GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

[Tippy Lynn]

and they don't have the advantage of watching it frame by frame...stopping when they want etc.

Prior to watching it frame by frame I was completely torn and leaning more on not guilty.

 

[TTF14]

and they don't have the advantage of watching it frame by frame...stopping when they want etc.

Why not? Are they not allowed to touch the controls (if they have the video in the jury room) or not allowed to request someone to do so?

 

[mickey2942]

If we are confused then the jury is also confused. . we've seen the video more than them!

What is interesting, is that people can watch the same video, and have completely different interpretations of it. This phenomenon has been studied extensively.

10 Interpretations of the Same Animation Short

The story is in the eye of the beholder.

www.psychologytoday.com

What was particularly interesting to me, is how people who are different ages interpret the video differently. That may be part of the reason why the jury requests to view the video again, to identify what someone a different age saw...

 

[turaj]

This case can and should be used for years to come in sociology/psychology/criminology courses. It is a case of a perfect storm of how quickly a peaceful situation can turn so tragic in about 30 seconds.

I would make a wager that every summer on the apple river cops are called for altercations resulting from took much drugs and alcohol...routine every weekend out there. Used to be a fun family place but not so anymore. The mob mentality that takes over young boys and really result in tragedy. Fortunately few people go on the river and start slashing drunk teens...most of us would just head the other direction.

 

[turaj]

Why not? Are they not allowed to touch the controls (if they have the video in the jury room) or not allowed to request someone to do so?

they do not have the video in jury room..each time they want to see it they come to the courtroom and it is just in real time.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I would make a wager that every summer on the apple river cops are called for altercations resulting from took much drugs and alcohol...routine every weekend out there. Used to be a fun family place but not so anymore. The mob mentality that takes over young boys and really result in tragedy. Fortunately few people go on the river and start slashing drunk teens...most of us would just head the other direction.

To be fair, adults also have mob mentality. We also see it on SM and online all the time. It's a shame.

 

[turaj]

To be fair, adults also have mob mentality. We also see it on SM and online all the time. It's a shame.

you are right...not specific to teens. Sporting events can get out of control with lots of adults. It is getting really bad as there are many out there like Cockfield (I think he was the prime instigator) who get off on videoing this stuff rather than helping to diffuse it. AS he kept saying "It is for the culture"...what "culture" not sure.

 

[housewife]

If only the mob had allowed NM to look for the camera/ phone in peace, and not heckled and taunted him.

You don’t get to attack and slander someone just because they look and sound different than you. All my opinion.

If only everyone on the river had allowed Miu to touch them and move them around without consent.
It's everyone's else's fault!

Miu chose violence when his problematic behavior was no longer tolerated by others, and was told "no".

 

[Cindizzi]

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[ShadyLady]

Yes - you don't see the actually stabbing of Issac, but you can see Issac after he was stabbed in the background. It was prior to NM being pushed down into the water.

And I am convinced he stabbed Ryley maybe even before hitting Maddie. Maybe that is why Issac rushed Miu. In video went Ryley had her hand up in front of him, I saw his hand go toward her then when he arm came back it had the knife.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Verdict is in.

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[arielilane]

Nicolae Miu GUILTY on a lesser murder count -- 1st degree reckless homicide #BREAKING
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[ShadyLady]

Take a look at this. It wasn't until I watched this one where things became clear for me. After watching it it's hard to dispute the fact Issac was stabbed prior to NM being pushed down.

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I agree, Issac got stabbed second, you can see him bent over in the back ground.

 

[arielilane]

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[arielilane]

MOVEMENT happening in the #NicolaeMiu trial. No confirmation on what exactly is happening but reports are the attorneys and multiple deputies are in the courtroom. Per @PaulBlume_FOX9 the public/media have not been let in yet.

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[ShadyLady]

The fact that this is in parentheses speaks volumes.

She put her hands on HIM. This is the physical confrontation that started it all, to cause the issue between the Carlson/Miu party.
4 members of the Carlson group were stabbed. Only Isaac of the teens. Why is that? Cuz the Carlson young adults put themselves in the situation knowing Nothing. We can only guess how Isaac entered in but no court proceedings have alleged NM killed Isaac first.

I'm sorry..... but keep your hands to yourself! PERIOD. Full stop.

What gave Miu the right to rush the boys when they were in the tubes and grab the tubes and legs??? Would have scare me, what was his intent? THe boys kept shouting WALK AWAY over and over again...and what did he say? what did he say???

 

[arielilane]

@PaulBlume_FOX9

APPLE RIVER STABBING TRIAL: In total-- Nicolae Miu found guilty on lesser counts up & down the charges he was facing. So, he won't go to prison for life. But there will likely be prison consequences now. By my count, jury spent 5+ hours deliberating Miu's fate.

12:12 PM · Apr 11, 2024

 

[Tippy Lynn]

He was convicted of the following charges:

• First-degree reckless homicide of Isaac Schuman
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of A.J. Martin
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of Dante Carlson
• First-degree recklsely endangering safety of Tony Carlson
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of Ryhley Mattison
• Battery of Madison Coen

Apple River stabbing verdict: Nicolae Miu found guilty

Nicolae Miu was found guilty on six charges in his Apple River stabbing trial on Thursday, including first-degree reckless homicide in the killing of 17-year-old Isaac Schuman on July 30, 2022.

www.fox9.com

 

[bobbymkii]

Wow! I really thought that if he was found guilty he would be guilty of a lesser degree than 1D reckless!

Given his age and health, he's probably going to die in prison.

 

[Ismeon]

He was convicted of the following charges:

• First-degree reckless homicide of Isaac Schuman
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of A.J. Martin
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of Dante Carlson
• First-degree recklsely endangering safety of Tony Carlson
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety of Ryhley Mattison
• Battery of Madison Coen

Apple River stabbing verdict: Nicolae Miu found guilty

Nicolae Miu was found guilty on six charges in his Apple River stabbing trial on Thursday, including first-degree reckless homicide in the killing of 17-year-old Isaac Schuman on July 30, 2022.

www.fox9.com

Anyone know what the possible sentencing could be?