Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #35

[Deleted member 158085]

We were talking fancy home security these days. Never said lines were cut at the Closs home

Which means a security system may have helped LE identify him quickly if the Closs home had such a system.

 

[katydid23]

IDK. I would imagine their recitals are like most places, you see the families of the girls and a few people involved in working on the recital. Someone not related to any of the girls would stand out, especially a young man.

But you can't really tell who is related and who isn't. He is a young man. He could easily have a little sister or a cousin on stage. I don't think any one would notice or question if they saw him hanging around , watching a recital or waiting near by. JMO

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

Maybe the Army does it differently, or times have changed since I went through Marine boot camp several years ago.

Regardless, we still don’t know if he ever enlisted, or what branch if he did.

Thank you for your service @MassGuy . I always thank other vets for their service as being a vet myself I know how much I appreciate it.

 

[The Dude]

Geese in the yard...with guns of course.

No Geese. Turkeys.

A Ring is a good place to start, but if you have someone that's handy a multi-camera system can be had fairly cheap and can cover the entire property and home. Monitored systems can usually be purchased cheaply (sometimes even free), and you pay a monthly subscription that's less than your cable/internet/electric bill. TONS of info all over the internet.

 

[oviedo]

Is there a link that people had been going in and out during these 10-12weeks? Or in the past? Or is it vague?

There is a MSM story about this neighbor seeing people at the house it’s been posted multiple times upthread and very likely in the media links

 

[Nudgee]

My reference point is the Marines, and that’s a minimum of 4 years.

He just wreaks of “failure to adapt.” I just can’t believe he made it any length of time, let alone an entire enlistment (if he served).

ETA: I just googled it, and 2 years is apparently a possibility. To be clear, we have no evidence of military service.

If this guy is just now 21, is it even possible to have served an entire enlistment of 4 years (which most branches of our military require 3+ at a minimum, as far as I know). I thought 18 was the minimum age to enlist..

 

[Stunned]

Very true. I taught kindergarten for many years, and pretty much knew who the psychopath wannabes were by age 6.

Yup, I’m with 4 to 5 year olds, and you apsolutely do know! Lol, that’s why I never tell them my last name!

 

[Inthedetails]

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[crhedBngr]

@SeekingJana :

WOW. How horrifying! I'm so sorry this happened to you! And, I hope you are healing.

Thanks for sharing your experience and including @gitana1 's quote. You are correct--people really need to be aware of what's going on around them, including those with whom they have contact. And, we don't know how we'd react in certain situations.

And I agree--better mental health care, including screenings, is needed.

 

[TCIntriguedIN30]

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[BRRI]

We live in the middle of nowhere that is sparsely populated and do not let our children play out front unless we are out there. Idk, think we are a bit overprotective sometimes and then we hear about things like this.

Same. I feel so paranoid sometimes, but you just never can be too careful, sadly.

 

[MassGuy]

If this guy is just now 21, is it even possible to have served an entire enlistment of 4 years (which most branches of our military require 3+ at a minimum, as far as I know). I thought 18 was the minimum age to enlist..

Almost certainly not. He would have likely been kicked out.

We don’t know that he ever enlisted though.

 

[katydid23]

If he gets 140 yrs in prison with chance of parole after 120 yrs... Shouldn’t we let jayme decide?? I doubt if she was assulted 40’times she would want to relive or have world discuss...if he’s locked up and she’s happy... that works for me

I totally agree. Her current comfort level and her ability to cope with this transition back to her life is the most important thing, in my opinion. I don't care if he is charged with Sexual Assault or not, if it is going to be too much for her to deal with at this time. Double First Degree Murder is plenty to keep him locked up for life. JMO

 

[Quill]

If he gets 140 yrs in prison with chance of parole after 120 yrs... Shouldn’t we let jayme decide?? I doubt if she was assulted 40’times she would want to relive or have world discuss...if he’s locked up and she’s happy... that works for me

I think this is best to hold off on. Abigail H. heroically and unashamedly testified and made sure her abductor was held responsible for his crimes against her. She was only 14 when he took her. Any assumption that a female, young or otherwise, is too weak to want to nail her attacker to the wall is a faulty one.

 

[heartgoesout]

Any suggestions for protection if you do not want a gun in the house?

Nope, go to training and safety and get a gun.

 

[BradB]

It was just a question. Hard to imagine this guy pulled this off. From what I can tell, he isn’t too bright.

 

[oviedo]

Is there a link that people had been going in and out during these 10-12weeks? Or in the past? Or is it vague?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...closs-missing-wisconsin-girl-found/index.html
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It appears he concealed her from ... his friends'

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Aww that's right by my studio!

Been to that area too many times to count.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

First time poster but 88 day quiet follower who is overjoyed that JC is safe.

I shared the following on another forum and thought I’d provide my thoughts here too.

Sometimes we hear of anomalies in which electric or gas is administratively cancelled, but the provider may miss taking the necessary actions to restrict service.

In other cases, “customers” may take illegal actions to steal service. This is a known loss of revenue; many utilities are now working to identify offenders and take corrective action. Because many meters are still manually read (especially in rural WI) perhaps stolen electric / gas simply wasn’t noticed by the utility.

Lastly, during the winter months (Nov 1 - March) in WI, there is a moratorium and utility services that provide life -sustaining heat to certain demographics (including elederly and those who meet WI Public Service defines poverty thresholds) cannot be disconnected, even if bills go unpaid.

It looks like JTP’s residence may be serviced by East Central Energy, which is likely a small municipal / co-op utility, unlike larger generation/distribution/ transmission utilities that are well staffed and funded. I’d imagine ECE has older/less sophisticated distribution asset, metering, and monitoring technology.

Just my two cents from the cheap seats.

Co-op News | East Central Energy

Welcome to the group - glad to have you here with us.

 

[MassGuy]

It was just a question. Hard to imagine this guy pulled this off. From what I can tell, he isn’t too bright.

It doesn’t take a lot of intelligence to do what he did.

He brazenly attacked a home in the middle of the night, ultimately escaping by the skin of his teeth.

He apparently had a living situation already in place that allowed him and Jayme to remain undiscovered.

He was served well by an apparent lack of direct connection to his victims.

He’s not a criminal mastermind. Far from it.

This crime didn’t require one to be “bright.”

 

[Tippy Lynn]

That sick nutcase in Cleveland, that had 3 women and a child, shackled in his basement, for a decade, used to have family over for dinners at his home, and no one noticed. One friend did wonder why his basement door was padlocked though.

Yeah - that's not weird or nothing.