Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #37

[Tim Constas]

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All that being said, I think the off the cuff answer in the later press conference the other day that he kind of threw out and brushed off that there may have been another job in the area (other than Jennie-O for one day) he did not know for sure struck me as significant, way more than the facts that were given in a more solid manner. I felt it was thrown out there because they do have a clue but did real quickly took another question. I am thinking that from all of us watching several interviews, it is just my instinct and I am probably wrong . Tomorrow may be interesting and then again, we may find nothing out but a complaint will be filed.

Everything is speculation. It has been from the start.

But I agree. We have no idea he was a gamer or whether anything had anything to do with anything....

LE may have learned some more since he's been in custody. I'd like to think we all want him talking. I don't want to know waht he did to JC, I really hope nothing but I'm not real optimistic. I would like to know however, when did he first spot her and why her?

 

[Get off my Lawn!]

One thing to note is that at this time, there still have not been any sexual assault charges against JP.

Well I for one hope the loser was useless and impotent and little happened. Just hoping.

 

[Elley Mae]

For those of you who didn't catch WS'er @Moonsie's incredibly accurate profile of the perpetrator when it was first posted (less than two weeks after Jayme's abduction), here it is........

WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #14

- no drugs/alcohol...very fit (can kick in a door)
- loner, very little contact with anyone (why there are no people coming forward about a change in behavior etc)
- survivalist/minimalist (no problem living in the north woods)
- hunter (saw Jayme as his “prey,” planned the surprise nature of the attack)
- mapped this out over an extended time (stalked home, knew patterns, knew community, knew routines etc)
- worshipped Jayme from afar/no prior interaction with family (perhaps had initial chance sighting at school, running in park etc which grew into an obsession)
- technology averse (preferred cunning, wits, camouflage, hunting psychology etc instead of SM)
- unemployed/lots of time to study Closs home stealthily (may have stalked home unnoticed on multiple occasions)
- “bad” or no relationship with own parents (so no reservations whatsoever about killing parents of Jayme)
- not angry/focused and methodical

Had not paid attention to this case (life) have been reading since arrest.

This post is hair raising accuate.

Thank you Oakland CA for bringing it forward.

@Moonie unbelievable insight.

 

[aliensporebomb]

Well I stand corrected them - but why would his brother use Jake's profile pic for his profile then?

 

[aliensporebomb]

Although last nights 48 hours special on this indicates he didn't kick the door open - he SHOT it open with the shotgun. That's freaking brazen.

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo he is just a loser. He is 21, not a child. Old enough to vote, fight, work, marry, buy property, etc...we don’t need to make excuses for him.

 

[Warwick7]

This is incorrect. His brother worked at Subway, and was described as a “stoner.”

His brother also had a Facebook page that was up until Jake was identified.

Every article that I have read, has stated that Jake had no known social media presence.

Thank you! I thought it was his brother with the fb account.

 

[Get off my Lawn!]

Well I stand corrected them - but why would his brother use Jake's profile pic for his profile then?

Can you show pic?

 

[ilovechili]

LE may have learned some more since he's been in custody. I'd like to think we all want him talking. I don't want to know waht he did to JC, I really hope nothing but I'm not real optimistic. I would like to know however, when did he first spot her and why her?

Pretty much the same here. I doubt since whatever time he has had lawyers/public defenders they have learned anything if the attorneys are worth their salt. I hope he talked before that. I would like to know why and how for people to have some clue (if there can be any) of what to watch for or watch out for. I do not need details on what he did to her either, other than he deserves to rot for for every crime he committed.

 

[Julia966]

This is incorrect. His brother worked at Subway, and was described as a “stoner.”

He also had a Facebook page that was up until Jake was identified.

Every article that I have read, has stated that Jake had no known social media presence.

That is my understanding as well.

Well I stand corrected them - but why would his brother use Jake's profile pic for his profile then?

Jake and his brother look very much alike.

 

[Ibiz]

One thing to note is that at this time, there still have not been any sexual assault charges against JP.

Officially... he won't be charged with anything until tomorrow where a judge will read the charges and set bond. More charges can be filed and added as time goes on.

 

[ilovepierre]

This is incorrect. His brother worked at Subway, and was described as a “stoner.”

His brother also had a Facebook page that was up until Jake was identified.

Every article that I have read, has stated that Jake had no known social media presence.

LE has even confirmed that JTP had no (known) online presence.

I think what's happening here is everyone is getting the brothers mixed up.
Once news broke that Jayme had been found and JTP was arrested, news information about BOTH JTP and his brother was released and I think that's mixing a lot of people up.

IMO

 

[1987]

Can you show pic?

there is one out there. I seen it and didn't save it and would be against tos anyway. it was his first and middle name, no last name. some people already had thoughts about the brother is how the perps fb was first noticed. it was gone pretty fast.

 

[ilovepierre]

Thank you! I thought it was his brother with the fb account.

You're correct.
His brother has (or at least had) a FB account.

 

[Trino]

How long before the book? Dugger and Smart both had a book. Waiting/wanting to read, of course.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

I think Jayme seeing Jeanne Nutter and her dog after her escape is so amazing!

Jeanne Nutter says she hates the phrase “everything happens for a reason.” But a series of small events led her to be in the exactly right place, at the absolutely right time, to bump into Jayme Closs on the road outside her cabin in rural Gordon on Thursday afternoon.

Jayme Closs' rescuers speak: 'She said 'he killed my parents and took me''

 

[Elley Mae]

I think this is incorrect. jmo

You are correct.

She lives with her husband in Eau Claire, Wis., about 110 miles north from where she spotted Closs. The couple own a cabin in Gordon and had arrived Thursday to stay for a few days.

First person Jayme Closs found to help her had worked in child protective services

 

[1987]

I wonder how long she had been escaped before she seen someone to get help from. coming out of the woods to a person walking a dog...she could have been escaped for just a few min or hours.

 

[Warwick7]

After a school shooting in NM I cut out a magazine clipping. It said: "The U.S. National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime issued a report listing factors that could identify youths who might commit lethal violence in school. The following family factors were included: a turbulent parent-child relationship, parents who are unable to recognize problems in their children, a lack of closeness, parents who set few or no limits on a child’s conduct, and children who are extremely private, leading a double life and thus hiding a part of their life from their parents."

I believe this. Today many children are victims of family breakup. Others have parents who have little time for them. Thousands of young ones have grown up with inadequate moral and family guidance. Some experts feel that such an environment may result in children’s not developing the ability to bond well with others....and yes, making it easier for them to commit crimes against fellow humans, often without remorse. This is what I see in JP......

 

[The Dude]

You are correct.

She lives with her husband in Eau Claire, Wis., about 110 miles north from where she spotted Closs. The couple own a cabin in Gordon and had arrived Thursday to stay for a few days.

First person Jayme Closs found to help her had worked in child protective services

South.

110 miles north is Ely, MN