GUILTY WI - Amara, 11, Sophie, 8, Cecilia Schaffhausen, 5, slain, River Falls, 10 July 2012

  • #141
bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 1m
Dr says no evidence of severe mental illness #Schaffhausen.

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 55s
However, Dr says #Schaffhausen has major depression

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 46s
Psychiatrist: Schaffhausen suffered from major depressive disorder but he was not legally insane at time of killings

Pam Louwagie ‏@pamlouwagie 1m
He thought Cecilia was dead, but later heard her cry. Other girls came in from outside and he cut throats, Doc testifies Schaffhausen said.

Steve Tellier KSTP ‏@Steve_Tellier 3m
Court appointed medical expert tells jury he does not believe Schaffhausen was insane at time of crimes.
 
  • #142
In front, Cecelia; on left, Sophie; on right, Amara.

schauffhausensisters.jpg



http://www.riverfallsjournal.com/event/image/id/18556/headline/Schauffhausen sisters/
 
  • #143
Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 11m
#Schaffhausen jury excused for 15 minute break. Trial will resume at 2:05.

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 15m
#Schaffhausen trial is now livestreaming on http://StarTribune.com .
 
  • #144
KARE 11 ‏@kare11 2m
Dr. Ralph Baker continues his testimony in the Aaron Schaffhausen insanity trial.

Pam Louwagie ‏@pamlouwagie 1m
Several days before he killed his daughters, Schaffhausen had serious thoughts of killing himself, doctor testifies Schaffhausen told him.

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 47s
Psychiatrist is not beholden to either defense or prosecution--was chosen by court to determine #Schaffhausen's mental capabilities.

Rob Olson ‏@RobOlsonFOX9 52s
Psychiatrist, under questioning from prosecution, testifies Schaffhausen was legally sane at time of murders. Knew right from wrong.

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 1m
Psychiatrist: People in a dissociative state often can't remember their actions. #Schaffhausen does remember
 
  • #145
iver Falls Journal ‏@riverfallsj 6m
#news Schaffhausen witness was collared with two knives near courtroom http://bit.ly/16JzAmG
 
  • #146
Whoa, more to this still...

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/...o-worker-charged-with-making-threats-at-trial

According to the criminal complaint, Joe Rollag told a deputy at the government center that he needed to talk to Schaffhausen's defense attorney, John Kucinski, or "bad things would happen."

The deputy asked Rollag to speak with him in a conference room. He offered to pass along a note to Kucinski, according to the complaint. Rollag responded by opening a black notebook with a knife clipped on the inside, the deputy said.

The deputy told Rollag that knives were not allowed in the building. More knives were found in Rollag's car, according to the complaint.
 
  • #147
Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 3m
Dr. Baker is excused from the stand in the #Schaffhausen trial.
 
  • #148
On Tuesday the final witness for the defense is expected to testify. They are expected to call their own medical expert to the stand.

The expert is trying to show Aaron Schaffhausen was in a "dissociative state" at the time of the crimes. It’s expected they will have a much different analysis of Aaron Schaffhausen's mental state than the court appointed medical expert who testified Monday.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s2991408.shtml
 
  • #149
KARE 11 ‏@kare11 5m
#Schaffhausen trial streaming live now on http://kare11.com

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 6m
Dr. J. Reid Meloy, defense hired psychologist, taking stand. #Schaffhausen trial.

Kate Renner ‏@rennerKSTP 1m
Court Appointed Psychiatrist testified yesterday, deemed #Schaffhausen not insane. Defense Appointed Psychologist testifying today, insane

Star Tribune ‏@StarTribune 9m
Livestreaming today, in about an hour.

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 5m
Defense doc charges $400/hr for services. Will cap it $25k for #Schaffhausen case.

Steve Tellier KSTP ‏@Steve_Tellier 9m
Defense medical expert testifies that Schaffhausen was insane at time he murdered 3 daughters. Says he had "major depression."

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 10m
As a result of depression doc says #Schaffhausen lacked substantial capacity to conform his conduct to the standards of law.

Rob Olson ‏@RobOlsonFOX9 10m
Schaffhausen trial: defense medical expert says Aaron's major depression made him unable to conform to law, i.e. not sane at time of crime.

KARE 11 ‏@kare11 11m
RT @bouaKARE Doc says #Schaffhausen had a mental disease at time of killing, had major depression.

Pam Louwagie ‏@pamlouwagie 11m
Meloy testifies that Schaffhausen had a mental disease or defect -- major depression -- and lacked substantial capacity to control conduct

KSTP Breaking News ‏@KSTPbrk 5m
RT @steve_tellier: Defense medical expert: Schaffhausen "would cry easily, was volatile, angry, would threaten, he was obsessed with...

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 6m
Defense's psychologist: narcissism evident in Schaffhausen by his indifference at times to ex-wife and kids

Pam Louwagie ‏@pamlouwagie 6m
Schaffhausen also had dependence on Jessica, Meloy says.

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 9m
Defense's psychologist: Schaffhausen was dependent on ex-wife, she was like his mother in many respects

Pam Louwagie ‏@pamlouwagie 10m
Lots of people have depression, though, Meloy says. Schaffhausen's personality traits affected his actions, he says.

Rob Olson ‏@RobOlsonFOX9 11m
Schaffhausen Dr: "This is a complicated individual." Says Aaron entered into an "abysmal tunnel, which is very dark." Major depression.

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 1m
Doc, #Schaffhausen doesn't see people as a whole, this contributed to how he felt about his girls.
 
  • #150
Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 1m

Defense's psychologist: Schaffhausen has empathy deficits. No indication of him being psychotic, doesn't confuse fantasy with reality

IMO that's what's key to me. No psychosis, no legal insanity. :twocents: :cow:

ETA - Also, I'd be depressed too if I had to face the fact I was always so vicious to other people, wanting to kill them, threatening to kill them, particularly children!
 
  • #151
Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 1m
Defense's psychologist: history of impulsivity with Schaffhausen, he doesn't think before he acts

Reg Chapman ‏@RegChapman 2m
Dr. Meloy used computer assisted testing, four different test that point to Schaffhausen's mental disease he suffered from.

Steve Tellier KSTP ‏@Steve_Tellier 11m
Defense expert: Schaffhausen has major depression, personality disorder, borderline obsessive, impulsive, narcissistic, lacks empathy.
 
  • #152
KARE 11 ‏@kare11 3m
#Schaffhausen trial is back from break. Live feed available on http://www.kare11.com/
 
  • #153
Cheese, do you have a live feed now? Lost KARE...can't find another. Link?
 
  • #154
Cheese, do you have a live feed now? Lost KARE...can't find another. Link?

I'm on KARE. I don't know if startribune.com is up yet.
 
  • #155
Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 3m
Expert: #Schaffhausen didn't test even close to being a psychopath and has no anti-social personality disorder. Now talking about alcohol

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 3m
Defense's expert: Schaffhausen has "long history of alcoholism," but it doesn't appear it was a factor in killings

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 4m
Expert testifies #Schaffhausen did not have bonded relationship with father, intensely close with mother. That led to dependency on wife.

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 4m
Doc says #Schaffhausen told him he had 3 or 4 hours of homicidal thoughts before he saw his girls in April 2012 but didn't do anything.

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 1m
In June 2012 when most thought #Schaffhausen was getting better Doc says he was actually getting worse, having more homicidal thoughts.

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 3m
Defense's psychologist: Schaffhausen said he had no thoughts or emotions at time of killings

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 1m
Doc says start of #Schaffhausen murder happened as he walked thru home, saw that he was no longer part of that life, sadness consumed him.

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 5m
Defense's psychologist: Thinks the girls represented Schaffhausen's dependent link to ex-wife, killings were attempt to cut that link
 
  • #156
God bless these precious babies. All 3 of the little girls were completely aware of what he was doing to them.

He strangled Cecilia in her bedroom and just left her there, still alive, and suffering. He went downstairs, and heard Cecilia crying, got a knife from the butcher block in the kitchen. He went back upstairs to kill Cecilia, and found Sophie with Cecilia, trying to help her. He slit both their throats. Then Amara came in the room and saw what he was doing, and he slit her throat too.

God bless their mother Jessica, and help her somehow find comfort.

Sorry for being emotional. This is so awful.
 
  • #157
God bless these precious babies. All 3 of the little girls were completely aware of what he was doing to them.

He strangled Cecilia in her bedroom and just left her there, still alive, and suffering. He went downstairs, and heard Cecilia crying, got a knife from the butcher block in the kitchen. He went back upstairs to kill Cecilia, and found Sophie with Cecilia, trying to help her. He slit both their throats. Then Amara came in the room and saw what he was doing, and he slit her throat too.

God bless their mother Jessica, and help her somehow find comfort.

Sorry for being emotional. This is so awful.

Ita...Do you think, contrary to this Dr's testimony, that AS put them to bed, covered their necks with a t-shirt after washing the blood away, put their bloody clothes in the washer, because he wanted her to think everything was fine? Then, be horrified when she found that he had killed them? He, then, couldn't wait for that and called her to brag that he had killed them, so that he gained immediate gratification in getting her back? He is an evil monster, in every sense of the word, jmo.
 
  • #158
God bless these precious babies. All 3 of the little girls were completely aware of what he was doing to them.

He strangled Cecilia in her bedroom and just left her there, still alive, and suffering. He went downstairs, and heard Cecilia crying, got a knife from the butcher block in the kitchen. He went back upstairs to kill Cecilia, and found Sophie with Cecilia, trying to help her. He slit both their throats. Then Amara came in the room and saw what he was doing, and he slit her throat too.

God bless their mother Jessica, and help her somehow find comfort.

Sorry for being emotional. This is so awful.

It is awful. do not apologize for feeling - honoring feelings is the best way to heal.
 
  • #159
Star Tribune ‏@StarTribune 3m
#Schaffhausen insanity trial is set to resume any minute now. Watch testimony live at http://strib.mn/RJ29eD

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 1m
Cross-examination of #Schaffhausen defense psychologist Dr. Meloy is up next. Watch livestream at http://startribune.com

bouaxiong ‏@bouaKARE 4m
Prosecution grilling #Schaffhausen defense psychologist on why he couldn't conclude on insanity after his first interview with him.

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 3m
Prosecution drilling defense expert on all contradictions in his report on #Schaffhausen interview and the evidence.

Steve Tellier KSTP ‏@Steve_Tellier 14m
Prosecutor pointing out contradictions in Schaffhausen's statements to the defense expert, makes clear that not all depressed people kill.

Star Trib Multimedia ‏@StribMultimedia 31m
VIDEO: Psychologist testifies on behalf of #schaffhausen
http://strib.mn/10Kd7Uq

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 1m
Defense expert testifies other reasons for committing murder include money, anger, revenge. Said #Schaffhausen told him he wanted revenge

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 5m
#Schaffhausen told Dr. "everything was taken away from him." Prosecution pointing out anger, jealousy and other reasons for his actions.

Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 1m
Prosecution now going through list of every choice #Schaffhausen made in plotting and covering up the murder of his daughters.
 
  • #160
Shari L. Gross ‏@SGrossStrib 3m
#Schaffhausen trial is adjourned until tomorrow morning.

Rob Olson ‏@RobOlsonFOX9 37s
Schaffhausen testimony done for day. Defense unsure if they'll have more witnesses. Will announce tomorrow.

Andy Rathbun ‏@andyrathbun 1h
Aaron Schaffhausen's attorney said after today's hearing the defense team is trying to figure out whether Aaron will take the stand tomorrow
 

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