GUILTY WI - David Schuldes, 25, & Ellen Matheys, 24, murdered, Silver Cliff, July 1976 *Arrest in 2019*

[Betty P]

Vannieuwenhoven had apparently suffered a stroke in September, just a day after a psychologist had submitted a report concluding he was competent. Defense attorneys Travis Crowell and Lee Schuchart asked Morrison to allow a second examination to determine if that was the case.

At a hearing Oct. 12, Marinette County District Attorney DeShea Morrow told Morrison that an MRI showed Vannieuwenhoven had not had a stroke.

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Morrison then asked Vannieuwenhoven, who entered the courtroom in a wheelchair pushed by member of the Sheriff's Office, if he believed he was competent for trial.

“Yes,” he replied in a rough voice from underneath a mask.

As everyone was agreement, Morrison agreed, as well.

Morrison also finalized trial dates of July 19-30, which would be approximately 27 months after Vannieuwenhoven was charged.

Raymand Vannieuwenhoven, accused in 1976 double homicide, competent

Again, this guy has some similarities to Joseph DeAngelo, the GSK. Trying to appear frail and sick in his court appearances. No regrets, no sympathy for the victims, he's only sorry that he was caught.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The cold case was revived in 2019 when a DNA sample from evidence at the crime scene was determined to be from a particular family. A criminal complaint says that samples tested from Vannieuwenhoven's brothers weren't a match, but a a sample from him obtained from a licked envelope for a survey on police performance was a match.

Defense attorney Lee Schuchart asked for the DNA sample to be thrown out, arguing Vannieuwenhoven's Fourth Amendment rights were violated because police didn't have a warrant and lied to him about the purpose of the survey and envelope, WLUK-TV reported.

But District Attorney DeShea Morrow noted there was no coercion, Vannieuwenhoven voluntarily cooperated with the law enforcement and he lost any control after turning over the envelope.
Judge: DNA evidence in 1976 murders can be used

The judge ruled Friday that prosecutors can use DNA from an envelope Vannieuwenhoven licked despite defense arguments that it was obtained in violation of his constitutional rights.
Prosecutors allowed use of DNA evidence collected in phony police survey to charge man in 1976 murder - WTMJ


Judge James Morrison found that a warrant for Raymand Vannieuwenhoven’s DNA was not required and that the elderly Lakewood man gave consent when he turned over an envelope, which he sealed using his own saliva, to Oconto County Chief Deputy Darren Laskowski two years ago.

“I looked at this with great care,” Morrison said.

Vannieuwenhoven’s attorneys had sought to suppress introduction of the DNA evidence at his trial, set for the last weeks of July.
Raymand Vannieuwenhoven: DNA obtained through a ruse admissible

 

[Legally Bland]

Attorneys for the elderly Oconto County man accused of killing two campers nearly 45 years ago won’t be able to present evidence at his trial concerning another possible perpetrator of the murders, a judge has ruled.

Marinette County Circuit Court Judge James Morrison wrote that “remote possibility, speculation, a theory without a direct connection is not enough” to allow the jury to hear testimony about the suspect, according to the ruling filed late Friday.

Raymand Vannieuwenhoven is scheduled to be tried next month on two counts of first-degree murder. He is accused in the shooting deaths of a Green Bay couple, David Schuldes and Ellen Matheys, who were killed on July 9, 1976, at McClintock Park Campground in the town of Silver Cliff.

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[JerseyGirl]

Marinette judge won't delay Raymand Vannieuwenhoven homicide trial

Ten days have been scheduled for the trial, which is set to start on July 19.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trial starts Monday for man charged in 1976 Marinette County slayings

The trial is scheduled until July 30.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Testimony underway in Marinette County camper killings trial

 

[faithx]

Man found guilty in 1976 Marinette County camper killings

Raymand Vannieuwenhoven has been convicted of two counts of first-degree murder for the 1976 murders of David Schuldes and Ellen Matheys. Sentencing is scheduled for August 26.

 

[Betty P]

I'm so relieved to read this news. Raymond Vannieuwenhoven deserved to be locked up for the rest of his miserable life. He should have been jailed for this crime 45 years ago. Much credit is owed to the police department who continued to preserve the evidence until they could use DNA testing to track down the killer.

Very touching that the friends of the couple and witnesses from 45 years ago testified during the trial. David and Ellen had planned to be married later that year.

Testimony underway in Marinette County camper killings trial

#camperkillings fourth witness is a retired Marinette County forestry employee & police offer who was on the way to McClintock Park on the day of the double homicide “I was with my girlfriend and we drove up Parkway Road to McClintock Park when I heard a single rifle shot” @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021
#camperkillings fourth witness, Lance Temper states he was not there in official capacity, but a park caretaker stopped him & his girlfriend, “he mentioned there was a person laying by the women’s bathroom” @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021
#camperkillings Temper, “there was a man on the ground, there was blood dripping down his nose, his face and hands were blue” @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021
#camperkillings Temper says he felt Schuldes pulse and relayed that to the park caretaker, “my girlfriend and I waited and blocked the entrance off, waited for the sheriffs department and rescue squad, I thought it was a suspicious death” @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021
#camperkillings Temper says, “We walked the perimeter and didn’t see anyone else. There was one campsite with a purple Gremlin in it, we looked inside of it and didn’t see anything besides a woman’s purse. It took the rescue squad 30 to 45 minutes to get there” @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021
#camperkillings retired Marinette County chief deputy, Robert Kohlman says they didn’t find Ellen’s body until the next morning in a wooded area, a few hundred feet away from where David’s body was found @WBAY

— Megan Kernan (@megankernantv) July 20, 2021

RIP David and Ellen. So sorry you didn't get the chance to share your lives together and have a family. Your friends never forgot you.

 

[LadyL]

Judge James Morrison said the life sentences were appropriate due to the “depraved” and “unspeakable” nature of the crimes, Fox affiliate WLUK of Green Bay reported.

84-year-old man gets consecutive life sentences in 1976 double homicide

 

[MaryG12]

I was reading about this case - Vannieuwenhoven needs to die while in jail.

Grateful for genetic DNA, without it, this case probably never would have been solved.

RIP David and Ellen.

 

[dotr]

Aug 26, 2021

 

[CastlesBurning]

Marinette double homicide cold case, man gets life in prison

Cold case: Man gets two life sentences for 1976 double homicide

 

[JerseyGirl]

Oconto Co. man found guilty of killing local couple in 1976 dies

MARINETTE, Wis. (WFRV) – An Oconto County man who was found guilty of killing two Green Bay residents back in 1976 has died. He was 85 years old. Raymand Vannieuwenhoven was initially charged …

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[imstilla.grandma]

A man serving two life terms for killing a Wisconsin couple in a slaying that went unsolved for decades has died in prison, state corrections officials confirmed.

Raymand Vannieuwenhoven, 85, was convicted last year of fatally shooting 25-year-old David Schuldes and 24-year-old Ellen Matheys in a Marinette County park on July 9, 1976, in Silver Cliff, about 200 miles (320 kilometers) north of Milwaukee.

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Online court records updated Wednesday listed Vannieuwenhoven as deceased. The Wisconsin Department of Corrections said Vannieuwenhoven died June 17 at the Oshkosh Correctional Institution, WLUK-TV reported.

Vannieuwenhoven had denied involvement in the slayings and was appealing the conviction.

In March of 2020, a judge ruled that Vannieuwenhoven did not understand the proceedings and could not assist in his own defense. The judge ordered him to undergo inpatient treatment at Mendota Mental Health Institute in Madison. By that November the judge determined Vannieuwenhoven was able to understand the court proceedings and assist in his own defense and the case moved to trial.

Man convicted last year of killing 2 in 1976 dies in prison

OSHKOSH, Wis. (AP) — A man serving two life terms for killing a Wisconsin couple in a...

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