Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #35

[oviedo]

If only we knew more about what made him decide October and Jayme were his perfect storm - we know he had the house to keep a victim hidden and secure -he had a vehicle to take her there - what else made him decide the time was right ? I’m sure it will be something in his past- his online presence- or perhaps those that surround and influence him? IMO

 

[WanderingGypsy]

James could not have prevented this. He was a victim. He and his wife were murdered. Jayme was abducted and held against her will. James could not have done more to protect them. The only one to blame is the perpetrator. Period.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

His brother had one 4th degree sexual assault from when he was 17/18 and the accuser (perhaps via her parents) was 15. We'd have to know more before presuming that was something other than a consensual relationship, during high school, that angered the parents. The other stuff was a few marijuana charges and a speeding ticket.

We do know more. He drove 3 hours to have sex with a 15 year old. Someone posted an article about him.

 

[Trocroc9]

I have

We do know more. He drove 3 hours to have sex with a 15 year old. Someone posted an article about him.

So are you feeling that something must have happened to both of these young men that have made them feel that they are entitled to taking advantage of underage females ?

 

[katydid23]

BBM I think we let Jayme decide instead of making assumptions about her. We do not know that she is fragile or that she is averse to holding this creep accountable. This creep needs to be tried for his crimes. Where I live they do not pick and choose which crimes to try the perp for. They try them for all committed and do their best to put them away. The severity of the crimes is what keeps them in jail. If you don't nail it shut, sometimes things happen. Just saying, take no chances as there are always loopholes.

Of course we should let her decide. That is exactly my point. I just don't want her to be guilted into making all the private details public if she does not choose to.

And I think it is unfair to burden her with some 'social responsibility' to do so, at 13. If she wants to testify, that is great. But if she doesn't want to, she shouldn't be labeled in a negative light, as somehow it is indicating she feels shame. Maybe she just wants some privacy?

 

[Zephyranth]

Off topic, but rapid resolution therapy changed my life
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This thread is getting a little ugly. Thanks to those of you thinking of Jayme and her parents and not blaming them for this horrific situation. She's home tonight, probably cuddled up with her pup, in a nice warm bed and clean clothing, with a full belly, and hopefully a full heart.

The abduction of a child is inherently ugly

Unfortunately, by definition, working to understand cases of child abduction--in order to prevent or shorten future cases--by definition can seem ugly.

But it must be done.

Jayme matters 100%. Future victims matter, 100%. The balancing act is not easy.

 

[margarita25]

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Please see my post above about Ed Smart’s interview on HLN today—-he said one of the most important things (paraphrasing) is that Jayme know this was not her fault.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I have

So are you feeling that something must have happened to both of these young men that have made them feel that they are entitled to taking advantage of underage females ?

I have no idea. We currently know so little about either.

 

[cluciano63]

I have

So are you feeling that something must have happened to both of these young men that have made them feel that they are entitled to taking advantage of underage females ?

Jmo no. There are so many men who feel entitiled to sex from any women or girls they choose. I doubt anything particular happened to them except for the all too prevalent feelings and expectations that they should have what they want. An attitude that gets worse with each generation IN MY OPINION.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Anyone have a link handy for today's press conference? I think some people who missed it might want to watch it.

jmo

Here you go
Sheriff addresses public in second news conference after Jayme found alive

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread #36 for Jayme's case.

Be sure to read the opening posts, and specifically the notation about off topic posts resulting in thread bans.

This thread is now closed.