Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #35

[Lillymac]

Several news channels and the Credit Union that owns it refers to it as a cabin. A lot of people in the cities here have cabins in rural areas - near Lake Superior for hunting, fishing and getting away from the City. A lot of people have cabins worth almost as much as their main residence. I didn't mean to suggest it was a run down shack, it just wouldn't shock anyone if it was unattended for several months. There certainly would be no association or clean up crew making sure the lawn was cut.

I live in Texas, so I'm familiar with big cabins, but my point was that this was not a hunting cabin that has, from the beginning, been talked about so much. Just like the sheriff said in the presser it had electricity and water on and was a house.

 

[PommyMommy]

No shortage of programs to watch this evening.

NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt on Twitter
Jayme Closs kidnapping suspect Jake Patterson charged with murdering her parents. https://nbcnews.to/2ADkl7q @RonMott reports tonight on @NBCNightlyNews.

 

[Nudgee]

Jayme had her two guardian angels on both her shoulders every since the horrible night/early morning in Oct and she will have them on her shoulders for the rest of her life. When I think about the timing reported, the window of escape seems so incredibly narrow it freaks me out to think about it. @4:30 Jayme approached the dog walker, they went to the nearest home, 911 was called, @4:43 police were there with Jayme and by @4:54 the suspect was apprehended. WOW, that is close. As the pieces of the puzzle start to show the big picture, it will be interesting to hear just how this beautiful, brave girl manged the escape. Was it something she planned...was it a spur of the moment opportunity and decision to run..... the Sheriff said the suspect was apprehended in his car without incident and that suspect was out looking for Jayme. I'll be curious to hear more about that. Before I heard that today, with the narrow window of time, I was thinking the suspect was probably on his way back to the home/cabin and didn't know Jayme had even escaped. I pictured him being calm thinking he was just being pulled over and didn't want to act "suspicious".

Whatever or however... Thank G*d for this miracle and now her two beautiful guardians angels can finally RIP.

 

[Lillymac]

I believe sheriff said multiple cars at different locations.

I'm anxious to know what they are!

 

[PommyMommy]

janashortal on Twitter
The friends of #JaymeCloss tell me this was Jayme reuniting with her Aunt and her sweet pup about an hour ago.

 

[Rubiconbob]

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PICTURED: Jayme Closs, 13, is seen for the first time a day after her miraculous escape as her kidnapper, 21, is charged with holding her captive for 88 days and murdering her parents in their home

Jayme Closs, 13, is seen for the first time after her escape | Daily Mail Online

It is so great to see this photo.

Great post ...!! And stunning photo ..
If they would say that’s 4 months old I would understand ... but to have that be today is amazing... she looks healthy happy and there... not detached..
Amazing post !!!

 

[StarEyes]

Reminded me about the closed casket and then all painfully makes sense.

That’s what I initially thought. The fact that we weren’t given any idea to where on their bodies they were shot. Without ear protection in, its taken me an hour to get my hearing back after being in close proximity to a shotgun blast. She was awoken to sheer Hell.

 

[mickey2942]

Fitzgerald said, "Key Question Why and how he hid this for 88 days"

And did anyone else help him or have knowledge of this crime.

 

[mickey2942]

Once-Missing Wisconsin Teen Jayme Closs Is a 'Complete Badass,' Says Cousin: 'She Saved Herself'

The teen will live with her aunt, Jennifer Smith — Jayme’s mother’s sister and legal guardian — a close friend of Jayme Closs‘ aunt told PEOPLE on Friday.

No doubt, the very best place for her.

 

[MCDRAW]

What, exactly, is a "typical" abduction...? :thinking:

Snatch and run...no killing. Just a guess.

 

[MommaK43]

Shotgun...told y’all! Glad she’s alive and back home safe!

 

[Marah]

He may have seen them around and then got the job to scope them out even more? Why only one day though? Hmmm... Did they say when the employment was?

 

[WillenFan21]

Okay so I got caught up on the details from the second presser. The question I have had all day is how did this guy know her if he wasn't from there. We didn't get that answer in the first presser and we didn't get it in the second one however we did get the tidbit of info that he worked a day in a half at the company that Jayme's father and mother works at BUT they didn't have contact. This is where my theory comes in and this hasn't been mentioned at all yet.

If Mr and Mrs Closs had an office or like open area where they worked at this company(I don't think we don't know what their roles were at the company. He could have worked in the meet part of it and maybe she had a desk job of the sorts or maybe both did who knows) maybe there were pictures of Jayme on their desk, and JTP saw them, then did some investigating to find out who she was. I know its a long shot but it would explain a lot.

What do you guys think?

 

[Lillymac]

Wow. That smile! Outstanding.

Bless her .

 

[Frannie]

Missing Jayme Closs is found ALIVE in Douglas County, Wisconsin | Daily Mail Online

 

[chi123]

The sheriff said yesterday he was 100% sure the perp had help didn’t he, or am I misremembering? Kind of a blur at this point.

Surprised we didn’t hear anything more about that today. The comment about the cars at multiple locations is very interesting too, wonder if one is the SUV that was seen on camera the night of the murders

 

[Zephyranth]

IMO, when you go to someone’s home at the hour of night, as he did, with ill intentions, you know there’s a strong possibility you’re going to be met with resistance.

He used a element of surprise here, shooting the door in with a shotgun. It was a dramatic entry that I’m sure caused mass confusion.

I believe he intended to kill her parents. He didn’t know them but knew who they were, most likely from watching movements, schedules ahead of time. Stalking.

Yes, I'm far from presuming this was an attempt to simply stalk Jayme.

If you have a "long, careful plan" to kidnap someone, why create an unnecessary double homicide scene, leaving ballistics evidence, etc.?

Barron is a super-safe place, i.e. vulnerable. He could have kidnapped Jayme in so many alternate locations that would have NOT involved murder.

Shotgun to the front door sounds awfully rage-y to me. And what the heck strategy includes shooting blindly through the house door if he's trying to take Jayme alive? How did he know he wouldn't hit her?

 

[The Dude]

janashortal on Twitter
The friends of #JaymeCloss tell me this was Jayme reuniting with her Aunt and her sweet pup about an hour ago.

The Dude abides.

 

[StarEyes]

I'm sorry you have to endure that StarEyes.

Thank you. I didn’t get in to see an actual PTSD specialist until a few years ago. Plenty of therapy, but not a specialist in PTSD. I wish I’d done it years ago. I’m so happy Jayme will have access to the best mental health care. They’ll have her with a PTSD specialist, so she can begin to learn that she doesn’t have to let her PTSD rule her life. That’s a long time coming for her, but I’m comforted to know she’ll have access to it when she’s ready.

 

[ilovechili]

Read up on the Groene case in Idaho. Lots of similarities to this case IMO

One difference. This kid is "21" with no apparent means of income or anything else.