WI WI - Kelly Dwyer, 27, Milwaukee, 11 Oct 2013 - #1

[mke2013]

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BBM Not speaking for IHAVEACLUE of course, but I've come to know her and I've never known her to be sarcastic. I think sometimes the typed word doesn't always come out the way we intend. It's happened to me many times! I'm positive she was sincere in what she meant, MKE so please don't take it as a slight to you. I've found her to be one of the nicest posters here.

That was just my failed attempt at self deprecating humor. I took her comment as genuine and welcoming. My sincere apologies that the whole thing sounded unclear.

 

[Snoods]

Someone stated earlier he had a girlfriend and it wasn't Kelly. The parents said in an interview that they had never met him and she was on a dating site. Whatever they had, it wasn't serious. That doesn't mean strong feelings wouldn't be involved though.

So that kind of falls into the category that it was a relationship of convenience for the both of them. Either casual hook up or drugs. So he basically led a double, no a triple life. He kept his drug friends separate from his non-drug friends, the latter of who had no idea he was doing drugs. And if the CP charges are true, another life with that. That's a lot to juggle. And I agree, we can never assume to know what is going on in the minds of anyone.

I just hope Kelly is found soon, I can't imagine what her family is going through.

 

[Snoods]

That was just my failed attempt at self deprecating humor. I took her comment as genuine and welcoming. My sincere apologies that the whole thing sounded unclear.

Perfect example of how the typed word doesn't always come across as we meant! :floorlaugh: No worries, my apologies as well!

 

[Snoods]

Someone stated earlier he had a girlfriend and it wasn't Kelly. The parents said in an interview that they had never met him and she was on a dating site. Whatever they had, it wasn't serious. That doesn't mean strong feelings wouldn't be involved though.

I know what has been said in the news, what I was really asking of you as an insider is if you had any knowledge of them being together as a couple or if he had any other girlfriends. And again, thank you for answering my nosy questions.

 

[bwt42]

If he saw her leave the building at 9am then someone else likely would have seen her leave. Surely there are surveillance cameras on that building, neighboring buildings, traffic cameras, something.

I do find it strange that this man was fairly successful and has such a variety of deviant activities surrounding him. Child porn, cocaine, person of interest in a disappearance, that's quite a bit for a "stand up" corporate guy.

Has anyone located the man that Kelly met on OkCupid, or the man she was texting (if it was the same man)?

Jenna

There have been several unconfirmed reports about the OkCupid man from Kenosha & others from that site. It's been stated by a poster that the man from Kenosha has been "cleared". Another poster stated that she knew KD dated several people on this site. The posters were not quoting msm, rather what they had heard through friends of those involved. These reports may or may not be true.

 

[UncannyCanuck]

Did they ever go out in public together? How long had he known her? Did any of his friends know her? Did any of his friends know him to go out with any girls? It's kind of hard to keep a girlfriend secret if you have any kind of social life.

According to the detective on the drug case, they were going for drinks the night of her disappearance. As per one of my previous posts, Allium Restaurant described her as one of their favorite patrons. The restaurant is across the street from his apartment and quite a distance from hers. My guess is she went there with him often, i.e. do some lines (of cocaine) at his apartment then walk across the street for drinks (it is also a bar specializing in craft brews.)

She was therefore probably seen in public with him several times at Allium, which may support his story that they did drugs together several times per week.

 

[UncannyCanuck]

To answer your prior question..I almost always thought he was guarded/overly private. He didn't act strange with people though. He got along well with people for the most part. He did open up to me sometimes but he sometimes would lie if he wanted to avoid a topic or getting too close. He once referred to himself as having a damaged goods mentality. It made me feel sad.

His guardedness could be a clue to a possible motive for Kelly's murder. It makes me think that she discovered something (i.e. his cache of CP) that night he didn't want her to know or maybe in a euphoric state of being stoned on cocaine, he felt safe enough to confide his interest in CP to her and she reacted by threatening to go to police. Either way, he may have then wanted to silence her.

This would suggest he didn't plan her murder (if in fact he did it - I'm not prejudging) and so a first degree murder charge may not be in the cards.

The damaged goods reference is interesting as it is indicative of low self esteem which may be consistent with both his drug use and CP interest.

 

[Plumeria5]

His guardedness could be a clue to a possible motive for Kelly's murder. It makes me think that she discovered something (i.e. his cache of CP) that night he didn't want her to know or maybe in a euphoric state of being stoned on cocaine, he felt safe enough to confide his interest in CP to her and she reacted by threatening to go to police. Either way, he may have then wanted to silence her.

This would suggest he didn't plan her murder (if in fact he did it - I'm not prejudging) and so a first degree murder charge may not be in the cards.

The damaged goods reference is interesting as it is indicative of low self esteem which may be consistent with both his drug use and CP interest.

BBM You know when you wrote that who immediately came to mind? Joran van der Sloot!!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

It has come to my attention that I made a social blunder...

and I wish to apologize that my post sounded insensitive to MKE...

I truly did not intend to be sarcastic at all...

In fact... I feel for someone whose friend has been placed in the middle of a crime... In whatever capacity...

I hope I will be forgiven... And will think a little longer before I press "send" on my posts...

:seeya:

 

[bettiepageturner]

His guardedness could be a clue to a possible motive for Kelly's murder. It makes me think that she discovered something (i.e. his cache of CP) that night he didn't want her to know or maybe in a euphoric state of being stoned on cocaine, he felt safe enough to confide his interest in CP to her and she reacted by threatening to go to police. Either way, he may have then wanted to silence her.

This would suggest he didn't plan her murder (if in fact he did it - I'm not prejudging) and so a first degree murder charge may not be in the cards.

The damaged goods reference is interesting as it is indicative of low self esteem which may be consistent with both his drug use and CP interest.

It's hard for me to imagine anyone threatening somebody, to their face, with threat of telling the police, unless the matter at stake was something directly relevant to their own interests. The idea that KW would have acknowledged her discovery in a way that troubled him is hard for me to buy, especially since it seems their relationship (and I don't mean this judgmentally) had him as a sort of financier. Plus, no matter how drunk/high on coke you were, I think it'd be pretty clear that telling somebody you were onto their CP habit would mean they would immediately do everything in their power to erase any evidence of that fact. I suppose the laptop being at a friend's house could be indicative of that, though.

But I really doubt any sort of CP related discovery plays into this. Have there been cases where "silencing" was a factor in somebody's disappearance? If so, and if the perp had a few days head start, wouldn't said perp find it just as easy to conceal computer evidence as they did to murder somebody and dispose of their body?

Edit: I didn't see (re: silencing) that Plumeria5 mentioned JVDS (is that the proper initial?). That's a valid point, but a murder accusation would generally warrant much more attention and investigation than CP, IMHO. I can see KW going to LE with the tip and severing ties with him, but again, he'd have had a head start and as an IT guy, I don't think it'd be that hard for him to paint a "I broke up with her and she's trying to ruin my life" situation, with only circumstantial evidence remaining as a worst case scenario. I feel like somebody with his money/status is more likely to argue his way to a "Limewire ruined my computer forever, I have no idea what these things are, I was trying to music, oh god that's illegal right?" defense than, you know, committing an unforgivable crime to prevent that from happening. MOO and so forth.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

That was just my failed attempt at self deprecating humor. I took her comment as genuine and welcoming. My sincere apologies that the whole thing sounded unclear.

Thank you, MKE...

I am relieved that my social faux pas did not offend you...

I truly do not wish to offend you... Or any posters... At all...

:seeya:

 

[mke2013]

It has come to my attention that I made a social blunder...

and I wish to apologize that my post sounded insensitive to MKE...

I truly did not intend to be sarcastic at all...

In fact... I feel for someone whose friend has been placed in the middle of a crime... In whatever capacity...

I hope I will be forgiven... And will think a little longer before I press "send" on my posts...

:seeya:

No apology necessary! You've been nothing but kind.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

No apology necessary! You've been nothing but kind.

:tyou:

 

[KDub]

Something interesting I watched today about catching child predators online. Makes my stomach ache with the numbers they are reporting, I hope something like this helps catch more of these sickos.

http://www.upworthy.com/watch-what-this-make-believe-girl-means-to-1000-pedophiles?c=ufb1

 

[TodHackett]

I'm curious, if KZ is not a suspect (as I keep hearing), why are they searching landfills where his trash went? Is the lack of evidence leading to charges what separates a PoI from a suspect? Is it fair to assume the police are working on a bunch of other leads and telling KD's family and friends to keep quiet to the press about what they may know?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I'm curious, if KZ is not a suspect (as I keep hearing), why are they searching landfills where his trash went? Is the lack of evidence leading to charges what separates a PoI from a suspect? Is it fair to assume the police are working on a bunch of other leads and telling KD's family and friends to keep quiet to the press about what they may know?

Welcome, TodHackett...:seeya:

I will let someone with more expertise than I answer your question...

:seeya:

 

[secretagent]

So that kind of falls into the category that it was a relationship of convenience for the both of them. Either casual hook up or drugs. So he basically led a double, no a triple life. He kept his drug friends separate from his non-drug friends, the latter of who had no idea he was doing drugs. And if the CP charges are true, another life with that. That's a lot to juggle. And I agree, we can never assume to know what is going on in the minds of anyone.

I just hope Kelly is found soon, I can't imagine what her family is going through.

I guess the keeping separate concept is true but not in a nefarious manner I have different groups of friends. Work friends lifelong friends colleagues etc. not all of them are in loved in all activities of others. Some cross over but there are plenty of people in my
Life thst don't know everything about me, and not coz I'm hiding anything but just because of the space they occupy in my life


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[secretagent]

Admins how do I become a verified insider ?


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[mke2013]

http://fox6now.com/2013/11/06/kris-zocco-posts-bail-wednesday-released-from-milw-co-jail/

He posted bail and is out of jail.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Admins how do I become a verified insider ?


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