they engage with. I am in my late 20’s and cannot count on two hands the amount of times I’ve personally dealt with gang related violence and friends’ drug overdoses in my hometown. There is a population of people who care about others here, but it’s very hard for them to care if the people involved aren’t exactly in their demographic or immediate community unless it’s a mass tragedy - and this has been exacerbated by the city getting more diverse over the last 15-20 years. As someone who’s biracial and lived in a “not as good” neighborhood there before getting out for good recently, I can safely say that most of the problems here are exacerbated by issues of race, class and a school system/police department that is not culturally competent and caters its services to the population that lived here 20+ years ago rather than the population that’s currently living here.
 
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Waukesha police: Sexual assault, armed robbery outside library

The suspect was also a School District of Waukesha student but withdrew following the incident.

Deputy Superintendent Joe Koch said the district learned about the carjacking later that same day but learned of the assault days later.

"We didn’t have a whole lot of information at that time," said Koch. "I have four children myself, I can empathize with the concern in the community, absolutely. And the near proximity to a school. It’s nothing we take lightly. Our role in that situation was to lock our school down, keep our kids safe, which is what we did."

Stacy Keene, a school district parent, wishes she had learned about it earlier.

"I don’t even have words for how disgusting it is," Keene said. "I couldn’t believe that the police department did not warn the community about this."
 
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What on earth is in the water, that some people in Wisconsin may be drinking? The depravity of ANYONE, to commit this kind of targeted act is mind blowing. She is 87 !!!
 
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What on earth is in the water, that some people in Wisconsin may be drinking? The depravity of ANYONE, to commit this kind of targeted act is mind blowing. She is 87 !!!
I will never understand crimes against the elderly, especially those of this magnitude. When did "respect your elders" go away?
 
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Johnson released the following statement after the incident:

“This afternoon, I learned of an incident that occurred in Waukesha County on November 30 where a member of my extended family is accused of a horrific crime. I am saddened and troubled by this news. First and foremost, my heartfelt prayers go out to the victim and her family. No one should ever have to deal with what she is going through. I hope and pray for her full healing and recovery.

If what is alleged is found to be true, the accused should absolutely be held accountable for these actions. No family deserves to endure what this family and this victim are going through, and I am praying for healing and recovery for all concerned.”
 
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I'd never even heard of Waukesha in my life before...now in the past 2 months there's been a car purposefully driven into a crowd killing people and now this!

What's going on there?

There were riots there in summer of 2020. It's been a hotbed of activity. I don't know all the details or why. I do personally know someone who works in the general area. They were unable to work due to the rioting and/or threats of violence for several days in 2020. Management told them not to report to work and to avoid the area.
 
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There were riots there in summer of 2020. It's been a hotbed of activity. I don't know all the details or why. I do personally know someone who works in the general area. They were unable to work due to the rioting and/or threats of violence for several days in 2020. Management told them not to report to work and to avoid the area.
That’s Kenosha. Different town.
 
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That’s Kenosha. Different town.

Kenosha is Wisconsin too? Jeez.
Maybe Wisconsin is just catching up with lather parts of the US for crime. It's growing up too fast?
 
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Kenosha is Wisconsin too? Jeez.
Maybe Wisconsin is just catching up with lather parts of the US for crime. It's growing up too fast?
Nah. It's been like this for years. People have gotten more brazen about things so they are making the news more. We had Gein, Dahmer, etc... you forget all the depravity that happens here because Milwaukee is such a small city and most of the really violent crime seems to be centered there or near there.
 
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That’s Kenosha. Different town.

My friend works in Waukesha not Kenosha. The major rioting was in Kenosha, but my friend couldn't work for several days in Waukesha bc of violence, threat of violence, and property damage. That was sometime in late spring or summer of 2020. Although she may have overstated the situation some. She was pretty afraid.

I'm glad you relocated. I hope you found a new locale where you feel safe and supported.

Regarding this case though, I'm absolutely beside myself over the complete lack of respect. It wasn't enough to steal her car, to brandish a weapon. He had to go and rape an 87 year-old woman?! Sexual assault is disgusting across the board, but this precious lady is someone's great grandma. When you stop and think about that, I mean, come on!! How does this 14 year old find that behavior acceptable? I guess what I'd like to ask him is, "What did you tell yourself to make that okay?" It's nauseating.

On the other hand, I believe in redemption. I don't know how you come back from this crime, but I do believe it's possible. Maybe it's not probable, but I have to believe it's possible.

I just pray that she makes a full recovery and is able to continue living independently. I can't even imagine her trauma. Actually, what I really can't imagine is being her child or grandchild and dealing with the fury I would feel. I don't believe in retribution, but man would that ever be challenged if this were my grandma. At 87, she's earned every ounce of respect one human can possibly show another.

Sometimes I just have to take a break from true crime. It's ugly everywhere you look. Sometimes I just have to take a break or it can feel hopeless. I really don't know how LE spend 20-30+ years on the job. I don't think they get nearly the credit or respect they deserve. AMOO
 
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Regarding this case though, I'm absolutely beside myself over the complete lack of respect. It wasn't enough to steal her car, to brandish a weapon. He had to go and rape an 87 year-old woman?! Sexual assault is disgusting across the board, but this precious lady is someone's great grandma. When you stop and think about that, I mean, come on!! How does this 14 year old find that behavior acceptable? I guess what I'd like to ask him is, "What did you tell yourself to make that okay?" It's nauseating.
SBBM. I wonder if this was some kind of "glory crime" if it was gang related like I am thinking it may be. When I was in high school I remember a lot of these dudes doing like initiation crimes that were either very public or very violent - one I remember vividly was a guy beating the s#!t out of a special needs kid at the homecoming pep rally sophomore year, and the school called it a "fight" because the kid getting beat up threw like two punches to defend himself. Knowing that my alma mater is the school this kid likely went to, large fights are pretty commonplace (and happened multiple times a week when I went there) so if this was for attention from a gang, he definitely would have had to do something more brazen.
 
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the young man (BARELY 19) who attacked my MIL lived within a block of her, with his elderly, apparently strict, grandmother. His own mother was less than motherly and he had bounced most of his life from auntie to grandma and back. The young man was responsible for the SA and burglary of 5 different women, all but 1 of whom was elderly and all were SA'd during the break-ins. This all took place in the space of two weeks.

I have always believed that young man selected his victims because he had serious rage towards his own grandmother.
 
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This is not in response to any specific comment or poster. It's just a general comment as I think about this crime.

I find no comfort in the potential "why" he did this. He's the nephew of a mayoral candidate. That seems to indicate at least some possibility for connections. Privilege is a word that I'd just as soon strike from the English language. But in modern parlance, it's at least possible that this youth was privileged beyond that of his average fellow classmate.

I used to teach in a pretty violent high school, with one set of books for the whole school. Textbooks had to remain in the classroom for the next period class, and most students didn't have access to technology except at the library. It was challenging for all involved.

My first day, my classroom was closed as I returned from lunch. Other students and staff occupied it during my "down" time, and a fight had occurred between two boys. They left the classroom looking like a battlefield. I don't know how so much bloodlust and blood loss didn't lead to loss of life that day. I had seen fights, both as a student and a teacher, but nothing was this level of viciousness.

Over my several years there, I saw students with horrific childhoods and beyond difficult circumstances show uncommon grace and kindness to others. I was humbled by their respect for self and others, their dedication and commitment to education, and their will to rise above their circumstances. The vast majority of them did.

I didn't grow up with much extra, but I never went to bed hungry. Often, we didn't have the food maybe we would have liked to have had, and we were on a very tight budget, but we never went hungry. This was my first exposure to food insecurity in mass and to all of the things that come along with gangs, economic depression, absent parent(s), severe, widespread substance abuse...

I also saw another set of students, some had equally horrific childhoods as the first set, but many did not, who seemed determined to choose a different path. It seemed no matter how many opportunities given, no matter how much energy and dedication was spent on supporting and redirecting them, they were determined to go down a different path. Most of them had very involved Mothers. (Thank God for Mothers!) Some had both parents very involved and concerned. Some even had multiple generations of family there to support them, something I and most of my students would have given anything to have.

I can't truly capture the emotion of a parent teacher conference night in such a district. It was heart wrenching to look into the eyes of a weary but invested mother, father, aunt, uncle, guardian, foster parent-whichever the case may be- as they tear up and look at you with pleading eyes, desperate for help to somehow right their child's future before that child gets fully beyond the reach of help.

As I meandered through various educational systems over 12 years of teaching, I saw this play out in schools that were 98% black, 90% white, and every manner of racial diversity imaginable. I worked for administrators who were white, black, biracial. For the most part, the majority of teachers and administrators reflected the composition of each school.

And no matter where I was, there were 2 groups of students. I can't explain why, and I'm less capable of offering ideas how to fix it. Does it speak to good versus evil? Is it part of the human condition? I don't know.

I just know that some people, given the exact same set of circumstances, will choose to go one way, a kind and gentle way, and others will choose to go another.
 

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