WI - Jacob Wetterling posters/video in home of deceased Vernon Seitz, also child 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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  • #61
mysteriew said:
You know I am really shocked at what the therapist has said about the drawings. I've been thinking about that all day. Did the therapist know about the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 collection? The 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is a crime. And 🤬🤬🤬🤬 collection has been connected to child molestations statistically. A drawing takes that one step further in that it actively involves the person in the 🤬🤬🤬🤬/child image so I would guess that would be one step further down the line, closer to actual involvement with a child. And what did he use for models for those pics he drew?

How many other persons does that therapist have who has an "innocent" 🤬🤬🤬🤬 collection that isn't getting reported?
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I am with you mysteriew: I have been researching this most of today. And I ABHOR these cases, imo, there is Nothing, and I mean Nothing, worse than a pedophile. Your questions are right on, I try to give the benefit of the doubt to the shrink, as in, perhaps she was misquoted, but the more I hear, the more I think:

There is witnesses that he was active in young boys missing cases dated back to 1989-1992 for sure. JW missing 89' , Dunhill, map found in home, 91.

There are multiple witnesses with that "nice guy but creepy" extending back 20 years.

A break in occurred in 2003 ( allegedly,his account, I have my doubts and think it may be related to an abduction.) and the front door still yields the sign about it, "infared camera".

I am very open to correction, but this guy has quantified his age group for young boys in every way. The chances of him NOT ever offending are non-existant based on every profile I could find.

Neighbor says house on Conway boarded because he was going to be moving back to Momma's house in Racine.. I am thinking the dirt piles and the fresh concrete are because something was moved in anticipation of that.
JMHO
 
  • #62
There is no way in Hell this guy was that dialed in to obsessing about young boys and didnt act on it.
It sounds like LE there decided out of the gate the guy is dead and we arent opening a can of worms.
Wow,just decide there is nothing to it and NOT find evidence to support your conclusion.What a novel approach to Law Enforcement.
Hello! The guy confessed to a Homicide!!!
Watch somebody here on Websleuths figure out who he killed in 1958 then spend months getting the cold shoulder from LE right up until they are forced to follow up then take credit for the breakthrough.
The FBI needs to take this case .
 
  • #63
UM.................http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-barbersconfessio,0,2950526.story

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Police also found bondage devices and paintings depicting child torture.
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Seitz was a longtime barber in suburban Milwaukee. Dr. Victoria Fetter said he told her he was abducted from the Racine zoo in 1958 or 1959. In eight or so hours, the abductors sexually abused him and made him fatally shoot a teenage boy by threatening to kill Seitz if he didn't follow orders, she said. He also watched his abductors kill another child before he was released.

He would have been him a preteen at the time. Fetter said his parents never reported the crime.

Seitz started seeing Fetter 11 years ago because he was having anxiety, nightmares and flashbacks about the abduction. His statements didn't change over the 11 years she knew him, she said.

"I was inclined to believe him because A, these things do happen and B, he was consistent," Fetter said.
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Seitz was found dead Dec. 15 in his Milwaukee home of hypertensive cardiovascular disease, according to a medical examiner's report. It indicated had been taking medications commonly used for depression and anxiety.

The report also quotes his sister-in-law Sue Seitz as saying he was abused as a child. She wouldn't comment Thursday when reached by phone.

Fetter described Seitz as a short man -- with hair implants and a big belly -- who was "too polite" and "too friendly." Seitz also claimed to be a psychic and routinely offered his services in cases of missing children, Fetter said.

In fact, Patty Wetterling, the mother of Jacob Wetterling, said she and her husband worked with Seitz a long time ago when he came to Minnesota as a psychic. She couldn't remember if he was helpful, but doesn't believe he was involved in her son's abduction.
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I think if you follow the previous link and click on the Link which has warning graphic content that its a search warrant and has said look for this and that etc etc

one thing it has listed is Cannibalism,

so i am unsure whether they actually found such a thing or it was just on the warrant.
 
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  • #67
The gun thing is bothering me too. Wasnt Jacob taken at gunpoint?
 
  • #68
Seitz has all the trophies of a serial killer. Whether he was a wannabe or not, it's obvious he let his obsession with young boys fester for decades, it'd be surprising if he didn't act on it at all.
 
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The search warrant also says they found a bone with no marrow. WTF!!!!
 
  • #71
missacorah said:
The gun thing is bothering me too. Wasnt Jacob taken at gunpoint?
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Yes. As I remember it, he and two other boys were riding their bikes home from a video store and a man approached them. He asked them their ages, then he chose Jacob. He told the other boys not to watch as he dragged Jacob into the woods. The man had a gun.
 
  • #72
Mr. E said:
Yes. As I remember it, he and two other boys were riding their bikes home from a video store and a man approached them. He asked them their ages, then he chose Jacob. He told the other boys not to watch as he dragged Jacob into the woods. The man had a gun.
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So does the dead man fit the description of the perp?
 
  • #73
JaneInOz said:
I think if you follow the previous link and click on the Link which has warning graphic content that its a search warrant and has said look for this and that etc etc

one thing it has listed is Cannibalism,

so i am unsure whether they actually found such a thing or it was just on the warrant.
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A book on canabalism was found
 
  • #74
believe09 said:
So does the dead man fit the description of the perp?
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The perp wore a mask, I was wondering if a mask was found. I put in a request to receive a copy of the seizure items, we'll see how far I get.

Early in Jacob's investigation, there were truck tracks, later LE thought they were that of a local and the perp walked to where he adbducted Jacob.

It is approx 7 hours away, but if he can drive for the search, why not for the abduction? There are several search maps in his residence, all seeming to date around that time, nothing current.
 
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I just read the search warrant and again I am shocked by what the police have said about having no reason to believe there has been a crime committed and I quote:
"We've exhausted all the leads in this case. This is not an active investigation," Milwaukee police spokeswoman Anne E. Schwartz said Tuesday.
"If we receive information from someone that gives us a concrete lead to follow, we certainly will, but at this point, there is no such information that has been shared with us."

According to the warrant they found:
"possible litagures"
"blood splatter or bloodstains or other biological identifiers'
"clothing which bears blood....'
'bondage devices in the basement'

And don't forget the freshly poured cement and elevated piles of dirt......oh yeah and the laminated picture of Wetterling along with a video.

They also found a map of St. Joseph, MN - the town where Jacob was abducted from.

I beginning to feel like OMG - has the mystery to what happened to Jacob beginning to unravel?

They also found several pairs of childrens size shoes. And who are the young nude boys in the photographs? Where did they come from?

This is just unbelievable. The only logical conclusion is LE is just saying this so they can work in relative peace.
 
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gaia227 said:
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According to the warrant they found:
"possible litagures"
"blood splatter or bloodstains or other biological identifiers'
"clothing which bears blood....'
'bondage devices in the basement'

I believe this was the prob cause warrant, not what they actually found in terms of seizure and inventory, not that it makes a diff really
They also found several pairs of childrens size shoes.
Did I read that wrong? I thought it did not say the word "pairs", which really freaked me out. To me, pairs he could prurchase without hurting anyone, individual shoes means one is missing, gulp, among other possibilities
And who are the young nude boys in the photographs? Where did they come from?

This is just unbelievable. The only logical conclusion is LE is just saying this so they can work in relative peace.
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I wish I thought that, the statement about it being a closed investigation, and then the assignment of a detective makes me think it is lip service

They need a pressr, I hope the parent of any missing children within those time frames and radius camp on their door step.
 
  • #79
gaia227 said:
I just read the search warrant and again I am shocked by what the police have said about having no reason to believe there has been a crime committed and I quote:
"We've exhausted all the leads in this case. This is not an active investigation," Milwaukee police spokeswoman Anne E. Schwartz said Tuesday.
"If we receive information from someone that gives us a concrete lead to follow, we certainly will, but at this point, there is no such information that has been shared with us."

According to the warrant they found:
"possible litagures"
"blood splatter or bloodstains or other biological identifiers'
"clothing which bears blood....'
'bondage devices in the basement'

And don't forget the freshly poured cement and elevated piles of dirt......oh yeah and the laminated picture of Wetterling along with a video.

They also found a map of St. Joseph, MN - the town where Jacob was abducted from.

I beginning to feel like OMG - has the mystery to what happened to Jacob beginning to unravel?

They also found several pairs of childrens size shoes. And who are the young nude boys in the photographs? Where did they come from?

This is just unbelievable. The only logical conclusion is LE is just saying this so they can work in relative peace.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the search warrant doesn't say what they found, does it? I think it states what they're supposed to be looking for?? I don't think they found blood or other fluids; they were just looking for it.
 
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